Dreamlight Return? New 2023 Christmas Ornament at Magic Kingdom Shows Castle Dreamlights

Touchdown

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I don't know but I didn't even use that as an option. I said for a while every night, not constant. What will not be cheap is the time it cost to put up, take down and store safely that is huge in itself unless it's all being done by volunteers.
That’s the alternative as seen the last few years. I very much wonder how much of a cost difference there is. I mean ideally, they would simply imbed the lights in the castle itself (imagine them being used briefly when Tink comes out in HEA on the yellow setting to simulate pixie dust) and we would get the effect without the cost of put up and take down.
 
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jpeden

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In the Parks
No
I'm sure it is less then if they were conventional, but I don't think you would like to get the daily electric bill for that many LED's either.

LED’s are extremely cheap to run. I used to run a Christmas light show at the botanical garden I was the Associate Director of - we had 1,000,000 LED bulbs/diodes in the show overall and ran it 5 hours a night for 32 nights - total power cost was like $800 or $25/night. The dream lights probably are in that neighborhood.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I got all excited for the title when I misread it as "Dreamflight return..."

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HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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LED’s are extremely cheap to run. I used to run a Christmas light show at the botanical garden I was the Associate Director of - we had 1,000,000 LED bulbs/diodes in the show overall and ran it 5 hours a night for 32 nights - total power cost was like $800 or $25/night. The dream lights probably are in that neighborhood.
My family puts about ~40,000 Christmas lights that run from ~6pm - 11pm from Thanksgiving until New Years, it barely makes a dent in the electric bill.
Please stop injecting logic and actual data and first hand information. If Goofyer didn’t see it with his own eyes, it could not have possibly happened, so your posts and actual experiences are invalid. 😉

There’s no way projections cost less than LED lights at this point (not to mention… why in the blue hell would anyone advocate projecting “lights” onto the castle? That’s 3 levels past stupid). Figure out a way to make actual lights on the castle happen without the crane being required every year, TDO. I dare you.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I think someone here with inside knowledge said some years back that there existed a proposal to permanently embed the LED lights into the castle walls. So no more needing to install and remove them every year, and no more visible mesh netting. Money being the reason it wasn't done though.
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
I think someone here with inside knowledge said some years back that there existed a proposal to permanently embed the LED lights into the castle walls. So no more needing to install and remove them every year, and no more visible mesh netting. Money being the reason it wasn't done though.

Its not like there's a suitable substructure on the castle to easily bolt things on like Spaceship Earths' metal skin. The "castle" is fiberglass, plaster, and concrete.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Its not like there's a suitable substructure on the castle to easily bolt things on like Spaceship Earths' metal skin. The "castle" is fiberglass, plaster, and concrete.
I found the person who made the claim, it was marni1971. Here's the posts-


 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
I found the person who made the claim, it was marni1971. Here's the posts-


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I dont comprehend your point. Mine is that a permenant installation of lights, not a net, would require lots of anchoring points through the surface of the structure in addtion to the required cabling to enable them to work.

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MerlinTheGoat

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I dont comprehend your point. Mine is that a permenant installation of lights, not a net, would require lots of anchoring points through the surface of the structure in addtion to the required cabling to enable them to work.

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The proposal for a permanent Dreamlights installation would not have had the wiring infrastructure running across the outside surface of the castle like in those SSE fixtures. From what I understand, deep holes would have been drilled through the fiberglass and concrete for the electrical work. All of the wiring and other electrical components would be on the inside.

The LED lights used on the Dreamlights are also completely different than those used on SSE. They're extremely tiny individual diodes and nowhere near as bright. They don't require large bulky fixtures like that. Along with the wiring being internally embedded, the permanent LED's themselves would be gray in color and about the size of a coin, flush against the castle wall as well. Nearly invisible even during the day (the existing lights have a very noticeable mesh net).
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
No matter how much you try to dress it up, you're still not going to replace the existing infrastructure or construction. The upper floors are fiberglass, and the lower ones are gypsum plaster over concrete.
 

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