News Early Theme Park Entry and Extended Evening Hours coming for resort guests

dreday3

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Splash and BTMRR aren't open for early entry, right? I think it's just Tomorrowland and Fantasyland.

Yes but if you time it right, you can get there before everyone else at regular opening makes it back to the area.

At least we were able to in the past. After riding some fantasyland rides, we'd wait at rope around Liberty square maybe? It's been so long.
 

aliceismad

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It definitely won't be evenly spread among all four parks, though. The majority (or at least plurality) are going to be at the MK every day, especially with Rise and Rat requiring a boarding group. There's little reason for anyone to go to EPCOT early right now.
I wonder if the value or lack of value for the early entry might depend on how much individual attraction LL costs.
 

UNCgolf

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Yep. And hopping on 7DMT and then getting into the Space Mtn. queue before the 9 am crowd arrives is a significant benefit.

If that's possible. As I said, if there are suddenly 5000 people all showing up for early entry, only a small percentage of people will actually be able to just hop on 7DMT. The ride could have a 60 minute wait a couple of minutes in to the time window.

I have no idea if that will happen, though. I'm interested to see how it goes -- it could be exactly the same as it was in the past, or it could see a huge increase in the number of people who use it through a Disney marketing push. Even if it becomes super busy you'll still be better off than off-site guests who have to wait, of course, because the lines will that much longer for them.
 
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Wendy Pleakley

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I have to disagree that it's nothing, especially now with Genie + entering the picture.

You can arrive 30 minute early and jump in a line to either not have to pay for it (obvious Rat and ROTR not included) later, or jump in lines and be able to ride without a long wait and again later with lighting lane if you so choose.

And since it's all parks, every day, there won't be as many people as past early entry where it was only one park.

We will see of course, but I think it will end up being an advantage to those who participate.

( or for people like me, I can get in line before the masses to grab my Refresher at Starbucks 😂 )

To add to this, for people who avoided Early Magic Hours this is a much better perk. It's something where before many people saw it as nothing.

It wasn't uncommon to avoid early entry because it drew guests to one specific park, meaning overall crowds would be higher and one might be inclined to park hop to go somewhere quieter later. Either way, the extra hour was offset by longer lines in general and transportation time.

Now, there's no strategic need to avoid early entry. It's something those of us who didn't use in the past, will now take advantage of.
 

ToTBellHop

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If that's possible. As I said, if there are suddenly 5000 people all showing up for early entry, only a small percentage of people will actually be able to just hop on 7DMT. The ride could have a 60 minute wait a couple of minutes in to the time window.

I have no idea if that will happen, though. I'm interested to see how it goes -- it could be exactly the same as it was in the past, or it could see a huge increase in the number of people who use it through a Disney marketing push. Even if it becomes super busy you'll still be better off than off-site guests who have to wait, of course, because the lines will that much longer for them.
It’s the same rides as they used to open for MEMH. It is exceedingly unlikely that there will be more guests at any of the 7 early entry mornings than there was during the 1 MEMH. Given the choice of 7 days to make the MK park reservation with no perceived benefit to any single day (it was widely understood that Thursday was MEMH day at MK and people planned for this) people will naturally disperse. We seem hell-bent on making this out to be a bad thing. I’m not paying any more for my hotel or tickets than I expected and yet, when compared to September, I’ll get more time in the parks next month, two new fireworks shows, and a new ride. If I were so jaded as to be complaining in advance about that, I would just go somewhere else.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Splash and BTMRR aren't open for early entry, right? I think it's just Tomorrowland and Fantasyland.
Yep, forgot that part.🙄
Yes but if you time it right, you can get there before everyone else at regular opening makes it back to the area.

At least we were able to in the past. After riding some fantasyland rides, we'd wait at rope around Liberty square maybe? It's been so long.
Yes, that would be move I’d make.

I might head to PP and then into the 7dmt line and then either head for Frontierland or around to the Speedway and Buzz, whilst others head for Space Mtn (which we don’t do).
 

UNCgolf

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It’s the same rides as they used to open for MEMH. It is exceedingly unlikely that there will be more guests at any of the 7 early entry mornings than there was during the 1 MEMH. Given the choice of 7 days to make the MK park reservation with no perceived benefit to any single day (it was widely understood that Thursday was MEMH day at MK and people planned for this) people will naturally disperse. We seem hell-bent on making this out to be a bad thing. I’m not paying any more for my hotel or tickets than I expected and yet, when compared to September, I’ll get more time in the parks next month, two new fireworks shows, and a new ride. If I were so jaded as to be complaining in advance about that, I would just go somewhere else.

I disagree about it being exceedingly unlikely, simply because this is now the benefit that Disney is pushing. If you stay on-site, this is what you get. I will be shocked if Disney isn't heavily pushing it to all on-site guests and in all their advertising far more than they ever did with the old EMH as a selling point to stay at a Disney resort -- the vast majority of on-site guests never used the old EMH. If they get a dramatic increase in the number of people using it, it could easily be much busier than old EMH, especially since it's only a 30 minute window.

I'm not sure why you're assuming this is a complaint or an assumption that it's going to be bad, though -- I've never once said that. All I'm doing is speculating about what's possible -- and it absolutely is possible that what I'm suggesting will happen. That doesn't mean it will happen, as I've said multiple times. It's also absolutely possible it could end up being good for the majority of guests. This is why I'm interested to see what happens once it's been operating for a couple of months.

If 25,000 people suddenly start using it on a daily basis, then it's going to be a disaster with a 30 minute window even if those people were equally spread out among all four parks. I don't think that many people actually will and it will probably be fine, but we don't know that yet.
 

ToTBellHop

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I disagree about it being exceedingly unlikely, simply because this is now the benefit that Disney is pushing. If you stay on-site, this is what you get. I will be shocked if Disney isn't heavily pushing it to all on-site guests and in all their advertising far more than they ever did with the old EMH as a selling point to stay at a Disney resort -- the vast majority of on-site guests never used the old EMH. If they get a dramatic increase in the number of people using it, it could easily be much busier than old EMH, especially since it's only a 30 minute window.

I'm not sure why you're assuming this is a complaint or an assumption that it's going to be bad, though -- I've never once said that. All I'm doing is speculating about what's possible -- and it absolutely is possible that what I'm suggesting will happen. That doesn't mean it will happen, as I've said multiple times. It's also absolutely possible it could end up being good for the majority of guests. This is why I'm interested to see what happens once it's been operating for a couple of months.

If 25,000 people suddenly start using it on a daily basis, then it's going to be a disaster with a 30 minute window even if those people were equally spread out among all four parks. I don't think that many people actually will and it will probably be fine, but we don't know that yet.
People don’t change behaviors like that. The people who will be there now were always there for park open. The majority who roll into the park an hour later will continue to do that. People won’t suddenly get their lives together and become punctual just because WDW turned 50, and the same majority who missed out on this benefit of their All Star Movies stay will continue to do so.

If the pandemic has taught us anything, it is that MOST people will book Disney Resorts whether or not there are perks. Perks just fill the last remaining rooms, especially at deluxes.

If it somehow manages to be the cluster you suggest, they’ll just open earlier. Nothing new there. I literally went Christmas Week 2 years ago. I was in some parks at 7 am for daily MEMH because they extended due to crowds. It still wasn‘t crowded until 10 am (after that time, it was crowded). Old habits die hard.
 

UNCgolf

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People don’t change behaviors like that. The people who will be there now were always there for park open. The majority who roll into the park an hour later will continue to do that. People won’t suddenly get their lives together and become punctual just because WDW turned 50, and the same majority who missed out on this benefit of their All Star Movies stay will continue to do so.

If the pandemic has taught us anything, it is that MOST people will book Disney Resorts whether or not there are perks. Perks just fill the last remaining rooms, especially at deluxes.

If it somehow manages to be the cluster you suggest, they’ll just open earlier. Nothing new there. I literally went Christmas Week 2 years ago. I was in some parks at 7 am for daily MEMH because they extended due to crowds. It still wasn‘t crowded until 10 am (after that time, it was crowded). Old habits die hard.

That's fair, and I think I'm inclined to agree with you that it won't be all that different than the old EMH in terms of crowd levels. I'm still curious to see how it goes, though.
 

ToTBellHop

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That's fair, and I think I'm inclined to agree with you that it won't be all that different than the old EMH in terms of crowd levels. I'm still curious to see how it goes, though.
Absolutely curious too. And I agree with whomever was surprised that it starts 10/1. Risky choice. I would have done 9/27 to work out the kinks. But they didn’t ask me…
 

DCBaker

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CaptainAmerica

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People don’t change behaviors like that. The people who will be there now were always there for park open.
But the MEMH people now have four parks to choose from each day, not just one. It remains to be seen how much you can do in 30 minutes at Hollywood Studios when the EMH people have all four parks to choose from versus a full hour when *every* EMH person was in the same park on the same days.
 

matt9112

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The majority won’t go to MK. The majority don’t have park reservations there. You go where your reservation is. Most resort guests go to all 4 parks.

Most resort guests do multiple days at mk...so theoretical your wrong. Most people will go to mk. Its the busiest park by a wide margin. Thats not All day tickets.
 

matt9112

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To add to this, for people who avoided Early Magic Hours this is a much better perk. It's something where before many people saw it as nothing.

It wasn't uncommon to avoid early entry because it drew guests to one specific park, meaning overall crowds would be higher and one might be inclined to park hop to go somewhere quieter later. Either way, the extra hour was offset by longer lines in general and transportation time.

Now, there's no strategic need to avoid early entry. It's something those of us who didn't use in the past, will now take advantage of.

Your right but the perk is worse for everyone who did use it. So its a trade off.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Your right but the perk is worse for everyone who did use it. So its a trade off.
But of those who did use it the numbers should be lower.

In the simplest scenario, whereby only those who used it before do so again and are split evenly, there would be 25% of the numbers of people in the park. But even allowing for a doubling in the numbers, that’s still only half as many as before.

Given the reaction from most posters in this thread, many of those staying onsite will say “it’s not worth it” and not bother, making the number of guests even lower. 😁
 

ToTBellHop

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Most resort guests do multiple days at mk...so theoretical your wrong. Most people will go to mk. Its the busiest park by a wide margin. Thats not All day tickets.
No…if you take an average resort stay, most guests go to EVERY park. While it is true that just about no one SKIPS MK while some will skip one of the others, that does not mean on a given day that most are going to MK. A quick look at yearly attendance proves this. The total attendance at the other three parks (and this only counts your first park visit if the day, a good approximation of early entry attendance) is much higher than attendance at MK. MK gets roughly 35% of first-park-attendance. And, not surprisingly, MK has more rides open for early entry than the others. Even that 35% over-estimates (but gives us a rough idea) because the percentage of MK guests who are not Resort guests is higher than the other 3 parka. It’s almost as though Disney is adept at crowd control.
 
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