Dress code

LittleBuford

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Sports bras are designed to prevent from flopping around while the wearer exercises. That's the extent of what they're designed to do.
Many sports bras are designed to be worn as standalone pieces and not necessarily under anything. There is no reason to assume that the OP is talking about something skimpy that would become sheer when wet.
 

LittleBuford

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Since many here are framing the topic as some kind of modern-day decline, it’s worth noting that historical Western fashions could be much, much more revealing and attention-seeking than our own. Half a millennium ago, men were wearing tight hose on their legs and codpieces to accentuate their genitalia. In the eighteenth century, women’s dresses were so low-cut that their nipples were routinely exposed. It was only in the Victorian period that more conservative dress codes became prevalent.
 

jloucks

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I actually agree with this, though I come down on the other side of the issue in general. I present myself well when I go out in public, my family does the same, and I wish more people would. But for the most part, People of Walmart (and the like) is made of up people who are extremely poor and/or intellectually disabled.

But this thread isn't about people who can't afford proper clothes or don't know any better. It's about middle-aged women prancing around in $70 lululemon bras.
Right! I respect myself and others, and so I dress nice in public. ...or maybe I dress nice when I am happy. ...or maybe both.

For me, my ire is more focused on the "F your feelings" mentality when it comes to fashion. People who intentional wear their fancy underwear as outerwear and then gaslight me about being dressed, or that I should not gawk.

Isn't there even a fable on the topic? The Emperor's New Clothes?

But, again, like I said before, I only really care if I cannot gawk (see above fable), my kids will get into trouble at school for repeating, or you're smearing your outputers where other people have to sit.
 

jloucks

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It's not a matter of modesty, it's a matter of purpose. A man's bathing suit is just as modest as a man's shorts, but you don't wear one unless you're going swimming. The issue with a sports bra isn't how much it covers or doesn't cover, it's that it's a bra.
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You could wear flippers and run a marathon. I mean, this chap is doing just fine. That makes it ok.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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There is no reason to assume that the OP is talking about something skimpy that would become sheer when wet.
Yeah, I'm going to stick with the opinion that it pays to double check for sheerness when choosing theme park attire.

Sadly, a lot of products run on the cheap side these days.

Have you never read reviews for leggings?

SURPRISE! A number of them are not opaque, especially when the sun hits them.



I even recall a famous lawsuit a few years back over leggings that became sheer after a few washings. It significantly dinged the company's reputation:

https://us.fashionnetwork.com/news/...er-yoga-pants-gets-lead-plaintiff,524153.html
 

LittleBuford

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Yeah, I'm going to stick with the opinion that it pays to double check for sheerness when choosing theme park attire.

Sadly, a lot of products run on the cheap side these days.

Have you never read reviews for leggings?

SURPRISE! A number of them are not opaque, especially when the sun hits them.



I even recall a famous lawsuit a few years back over leggings that became sheer after a few washings. It significantly dinged the company's reputation:

https://us.fashionnetwork.com/news/...er-yoga-pants-gets-lead-plaintiff,524153.html
OK, but this doesn’t really have anything to do with the OP’s question. An expensive formal dress that covers the whole body can also become quite revealing when wet.
 

Club Cooloholic

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Correct.


Correct.


Wut?


A baseball cap is not attire, it's an accessory. It should only be worn outdoors, just like sunglasses.


A polo shirt is appropriate for pretty much any casual situation.


Denim is centuries old and has nothing to do with "ranching" or "rodeo."


It's not a matter of modesty, it's a matter of purpose. A man's bathing suit is just as modest as a man's shorts, but you don't wear one unless you're going swimming. The issue with a sports bra isn't how much it covers or doesn't cover, it's that it's a bra.
No, these are all evolutions in fashion. The fabric of denim has been around for ages but it wasn't till relatively recent in its life that it became socially acceptable to wear as non work wear.
Do you think it was acceptable to be a grown man rolling around with a baseball cap in the 50s? It just wasn't done but ya know things EVOLVED to the point you can't see how it was ever an issue.
 

Weather_Lady

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Sports bras are designed to prevent from flopping around while the wearer exercises. That's the extent of what they're designed to do.
Yes, the initial purpose was as a "stop-em-flop-em," but that purpose has changed, especially with teens, who I routinely see using them as streetwear. Many women today wear them the same way one would wear a [far less comfortable or practical] tube top or tank top, and designers are making adorable ones for that purpose.

Check out the online catalogs of sportswear companies like Athleta, and you'll see what I mean.

I'm not saying they're appropriate in most settings, but they're there.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Yes, the initial purpose was as a "stop-em-flop-em," but that purpose has changed, especially with teens, who I routinely see using them as streetwear. Many women today wear them the same way one would wear a [far less comfortable or practical] tube top or tank top, and designers are making adorable ones for that purpose.

Check out the online catalogs of sportswear companies like Athleta, and you'll see what I mean.

I'm not saying they're appropriate in most settings, but they're there.
All the ones marketed as “crop” bras look fine to me. The others look like bras - I’m not sure they’re appropriate as shirts but I wouldn’t be offended if someone wore one in the parks. New standards these days.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
No, these are all evolutions in fashion. The fabric of denim has been around for ages but it wasn't till relatively recent in its life that it became socially acceptable to wear as non work wear.
Do you think it was acceptable to be a grown man rolling around with a baseball cap in the 50s? It just wasn't done but ya know things EVOLVED to the point you can't see how it was ever an issue.
Swimwear in 2022 looks a lot different than swimwear in 1914, but neither is appropriate to wear to a wedding.
 

LittleBuford

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15 years ago, teens were doing this.

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"What teens do" is not a standard for what's appropriate. Teens are transgressive and inappropriate on purpose. That's why they're teens.
Several adult women in this thread have shared with us the fact that they wear sports bras as outerwear. You’re mischaracterising the kind of attire under discussion in order to argue your point. We’re talking about crop tops by another name, not provocative lingerie.
 

Pepper's Ghost

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When it comes down to it, the OP should wear what they feel will be appropriate, but be prepared with something comfortable to cover with in case the CM doesn't agree on appropriateness. It's really that simple.

We don't have to have debates on proper usage of sports bras or whatever else you wanna call 'em. Wear what you find comfortable and appropriate, and don't abuse the CM for doing their job asking you to cover up if they feel it's necessary. That's a great way to get shared a gazillion times on Twitter, at which time you may or may not regret being abused by the masses, shamed, and probably called a Karen more times than you can count. That's the bigger issue for me... people who make what could be borderline inappropriate choices, and then abusing others for their choices.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
We’re talking about crop tops by another name
"Crop top" and "sports bra" are not interchangeable. Some particular garments might be fairly described as both, but certainly not all.

not provocative lingerie.
Again, my concern is not for modesty or sexuality, it's about decorum. Boxer shorts aren't provocative, but they're inappropriate. Long underwear aren't provocative, but they're inappropriate. Undershirts aren't provocative, but they're inappropriate.

I'm not saying "sports bras are inappropriate because they're too sexy," I'm saying "sports bras are inappropriate because they're bras."
 

LittleBuford

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"Crop top" and "sports bra" are not interchangeable. Some particular garments might be fairly described as both, but certainly not all.


Again, my concern is not for modesty or sexuality, it's about decorum. Boxer shorts aren't provocative, but they're inappropriate. Long underwear aren't provocative, but they're inappropriate. Undershirts aren't provocative, but they're inappropriate.

I'm not saying "sports bras are inappropriate because they're too sexy," I'm saying "sports bras are inappropriate because they're bras."
Some of the distinctions you’re drawing seem really pedantic. By your standards, a white T-shirt marketed as an undershirt is inappropriate simply because of the name under which it’s sold, even if it’s otherwise indistinguishable from a regular white T-shirt. That makes no sense to me.

The OP, who herself seemed to be conflating crop tops and sports brass, was clearly asking about a particular cut of garment. We all know the kind of thing she means. To focus on terminology is to ignore the point of her question. CMs aren’t going to care (and may not even be able to tell) if it was sold to her as crop top or a sports bra; they’re going to care what it looks like.
 

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