Elemental (Pixar - June 2023)

[MisterPenguin]

It's obvious that for every animated feature made from here on out a certain group will make the case that the animation studios should be merged... even though that's not the topic of the thread for a particular movie.

So, here's the thread for that conversation...

Should Disney Merge Their Animation Studios?

Well?

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[Basil of Baker Street]

It goes back to what I asked in TLM thread but why are development costs so stupidly high for every movie that Disney makes.

I’m sorry but should an animated film like Turning red really cost over $150 million to make?

Can Disney not make their animated films especially like there theme park rides over such a long period to reduce costs?

Just like I wonder why it takes Disney twice as much money and 3 times as long to build a new attraction at WDW.

 

[Phroobar]

Totally agree and it seems a more detailed movie like you say doesn’t pay off for them.

While I understand Disney probably need to do the recent layoffs in the TV and movie division, to save money and remove content from Disney+ to save almost $2 billion in licensing, perhaps they should bring down the development costs for these movies in the first place

Are Disney/Pixar movies any more detailed than the competition? Spiderman sure looks a lot more artistically creative than anything from Pixar. It even has a complex plotline. The upcoming Teen Mutant Ninja Turtles movie also looks more creative. Pixar has had three movies with the same character look. Luca, Turning Red and upcoming Elio. Lightyear looked a little different but not artistically creative. Lightyear didn't have the bug eyes and big teeth CalArts look that the other three movies did. Even Super Mario Bros looked exactly what we expected the movie to look like and still have some great artistic license.

 

[Disstevefan1]

perhaps they should bring down the development costs for these movies in the first place

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This bad ?

That can’t be right, they expect this to do even worse than Lightyear?

What is going on with Pixar?

 

[Trauma]

That can’t be right, they expect this to do even worse than Lightyear?

What is going on with Pixar?

I don’t know but it’s time to either shut it down or bring back Lasseter.

 

[BuddyThomas]

It seems the movies threads have become the venue of choice for trolls intent on airing their grievances and casting aspersions. Discussion of the films themselves has become next to impossible in the face of so much relentless derailment.

I honestly don’t know what is going on here. If these people hate all things Disney, what are they doing here???

 

[LittleBuford]

I honestly don’t know what is going on here. If these people hate all things Disney, what are they doing here???

There is plenty of negativity to be found elsewhere in the forum, but I agree that something particularly strange and distasteful is going on here in the movie threads. It's the sheer relentlessness of the trolling that really strikes me. Post after post after post gloating about, or hoping for, the "failure" of whatever film is the topic of the thread (at the expense of any actual discussion about that film). It's truly bizarre.

 

[TP2000]

Spider verse cost $100 million, Super Mario Bros cost $100 million, Minions cost $85 million… I appreciate that Disney goes beyond the other studios to give a more detailed film but I still don’t understand why their animated films cost 2 to 3 times more than the other studios similar offerings.

Probably catering.

And comped Tesla charging on the Burbank lot.

 

[Tha Realest]

I honestly don’t know what is going on here. If these people hate all things Disney, what are they doing here???

Hoping, desperately, that Disney corrects its trajectory.

If you want future Disney films, you should root for them to be profitable.

 

[Phroobar]

Hoping, desperately, that Disney corrects its trajectory.

If you want future Disney films, you should root for them to be profitable.

We won't see anything good for the next four years. It takes time to course correct. We shouldn't root for crap because crap is what you will continue to get. They need a large course correction. What are they going to do? Not make movies?

Every other company is making some incredible stuff except Disney.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I honestly think a hand drawn movie would be a big hit right now, especially if it was a Princess movie, CG took over because it was new and wowed everyone, now we’re used to it, they should mix it up and go back to the old school.

 

[Disney Irish]

I honestly think a hand drawn movie would be a big hit right now, especially if it was a Princess movie, CG took over because it was new and wowed everyone, now we’re used to it, they should mix it up and go back to the old school.

Wish should then do well.

 

[Stripes]

Elemental looks like a movie I’d want to see. Cautiously optimistic.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Just got back from a week long vacay. Saw this at LAX and was amused... If you have the same poster 50 times in a row, people will want to see it right?

 

[Communicora]

Spider verse cost $100 million, Super Mario Bros cost $100 million, Minions cost $85 million… I appreciate that Disney goes beyond the other studios to give a more detailed film but I still don’t understand why their animated films cost 2 to 3 times more than the other studios similar offerings.

This article might help you understand where some of the money goes. Given Pixar's history, it makes sense that there is a lot of focus on building new tools and techniques. I know they sell RenderMan, perhaps they will eventually sell other tools like Presto.

 

[Phroobar]

I honestly think a hand drawn movie would be a big hit right now, especially if it was a Princess movie, CG took over because it was new and wowed everyone, now we’re used to it, they should mix it up and go back to the old school.

Maybe Disney should use CG to be more artistic instead of the same CalArts character designs every time.

 

[Trauma]

I’m being serious here why is the gonna flop so hard ?

Has there been any reason given ?

Is it just not good ?

 

[doctornick]

Elemental looks like a movie I’d want to see. Cautiously optimistic.

Same with me. I very much do not want it to fail - though I don't have much optimism at all - as this looks like exactly what we should be getting from Pixar and Disney in general. I actually feel like this moving doing poorly will send absolutely the wrong message to the decision makers at Disney.

 

[Tha Realest]

I’m being serious here why is the gonna flop so hard ?

Has there been any reason given ?

Is it just not good ?

I think it’s a crowded release calendar + finite marketing dollars and oxygen/platforms