And I thought it's the end of Pixar! What was I saying?![]()
Pixar's Elemental Is Now The Biggest Original Hollywood Movie Since The Pandemic - SlashFilm
Pixar's Elemental seemed DOA when it premiered at the box office. Now, it's the biggest original Hollywood movie since the pandemic.www.slashfilm.com
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Wait until people learn that studios have spent decades claiming movies didn’t make money.By the silly rule of thumb it’s going to show a loss well under $100 million. But the rule of thumb is completely arbitrary. It includes marketing costs that are intended to boost profits on secondary platforms but doesn’t include those platforms. The ignorance on these boards about how the entertainment industry actually works is matched only by the complete unearned confidence in that ignorance.
Read a book! (This isn’t directed at you, Penguin).
Like The Lord of the Rings or My Big Fat Greek Wedding?Wait until people learn that studios have spent decades claiming movies didn’t make money.
But the rule of thumb is completely arbitrary. It includes marketing costs that are intended to boost profits on secondary platforms but doesn’t include those platforms.
I've heard the split for PVOD on Amazon and other services (may vary of course by service) is an average 80/20. So 80% would go to Disney, and the 20% to the provider.Besides DVD, BluRay, PVOD and Streaming, what are the secondary platforms a movie marketing campaign boosts profits for?
I ask because DVD and BluRay sales are collapsing into almost nothing now, and not only has Streaming (Disney+) not made Disney any money, but Disney+ continues to lose at least a half a Billion dollars every fiscal year since it launched in 2019.
PVOD is probably a better indicator of profit, but does Disney do big business with PVOD?
If I rent Lightyear tonight on Amazon Prime for $3.99, how much money does Disney get from that after they pay Amazon for all the energy and computing power and what not to beam it to my TV for one night? Where are those profits called out? Anyone know?
That would explain why studios jump at getting their movies to PVOD as quickly as they can for 19.99 even why movies are still in theatersI've heard the split for PVOD on Amazon and other services (may vary of course by service) is an average 80/20. So 80% would go to Disney, and the 20% to the provider.
Its why the post-theatrical market is so lucrative for studios as they get a higher take than the 50/50 average during the theatrical run.
This week, Elemental crossed $400 million at the global box office, a feat that seemed almost impossible after its disastrous opening. What once seemed like a film that was destined to lose a lot of money, just as Lightyear did in 2022, has turned profitable for Pixar.
Besides DVD, BluRay, PVOD and Streaming, what are the secondary platforms a movie marketing campaign boosts profits for?
I ask because DVD and BluRay sales are collapsing into almost nothing now, and not only has Streaming (Disney+) not made Disney any money, but Disney+ continues to lose at least a half a Billion dollars every fiscal year since it launched in 2019.
PVOD is probably a better indicator of profit, but does Disney do big business with PVOD?
If I rent Lightyear tonight on Amazon Prime for $3.99, how much money does Disney get from that after they pay Amazon for all the energy and computing power and what not to beam it to my TV for one night? Where are those profits called out? Anyone know?
"Elemental has also done well overseas, including turning into a juggernaut in South Korea, which leads all markets with $44.8 million so far. Per Disney, admissions are expected to hit 6 million on Thursday — meaning that tickets have been sold for one out of every eight people in that country. Other milestones achieved in South Korea include: No. 3 animated film of all time behind Walt Disney Animation’s two Frozen movies; No. 2 release of 2023 among all films behind local title Round Up; and No. 5 Hollywood release in the pandemic era after Avatar: The Way of Water, Spider-Man: No Way Home and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
Elemental opens in its final major market, Japan, on Friday."
Barbie was also animated movies.
So, Barbie is the thing this board hates the most: A live-action remake!!!
Here you are
I’m not sure where $60M in “home entertainment” comes from, unless it was miraculously pulling in a bunch of digital sales in the week or two it was on those platforms before being shuttled off to D+So Lightyear lost them $106 Million after Disney paid itself $95 Million to put Lightyear on Disney+???
That seems to get at the core of the problem I see. Disney loses money on the film at the box office, then takes monthly subscription revenue from Disney+ subscribers to pay itself from one company division to another to lessen the net loss on the film that lost money at the box office.
Which is likely a big reason why Disney+ keeps losing a Billion or more dollars every fiscal year, because it uses subscriber revenues to pay off failing movie divisions in the same company. That's just not sustainable, in my opinion. And it still means the movie didn't earn a profit at the box office.
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