Drunk Man Climbs Mexico Pavilion at Epcot

[alissafalco]

Thanks to folks like you I was able to have a wondrous career at EPCOT as a lifeguard.

I think I remember seeing you there back in the day.

 

[Cesar R M]

I was in the vicinity yesterday when the No Climbing signs were installed on either side of the mural on the outside of the pyramid. (sorry, didn't manage to get a picture)

wow, whats next? barbed wire because some idiot did this? D:

 

[Tiggerish]

wow, whats next? barbed wire because some idiot did this? D:

There's a pretty wide gulf between a flat sign attached to the wall and barbed wire.

 

[George]

I think I remember seeing you there back in the day.

You almost certainly did. You can ask @sshindel , but my lifeguarding was right up there with Horizons and the original Imagination as a lynchpin of the park.

There's a pretty wide gulf between a flat sign attached to the wall and barbed wire.

If I get what you're saying correctly, I'm picturing flat sign on the wall, big moat, and then barbed wire fence to prevent swimming across the moat (due to the infamous lifeguard budget cuts at EPCOT that cost yours truly gainful employment). I'm also picturing a pretty big moat since you refer to it as a gulf which is generally large. Can we still get to that tequila cave? Also, will WS lagoon be brought into play?

 

[WDWVolFan]

If only there were Disney security around the World Showcase. Oh I forgot, they are all at the main entrance doing more important work - checking for selfie-sticks.

People do not know how to use selfie sticks respectfully...I'm glad those damn things are banned.

 

[French Quarter]

Let me be the bad guy here.

Everyone saying this is funny, it's really not. He may or may not be drunk, but my point will remain. You have to control the idiots and the first step is eliminating mind altering alcohol because some people can't handle it.

This is not only a safety concern, but an example of behavior that is not conducive to a family environment at Disney. What happens next time? Instead of climbing Mexico, let's say someone starts going around and slapping women on the bum. Is that funny? I can guarantee you it will happen. What if some creep goes around exposing himself? Then, no one is laughing and everyone is up and arms that Disney didn't "handle" it better.

I'm all for alcohol, even drugs on your own time not hurting anyone else, but not at Disney. The food and wine festival exists for one reason: Money.

It's the one thing I wish they'd just eliminate. I know people like drinking and most people can handle it, but it's the idiots like this (assuming he was drunk) that will ruin it for everyone. It's only a matter of time.

95% of people can handle a glass of wine, or even a few, but that 5% really can ruin an experience for a family that is supposed to be enjoying a family vacation. My problem with the alcohol at EPCOT is not the alcohol itself, but the fact you cannot choose to disassociate with it. You're forced to be around others who are drinking and try as you might, you can't avoid idiots.

Some people tend to be idiots at Disney anyway and they don't need an alcohol accelerator.

I'm not going to touch the alcohol thing because I just think such a reaction is overkill. But I want to say that I don't think anyone thought the guy was funny. In this thread, people are making fun of the guy. Laughing at him, not with him.

 

[French Quarter]

divine lifestyle & code of morals than you... lol... Probably the most pathetic sentence in a post full of them. Please give a great details on how not having wine makes you have better morals.... I need a good a laugh

It was clearly satire. Go back and read the whole post.

 

[French Quarter]

He actually makes the building look smaller then it really is climbing those steps. And if he was sober he would be smart enough to climb during Illuminations where all the lights are out then get off before they start lighting the buildings.

I thought the same thing when I watched. He looked very Godzilla-ish.

 

[French Quarter]

LOL, you mad bro?

Not sure why you're so upset about my stance, but in the end, Disney will keep it for the money. You don't have to worry. How am I telling you what to do? This isn't about you or me. I'm simply stating my opinion on policy. It's not about moral superiority...drinking has nothing to do with morals.

I've been going to Disney since I was 6 months old and have probably been 60+ times. I've seen plenty of drunkards at EPCOT and it doesn't need to exist in a family park, of course in my opinion.

Objectively, Disney is still about families and I don't think it's too big of a stretch to remove alcohol from the norm. People like a lot of things, including me, but that doesn't mean they belong at Disney or are consistent with a family experience.

Ok fine. I will bite after all.

I'm not understanding your premise. Are you saying that alcohol should never be present in families? With all due respect, it is perfectly legal for me to enjoy an adult beverage while vacationing with my children. You can choose not to when you are with yours. But it should be a choice. It's called freedom.

 

[French Quarter]

They should probably stop selling alcohol and switch to donuts and tips on how to stick closer to church oriented social activities.

Brilliant.

 

[French Quarter]

Alas, the key is responsibly, which I'm sure you do brilliantly, but not everyone does.

I'm neither concerned about people enjoying alcohol responsibly nor am I lecturing people about drinking. I think all forms of mind altering drugs should be legal when enjoyed responsibly and not affecting others. At Disney, idiots will affect others in general and they are just worse with alcohol.

Why are you still on about alcohol? From most accounts, this person was not drunk.

 

[rucifee]

Why are you still on about alcohol? From most accounts, this person was not drunk.

It's possible he was drunk and those people just couldn't tell because they weren't close enough to smell it. Hard to smell alcohol on someone's breath from way up there. ha!

You can't judge someone's alcohol level from how they appear.

 

[French Quarter]

It's possible he was drunk and those people just couldn't tell because they weren't close enough to smell it. Hard to smell alcohol on someone's breath from way up there. ha!

You can't judge someone's alcohol level from how they appear.

If that is true, why assume that alcohol was a factor?

 

[rucifee]

If that is true, why assume that alcohol was a factor?

There are many reasons to make the assumption. It's not called liquid courage for nothing. ha!

 

[Chef Mickey]

Ok fine. I will bite after all.

I'm not understanding your premise. Are you saying that alcohol should never be present in families? With all due respect, it is perfectly legal for me to enjoy an adult beverage while vacationing with my children. You can choose not to when you are with yours. But it should be a choice. It's called freedom.

No. I don't care if kids drink, families drink, or anyone drinks. I care about how people act when they are affecting the people around them. This about isn't freedom. Public intoxication is not freedom. I'm not free to impact you and your family in a negative way. That's called annoying.

You are free to do whatever you want, but not at the expense of others.

You're having a hard time separating your own experience and ability with a bigger picture about the policy. Many people, can only think about things as it relates to themselves and how they would handle the situation. I'm not talking about your ability to handle an adult beverage or try to take away your right to have one. I'm also not questioning the legality or morality of doing so.

I'm simply stating that if a select few mishandle the privilege of having alcohol in a private theme park, it can indeed ruin an experience for a family just trying to have a good time at what is almost by definition a family place first. That is incredibly unfortunate, but it's not like I'm suggesting taking away a core component of a theme park like rides or food. Alcohol is not an integral part of a theme park experience.

The truly unfortunate part of drinking in public is that others are unable to avoid the stupid behavior. When there is an incident, the people involved are loud, obnoxious, and tend to do things that impact a larger crowd, creating a scene or worse, an altercation.

I've experienced EPCOT enough (60+ trips to Disney) to see that alcohol has a negative effect on guest behavior and it doesn't mix well with large crowds and children.

I also realize it will never change unless their hand is completely forced to do away with it. I actually hope that never happens because it will probably mean a very unfortunate incident.

Alcohol can change people. It can change how you'll react. Most people can handle it, some really can't. The few that can't can ruin it for everyone.

Let me give you a trivial analogy. If you leave a bowl of Halloween candy on your doorstep because you're not home and ask the trick-or-treaters to take 2 pieces, it works if everyone follows the rules. It stops working when one kid comes and takes then entire bowl. Then the next year, you won't leave candy out again. One kid ruined it for everyone.

 

[French Quarter]

No. I don't care if kids drink, families drink, or anyone drinks. I care about how people act when they are affecting the people around them. This about isn't freedom. Public intoxication is not freedom. I'm not free to impact you and your family in a negative way. That's called annoying.

You are free to do whatever you want, but not at the expense of others.

You're having a hard time separating your own experience and ability with a bigger picture about the policy. Many people, can only think about things as it relates to themselves and how they would handle the situation. I'm not talking about your ability to handle an adult beverage or try to take away your right to have one. I'm also not questioning the legality or morality of doing so.

I'm simply stating that if a select few mishandle the privilege of having alcohol in a private theme park, it can indeed ruin an experience for a family just trying to have a good time at what is almost by definition a family place first. That is incredibly unfortunate, but it's not like I'm suggesting taking away a core component of a theme park like rides or food. Alcohol is not an integral part of a theme park experience.

The truly unfortunate part of drinking in public is that others are unable to avoid the stupid behavior. When there is an incident, the people involved are loud, obnoxious, and tend to do things that impact a larger crowd, creating a scene or worse, an altercation.

I've experienced EPCOT enough (60+ trips to Disney) to see that alcohol has a negative effect on guest behavior and it doesn't mix well with large crowds and children.

I also realize it will never change unless their hand is completely forced to do away with it. I actually hope that never happens because it will probably mean a very unfortunate incident.

Alcohol can change people. It can change how you'll react. Most people can handle it, some really can't. The few that can't can ruin it for everyone.

Let me give you a trivial analogy. If you leave a bowl of Halloween candy on your doorstep because you're not home and ask the trick-or-treaters to take 2 pieces, it works if everyone follows the rules. It stops working when one kid comes and takes then entire bowl. Then the next year, you won't leave candy out again. One kid ruined it for everyone.

I'm going to be honest with you. I only read the first 3 paragraphs of your response. If you can't explain it in less than 400 words, I really don't have the energy to go there with you over a mundane fan board discussion.

We have a difference of opinion. I think people should get to choose whether they drink alcohol or not while on vacation. You think someone should make that choice for them. That's all I was trying to confirm.

 

[SeanWM48]

Alcohol can change people. It can change how you'll react. Most people can handle it, some really can't. The few that can't can ruin it for everyone.

that's a true statement but my argument would be "don't LET it ruin things for everybody else." Security is there for a reason. I've been to Epcot three times and never had a problem. If somebody is being rude, drunk or not, you can go to security and I'm sure they will have no problem warning them or walking them out of the park

 

[Chef Mickey]

I'm going to be honest with you. I only read the first 3 paragraphs of your response. If you can't explain it in less than 400 words, I really don't have the energy to go there with you over a mundane fan board discussion.

We have a difference of opinion. I think people should get to choose whether they drink alcohol or not while on vacation. You think someone should make that choice for them. That's all I was trying to confirm.

You asked me a question and I answered it. The shorter answer is, I'm right.

Don't read it if you're that lazy...I don't care what you think, to be honest. I'm not here to agree with everyone. I stated what I think. I'm sure some agree, some disagree.

 

[Chef Mickey]

that's a true statement but my argument would be "don't LET it ruin things for everybody else." Security is there for a reason. I've been to Epcot three times and never had a problem. If somebody is being rude, drunk or not, you can go to security and I'm sure they will have no problem warning them or walking them out of the park

Agree 100%. That's the way you have to approach it.

 

[alissafalco]

someone posted this to FB