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Eisner vs Iger how do they match up
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Why doesn't,t Iger care about the parks? Is it that he just sees it as as just one part of a mega empire. Is it just business nothing personal?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
"Good for the parks-lovers" and "good for the shareholders" would be exactly the same of people put their money where their mouth is and actually stopped buying what they consider an inferior product instead of just complaining about it on the internet.
What the heck were DCA, Hong Kong, Shanghai, the Dream, the Fantsasy, and Next Gen besides MAJOR Parks & Resorts investments?
No, the only thing people care about is "new E-tickets at WDW," but new E-tickets at WDW is extremely far down the overall Parks and Resorts "needs" list. Fleet expansion, infrastructure upgrades, fixing DCA, and breaking into China are much more important than Star Wars Land.
And don't forget about that little disagreement between Roy, Jr. and Eisner....... Not that I'm saying Roy was an outstanding visionary like his uncle (I always felt his raison d'etre was "I'm Walt's nephew"), but what became a very public feud between a prominent (in name only, not stock position) member of the Disney board and the CEO isn't healthy for any corporation.
And wasn't Iger Michael's person choice to succeed him?
And wasn't Iger Michael's person choice to succeed him?
bjlc57
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there is two versions of Michael Eisner.. before and after.. before Frank Wells Died.. and after.. before. .Michael Eisner was the best thing since Walt himself.. the BEST THING. .he planned , he expanded , he went for it.. he had imagination.. and then April 4th , 1994.. Frank Wells is killed in helicopter skiing accident.. and that was the and of the first and GOOD Michael Eisner.. Eisner then refused to name Jefferey Katzenberg to succeed him as president. Bringing in Ovitz instead. and since that time the ANTI-WALTS have controlled the company. The beancounters instead of the dreamers.. that fatal day has changed the direction of all the parks.. may be to the point of failure.
bjlc57
Well-Known Member
Great background story.
DisneyManOne
Well-Known Member
Honestly, I think they're both the same.
Let's see--they started off fine; bringing good things to the company. But then, that really successful animated movie came out (Lion King for Eisner and Frozen for Iger) and they both started getting the dollar signs in their eyes. And near the end of their run as CEO, they both started churning out things that no one needed or wanted for the sake of monetary gain (those crappy direct-to-video sequels for Eisner and those unneeded live-action remakes for Iger).
With all these statistics, I think they're both pretty neutral. But, if Disney ever announces that they're gonna be re-making one of the classics (like Snow White or Pinocchio or Mary Poppins or Bambi), then that's living proof Iger is worse than Eisner, IMHO.
Let's see--they started off fine; bringing good things to the company. But then, that really successful animated movie came out (Lion King for Eisner and Frozen for Iger) and they both started getting the dollar signs in their eyes. And near the end of their run as CEO, they both started churning out things that no one needed or wanted for the sake of monetary gain (those crappy direct-to-video sequels for Eisner and those unneeded live-action remakes for Iger).
With all these statistics, I think they're both pretty neutral. But, if Disney ever announces that they're gonna be re-making one of the classics (like Snow White or Pinocchio or Mary Poppins or Bambi), then that's living proof Iger is worse than Eisner, IMHO.
Goofnut1980
Well-Known Member
We need another Disney Decade!
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
The whole mess was very detailed in the book.... Disney Wars! It leaves one slack jawed.
Great article. However, MY b-school had a required course in organizational behavior. From which I learned most corporations have interpersonal dynamics sooo similar to families. Never fails to amaze me how some individuals will nearly destroy a corporation in feeding their enormous egos. And never wonder "why?"
Ego is the great destroyer of men and organizations.
Matt_Black
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DisneyManOne
Well-Known Member
THREAD BUMP
Given recent rumors surrounding an attraction recently, I had to bring this back, because this rumor may contribute heavily to the "Eisner vs Iger" debate.
Namely, this rumor regards the possible closure of Walt Disney: One Man's Dream. Now, if this closes, this, IMO, would be a step towards Iger being worse than Eisner.
I mean, think about it--at least Eisner respected Walt Disney and his legacy! Without Eisner, we wouldn't have the famed "100 Years of Magic" celebration and opened the exhibit to honor him.
Meanwhile, Iger is, IMO, pretty much trying to remove Walt from the public eye. Want proof? Here's the Walt Disney Pictures logo when Iger became CEO...
And here's the logo as it looks today...
Not only that, every single DVD release just has "Disney". No "Walt Disney's" or "Walt Disney Pictures Presents".
And now, under Iger's watch, One Man's Dream may be closing!
So, I guess this another step in Eisner being better than Iger. While Eisner may have made some terrible money-grubbing choices at the tail end of his CEO career, at least he actually cared about Walt. That's more than I can say about Iger.
Okay, rant over.
Given recent rumors surrounding an attraction recently, I had to bring this back, because this rumor may contribute heavily to the "Eisner vs Iger" debate.
Namely, this rumor regards the possible closure of Walt Disney: One Man's Dream. Now, if this closes, this, IMO, would be a step towards Iger being worse than Eisner.
I mean, think about it--at least Eisner respected Walt Disney and his legacy! Without Eisner, we wouldn't have the famed "100 Years of Magic" celebration and opened the exhibit to honor him.
Meanwhile, Iger is, IMO, pretty much trying to remove Walt from the public eye. Want proof? Here's the Walt Disney Pictures logo when Iger became CEO...
And now, under Iger's watch, One Man's Dream may be closing!
So, I guess this another step in Eisner being better than Iger. While Eisner may have made some terrible money-grubbing choices at the tail end of his CEO career, at least he actually cared about Walt. That's more than I can say about Iger.
Okay, rant over.
THREAD BUMP
Given recent rumors surrounding an attraction recently, I had to bring this back, because this rumor may contribute heavily to the "Eisner vs Iger" debate.
Namely, this rumor regards the possible closure of Walt Disney: One Man's Dream. Now, if this closes, this, IMO, would be a step towards Iger being worse than Eisner.
I mean, think about it--at least Eisner respected Walt Disney and his legacy! Without Eisner, we wouldn't have the famed "100 Years of Magic" celebration and opened the exhibit to honor him.
Meanwhile, Iger is, IMO, pretty much trying to remove Walt from the public eye. Want proof? Here's the Walt Disney Pictures logo when Iger became CEO...
And here's the logo as it looks today...
Not only that, every single DVD release just has "Disney". No "Walt Disney's" or "Walt Disney Pictures Presents".
And now, under Iger's watch, One Man's Dream may be closing!
So, I guess this another step in Eisner being better than Iger. While Eisner may have made some terrible money-grubbing choices at the tail end of his CEO career, at least he actually cared about Walt. That's more than I can say about Iger.
Okay, rant over.
that was pretty slick I did not notice the change. Is there a board that approves this stuff or they just hand picked puppets?
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sounds like a man with a huge ego.
Sonconato
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I have heard Eisner was bad the second half of his career. It really is no question who doesn't give a d*** about Walt Disney's history or Walt Disney World, but with Iger getting rid of One Man's Dream he's just plain money driven. On another thread about saving One Man's Dream, the only suggestions are going to San Francisco to see any of Walt Disney's history. Sounds like another nail in the coffin of seeing Walt Disney's past at WDW.
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Wasn't it Iger who built Buena Vista Street, which an entire land devoted to Walt Disney and his arrival to California.
interesting where is Buena Vista Street? is it in WDW?