Eisner vs Iger how do they match up

POLY LOVER

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i think I would say Isner for shear personality and understanding of Disney past and future,
I don,t think he would have Disney in stagnant mode. I think he was more aggressive and would not have Disney in reactive mode.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
i think I would say Isner for shear personality and understanding of Disney past and future,
I don,t think he would have Disney in stagnant mode. I think he was more aggressive and would not have Disney in reactive mode.
Eisner was formulaic and reactive after the death of Wells and the embarrassment that followed, personal embarrassment for Eisner, as well as the internal turmoil of Katzenburg leaving

The first half of Eisners tenure was amazing, but the second half and the formulaic missteps overshadowed his former glories.
 
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POLY LOVER

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Eisner did a lot for the parks, but little for the company.
Iger did a lot for the company, but little for the parks.

And they both put an end to hand-drawn animation.

If Iger were only the reverse. Is it more important to serve the parks and walts dream or some investors that just want more and more profits. They can never be satisfied they really don,t care about the parks as much as the money, They will hang him as soon as he misses expectations a few quarters in a row.
 

George

Liker of Things
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I think Eisner was taller! Still might be, as far as that goes.

Correct, which gives him a huge advantage in the paint. However, Iger's quicks and ball handling have the potential to create a lot of foul problems for Eisner. Really, in a match up like this, it partly depends on how many points they are playing to. The big man has the advantage if they are playing to less than say, 9 or 11 since he can just body up the smaller guy and make lots of layups (make 'em, take 'em is also advantageous for the big man under this scenario). However, the big guy will tire more quickly and you can have a comeback by the smaller player (especially if he can shoot and based on the video evidence, Iger's mid-range jumper is OK) especially if fouls come into play. I guess I'd need to know the rules before making a pick. Once the rules are up, I'll set the line and take bets.
 
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mousehockey37

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If Iger were only the reverse. Is it more important to serve the parks and walts dream or some investors that just want more and more profits. They can never be satisfied they really don,t care about the parks as much as the money, They will hang him as soon as he misses expectations a few quarters in a row.

There has to be a balance of both. If done correctly, customers will get better parks and more people will go, filling the rooms which would hopefully drive the stock up, making investors more money.

The cutbacks at Disney aren't helping the experiences for guests, but they look good on paper. There are people who don't like musical acts or performers, but there are people that do. There are people that like having a wide variety of park specific merchandise to buy. Right now, most of the stuff in the parks can be bought at DTD without ever stepping foot in a park. That cut to the specific merchandise and bringing in just stock stuff, isn't necessarily hurting sales, but it can't be helping either.

I could go on, but basically it's all in the mentality and background of each CEO. If one lives up to Walt's ideals and says we're gonna build new rides, fix the older ones and make this a place where there is "magic", then that's what they'll make it. If another comes in as a stock broker running the place like Scrooge McDuck and all they see is $$$ instead of people, then that's the result you're going to see.
 

1023

Provocateur, Rancanteur, Plaisanter, du Jour
Correct, which gives him a huge advantage in the paint. However, Iger's quicks and ball handling have the potential to create a lot of foul problems for Eisner. Really, in a match up like this, it partly depends on how many points they are playing too. The big man has the advantage if they are playing to less than say, 9 or 11 since he can just body up the smaller guy and make lots of layups (make 'em, take 'em is also advantageous for the big man under this scenario). However. the big guy will tire more quickly and you can have a comeback by the smaller player (especially if he can shoot and based on the video evidence, Iger's mid-range jumper is OK) especially if fouls come into play. I guess I'd need to know the rules before making a pick. Once the rules are up, I'll set the line and take bets.

Not to mention the reach advantage.... He can set Uncle Bob up with a few jabs, feint over the top, and land a wicked uppercut.... Reach always beats Glass Joe...

*1023*
 

POLY LOVER

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Any ceo can look good on paper just by cutting jobs and benefits, that's easy it takes no skill to lay off people and outsource your products and assets. Look at ge and the jack welch idea of doing exactly that and short term looked great long term the company now suffers.

If there are any Disney family members left they need to set the tone for the ceo,s or Disney will be just a memory. I watched saving mr. Banks last night and it's a great movie that captures Disney.
 
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mousehockey37

Well-Known Member
Any ceo can look good on paper just by cutting jobs and benefits, that's easy it takes no skill to lay off people and outsource your products and asset. Look at ge and the jack welch idea of doing exactly that and short term looked great long term the company now suffers.

If there are any Disney family members left they need to set the tone for the ceo,s or Disney will be just a memory. I watched saving mr. Banks last night and it's a great movie that captures Disney.

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JIMINYCR

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They both play/played the game ruthlessly and neither is all that different from the other. Both are/were about personal enrichment and image. Both immediately upon getting the positions set about getting all they could for personal gain out of the Disney name and what Disney had produced. Neither had Disney's interest/well being first and foremost. As CEO's they had to first care for/ enrich stockholders and thereby enrich themselves in the process. Iger looks better in a suit and presents himself in a milder tone to the media than Eisner did. The after Bio's of Iger will be kinder.
 

Tom

Beta Return
Eisner was formulaic and reactive after the death of Wells and the embarrassment that followed, personal embarrassment for Eisner, as well as the internal turmoil of Katzenburg leaving

The first half of Eisners tenure was amazing, but the second half and the formulaic missteps overshadowed his former glories.

I second this.

For the park-lovers, the first half of Eisner's tenure was pure giddiness. Then a switch was flipped and he went bonkers.

Iger has never done anything to actually please long time park fans, but he has pleased the pants off the stockholders.

And, unfortunately for us park-lovers, Disney is a for-profit business, so the stockholders win. Thus, Iger wins, when comparing them 1:1 as CEOs of a publicly traded corporation.

Eisner wins if you are comparing CEOs who cared the slightest about the theme park experience.
 


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