Dreamworks to Disney?

jt04

Well-Known Member
It's really amusing to me how so many posters don't understand that this deal has nothing to do with Dreamworks Animation. No matter how many time that fact is repeated. The moderators should edit the first post since apparently people don't like reading the whole thread.

Plus some keep mentioning Geffen who I believe left Dreamworks.

Not sure how anyone can see Speiberg working with the mouse as a negative. Speilberg and Imagineering and possibly WDAS working together is an amazing thought, at least to me.
 

Chroniq

Member
Geffen left both Dreamworks SKG and Dreamworks Animation in October.
Katzenberg Left Dreamworks SKG when Dreamworks Animation was spun off as a seperate company. Dreamworks Records were sold years as ago as was their Video Game division.

This leaves Dreamworks as a boutique movie studio under the control of Snider and Speilberg. Both Katzenberg and Geffen no longer have an involvement with the company.

Dreamworks Animation is a seperate publicly traded company where Katzenberg is CEO and their distribution is with Paramount/Viacom. Dreamworks Animation even techincally owns the Dreamworks logo and Speilberg may be forced to change the logo.

Sorry if I'm repeating myself on these posts, I just want everyone reading to be crystal clear on what is going on.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Geffen left both Dreamworks SKG and Dreamworks Animation in October.
Katzenberg Left Dreamworks SKG when Dreamworks Animation was spun off as a seperate company. Dreamworks Records were sold years as ago as was their Video Game division.

This leaves Dreamworks as a boutique movie studio under the control of Snider and Speilberg. Both Katzenberg and Geffen no longer have an involvement with the company.

Dreamworks Animation is a seperate publicly traded company where Katzenberg is CEO and their distribution is with Paramount/Viacom. Dreamworks Animation even techincally owns the Dreamworks logo and Speilberg may be forced to change the logo.


Sorry if I'm repeating myself on these posts, I just want everyone reading to be crystal clear on what is going on.

Awesome stuff. Facts are good so thanks for the information!:)
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I know. I posted the update.




:lol: Yep. It's supposed to be part of what won him over. *ding* Now between him and Lasseter, we might start seeing Rasulo forced to accept new projects.

Wow...Could this be what we were waiting for?:eek::eek: The parks getting some VERY new things?:lookaroun
 

Enigma

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An "average employee" deserves "average" pay. My advice is, if you want more pay don't be average.

So people like Paul Pressler and Rick Wagner deserve multimillion dollar saleries for...what exactly? bringing down great companies? They are below average and yet they fly around in private jets and have fancy parties (paid for by shareholders and taxpayers btw).

It's right that Jay Rasolu gets paid the big bucks while talented executives like Matt Ouimet are shown the door?

It's appropriate that do-nothing imagineers like Fitzgerald get promotions while creative folks like Bruce Gordon are given the pink slip?

You are very blind.

Even your hero does not dare tell a private company what it can pay it's employees.

Any private company looking for a handout will get a pay cap on executive pay. He has no reason to go after private companies (at least not yet). My other heroes Reagan and Clinton didn't either. I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to say here.

I have been around long enough to see how people's standard of living for the "middle class" has greatly improved. That may not be true in your little circle but it is quite true overall. If someone has seen there their economic situation decline it is usually due to a refusal to live within their economic means, refusing to budget and running up credit card debt.

What inner circle are you talking about? You assume a great deal about me. Just as you assume a great deal about WDW1974.

*end of lesson*

This lesson is just beginning. As the real world will soon demonstrate for you.


PS- I know you are too lost to even comprehend what I just said. I really mean it for others who might have read your factless opinion.

Wow you are an extremly arrogant person. I think people can make their own decisions and don't need to listen to your poor attempts to brainwash people.
 

Computer Magic

Well-Known Member
So people like Paul Pressler and Rick Wagner deserve multimillion dollar saleries for...what exactly? bringing down great companies? They are below average and yet they fly around in private jets and have fancy parties (paid for by shareholders and taxpayers btw).

It's right that Jay Rasolu gets paid the big bucks while talented executives like Matt Ouimet are shown the door?

It's appropriate that do-nothing imagineers like Fitzgerald get promotions while creative folks like Bruce Gordon are given the pink slip?

You are very blind.



Any private company looking for a handout will get a pay cap on executive pay. He has no reason to go after private companies (at least not yet). My other heroes Reagan and Clinton didn't either. I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to say here.



What inner circle are you talking about? You assume a great deal about me. Just as you assume a great deal about WDW1974.



This lesson is just beginning. As the real world will soon demonstrate for you.




Wow you are an extremly arrogant person. I think people can make their own decisions and don't need to listen to your poor attempts to brainwash people.
what you are asking for is accountability. Pay for actually accomplishing a goal. That is a board issue. Stock holders are suppose to control the board who in return give action on pay. Sadly that hasn't happen for many years. America is based on getting pay (rewarded) for doing a good job. We need to get back to that, but stockholder and boards need to hold CEO accountable.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
So people like Paul Pressler and Rick Wagner deserve multimillion dollar saleries for...what exactly? bringing down great companies? They are below average and yet they fly around in private jets and have fancy parties (paid for by shareholders and taxpayers btw).

Tis' none of your business how companies spend their money unless you are a stock holder

It's right that Jay Rasolu gets paid the big bucks while talented executives like Matt Ouimet are shown the door?

Not the whole story.

It's appropriate that do-nothing imagineers like Fitzgerald get promotions while creative folks like Bruce Gordon are given the pink slip?

Office politics and power plays that have nothing to do with you apparently

You are very blind.

Hardly



Any private company looking for a handout will get a pay cap on executive pay. He has no reason to go after private companies (at least not yet). My other heroes Reagan and Clinton didn't either.

Obama is no Clinton and certainly no Reagan. Think Jimmy Carter.



What inner circle are you talking about? You assume a great deal about me. Just as you assume a great deal about WDW1974.

WDW74 is your mentor, I get it. "There are always two":lookaroun



This lesson is just beginning. As the real world will soon demonstrate for you.

Arrogant ramblings with no facts or substance.




Wow you are an extremly arrogant person.

You are the one who seems to think you know what people are worth. That is the definition of arrogant.

I specifically said my post was not meant for you. :veryconfu:lookaroun:lol:
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
what you are asking for is accountability. Pay for actually accomplishing a goal. That is a board issue. Stock holders are suppose to control the board who in return give action on pay. Sadly that hasn't happen for many years. America is based on getting pay (rewarded) for doing a good job. We need to get back to that, but stockholder and boards need to hold CEO accountable.

AMEN!:wave:
 

Disneyfanman

Well-Known Member
Well just to return to the original discussion, my world is now officially upside down and I am skipping through "anything is possible" land. I look forward to the announcement. Spielberg is the most talented and proficient living director today and having him around is better than not. In any capacity.

And as for Iger, in his tenure we have seen John Lasseter join the team, Steve Jobs join the board, and now maybe Steven Spielberg in the fold....even with limited capacity? These are three guys who have both creative and business sides.

Fingers crossed.
 

Enigma

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what you are asking for is accountability. Pay for actually accomplishing a goal. That is a board issue. Stock holders are suppose to control the board who in return give action on pay. Sadly that hasn't happen for many years. America is based on getting pay (rewarded) for doing a good job. We need to get back to that, but stockholder and boards need to hold CEO accountable.

Your 100% right. MY issue is that most CEO's are not being held accountable.

and JT04 it becomes my business when I own several thousand dollars in Disney shares and for the record I do vote every year on Disney policies. I seem to recall making a topic a few days ago where I recommended voting against a particular board member.

I also advise you to look up the term "Stakeholder" and check out the movie "Walmart: The high cost of low prices" and then come back and tell me its nobodies business.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Your 100% right. MY issue is that most CEO's are not being held accountable.

and JT04 it becomes my business when I own several thousand dollars in Disney shares and for the record I do vote every year on Disney policies. I seem to recall making a topic a few days ago where I recommended voting against a particular board member.

See now that is a more professional way of handling things. Perhaps you should be WDW74's mentor :lol:
 

wickedsoccer22

Active Member
What are the chances of Disney just swallowing Dreamworks SKG eventually?

And what are the chances of Dreamworks Animation ditching Paramount for Disney?

- And if that happens, what are the chances Disney will agree to work with Dreamworks Animation?


I think I read somewhere Iger was seen having dinner with Jeffrey Katzenberg recently?
 

Enigma

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What are the chances of Disney just swallowing Dreamworks SKG eventually?

And what are the chances of Dreamworks Animation ditching Paramount for Disney?

- And if that happens, what are the chances Disney will agree to work with Dreamworks Animation?


I think I read somewhere Iger was seen having dinner with Jeffrey Katzenberg recently?

It's possible down the road. Iger did hint at acquistions (possibly sea world). This deal certainly paves the way for that eventually.

But this is definetly a "one step at a time" type thing so lets not get way ahead of our selves.
 

Mr.EPCOT

Active Member
This is 100% about movies and 0% about parks.

I wouldn't quite say that. Disney would almost certainly gain the rights to develop attractions based on DreamWorks films that they distribute. And once again, Spielberg and Disney burying the hatchet could lead to further development of the once-popular Roger Rabbit franchise, including for the theme parks.
 
Well just to return to the original discussion, my world is now officially upside down and I am skipping through "anything is possible" land. I look forward to the announcement. Spielberg is the most talented and proficient living director today and having him around is better than not. In any capacity.

And as for Iger, in his tenure we have seen John Lasseter join the team, Steve Jobs join the board, and now maybe Steven Spielberg in the fold....even with limited capacity? These are three guys who have both creative and business sides.

Fingers crossed.

Iger also got the rights for Oswald back. He has managed to accomplish quite a few major additions in a short time. If Dreamworks, down the road, does get bought out by Disney it will be interesting to see if Spielberg becomes a major share holder like Jobs did.

Either way I think the distribution deal is a big win for Disney and a major loss for Universal. Spielberg is a big name to loose...or gain.
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
No single human deserves that kind of bonus sorry.

Iger may be making the right moves but it is absurd that CEOs think they can make 400 times what the average employee is making. Overpaying dumbass ceo's is what caused the middle class's standard of living to go down and contributed to the economic mess we are in.

Correct as usual, King Friday. ;)

We're dealing with the problems of overcompensation now, but I won't go as far as to say that everyone should be making the same amount of money. Socialism doesn't work, either. (Not to say you're suggesting it does.)

Iger has made some very clever business moves as his company's core products suffer (Disney Stores, Beverly Hills Chihuahua, Toon Disney, Park Quality, etc.) It's time for him to turn his attention toward bringing everything back up to the Golden Standard instead of getting content onto iPhones.

That said...I'm a tech head, too. :eek:
 

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