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MANEATINGWREATH

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Off-topic but what exactly is the NJASK? We take the CST at our school, the California Standardized Testing.

Anyways yeah expect to see Frontierland later on tonight. Stay tuned everyone and please tell all your friends about this!
 

mewhunter67

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I love teh standardized testing acronyms... i've seen FCAT, CTBS, ASVAB, some in MD i dont remember, all teh CB ones (PSAT SAT AP) ACT, blah...
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Frontierland Overview

And then there is the ever popular "SAT," I don't even know what the heck that one stands for. Also in California we have the CAHSEE which is the California High School Exit Exam. And they tell us not to use text slang in school...

Anyways back on the subject here, may I present to you Frontierland! After months of waiting this land is finally going to be brought into the light! Forgive me if it gets confusing at times, just bear with me and keep on reading until the end.

(While reading play this song for dramatic effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifxqOVt_YE8)

The year is 1850, as a proud sternwheeler makes its way up the Rivers of America. This is Frontierland, where the spirit of the American pioneer still prevails.

Okay, sorry guys but I'm going to have to put you all on hold again. My mom's currently yelling at me to get in the car. I totally forgot that we had a dinner party to go to tonight. Forgive me guys, I'll be sure to finally finish this later tonight or tomorrow. Sorry, believe me I want to finish this land very badly! Just think of this mini-description as a teaser of sorts.
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Frontierland Overview (Hopefully)

Sure Twilight I'll be glad to help if time permits!

Okay so we left early and now I'm back to complete this dang thing. Play the music from my prior post if you'd like to make yourself feel as if you are actually in my imaginary Frontierland.

The year is 1850, as a proud sternwheeler makes its way up a muddy river. Stagecoaches and covered wagons make their way down the street, as simple townsfolk and Indians walk side by side. Gold miners sail out on makeshift rafts to the mines across the river, while music and laughter can be heard emitting from the local saloon. And from the dense wilderness beyond comes the whistling of trains and howl of a coyote, longing to be with its companions. The realm we have just entered is an amalgam of sights and sounds that authentically conjure up images from America's western expansion. Come by land, water, or rail - the pioneer days live on in: Frontierland.

"A Tribute to the Faith, Courage, and Ingenuity of the Pioneers Here we Experience the story of Our Country's Past. The Colorful Drama of Frontier America in the Exciting Days of the Covered Wagon and the Stagecoach. The Advent of the Railroad...and the Romantic Riverboat."- Walt Disney

Closest to Snow White Castle is the entrance to Frontierland, a log-constructed fort overlooking the same murky river flowing beneath the entrances of Adventureland and Caribbean Square. A log bridge leads in through the fort's entrance, creaking and moaning as guests step upon it. The American flag hangs proudly from each tower while rifles seldom point out from the sides of the stockade. If one listens close enough they can hear the sounds of singing from deep within the fort, some evidently bored soldiers the cause of the noise. With the music still in our ears we cross over the bridge and take a step back in time.

The second we step through the fortress gates we find ourselves gone from the world of today and in the world of yesterday. We are now in some boom town of the 1850's, a dusty-old town thriving off of the nearby gold mines. Even if the fortune of the town hasn't been as lucky as it has been in the past, things are pretty nice around here, most folks are happy (Although some aren't very friendly), the water is clean (Well, somewhat clean), and the local farming community has been spitting out some pretty big crops (At least if they haven't been eaten by the nearby moose population)!

This town is Big Thunder, the "Cutest little town on this side of the Mississippi! Population 100" Well it's not that crowded of a town but it is "home sweet home" to some, especially the miners that have called this land home since the very day they arrived here. Big Thunder is also a sign of hope for many weary travelers, including pioneers whom have faced many hardships along their journey, and cowboys who have just returned from a LONG cattle drive. Many of the folks in town are so friendly that they'll offer these travelers a place to stay, along with a free meal and a good night's rest. But not all people are too friendly with strangers...often time when cowboys come into town some farmers don't like the idea of these rowdy people coming into their town and causing havoc (Cowboys are very rude and loud after a LONG cattle drive). So they usually pick fights with the passing strangers, often resulting in arrests, gunshots, and soiled pants. Poor Auntie Sara (The local laundress) had to clean at least fifteen pairs of underwear after a rather disastrous fight that somehow wound up in the river (An upset farmer smeared a cowboy with fishing bait and pushed him in the river so he would be attacked by fish. Instead they fell in together and were both attacked by fish).

But other than all that, Big Thunder is a quite the peaceful town. Something new and exciting happens each and everyday, whether it be a bar-fight, a performing salesman or magician, or even an earthquake or twister! There is always something happening here, and most of the time it has to do with that cursed island across the way...Big Thunder Mountain...


Well I'm going to leave it off at here for tonight. I do have other things to do but I promise you it's not going to end here! Expect to see a whole lot more tomorrow!
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Frontierland Overview Part Two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iteRKvRKFA

The year was 1845 and the very first settlers had arrived in Big Thunder Country, a massive region of dense wilderness marked by its beautiful rivers, crisp forests, and orange peaks of the local buttes. Legend had it that those buttes had gold in them, and soon enough those eager settlers sailed out across the river and began to the explore them, searching for the mountain's supposed fortune. This mountain was none other than the famous Big Thunder Mountain, named for that massive earthquake that it owes its very existence to.

Sooner or later gold was discovered deep within the mountain and the little town of Big Thunder became an entire boom town overnight. The second the Big Thunder Mountain Mining Company was founded, people from all over the country heard the news and came flocking out to the mountain, hoping that they can make a fortune of their own. After the gold rush really started picking up, several people discovered that the fields nearby were extremely fertile for growing crops. Taking this as an advantage farmers began to fly in from all around the world starting their own farms which were just as prosperous as the mines. Money began to flow in and soon enough the railroad company expanded its rails into Big Thunder Country, followed by the advent of the mighty Lewis and Clark Riverboat, which cleared a path in the wilderness so the town would be able to trade and receive goods from other towns and states.

Yes sir things were really looking up for the folks in Big Thunder, and all was well.....until.....until.....it happened.


More to come later, I'm going to keep leaving you all off at certain points to create a small effect. More to come later, keep a whether eye open mates!
 

CharlieD

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I think you have a great storytelling ability, it's great fun to read this. I really hope you stick at this and complete your dream Disney resort, with a couple of other parks as well!
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Frontierland Overview Part Three

Thanks Charlie I try to do my best with these kind of things!

I'm really hoping to have Disneyland to be complete by the beginning of summer, end of June. I don't have that much work coming up for the rest of the school year but I guarantee that I'll have some studying and essays to do. All the major drama stuff is done, the only thing I have now is a choir show in late May, along with the prom (Which I have a date to :D!). Anyways I hope to finish this sooner or later. I really should get started on my absent homework from Thursday but I have all of tomorrow as well...and I have this evening too. So let me get back to my overview of Frontierland! Here is another link to music that can help you get the whole feel of Frontierland while reading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBf1Bkk8Gdk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrDVzbeDzRk&feature=related

On May 13, 1849 a devastating earthquake hit Big Thunder Country. Buildings collapsed, trees fell, buttes crumpled, crops burned in resulting fires, and rivers went dry. A massive avalanche caused by the quake destroyed several mine shafts in Big Thunder Mountain. A large mudslide also caused several cave-ins in freshly dug caverns, stealing the lives of several unfortunate miners. The rivers were thrashed so hard by the disaster that fish were removed from their homes, ancient fossils were uncovered, and mud filled the shores of the town. Many people fled from the scene looking for somewhere else to stay. The crops had gone bad, the mines had gone bust, and the river was unsafe.

The local Indians (The Pinewood Tribe) believed that this great fissure was caused by the ancient beast living deep within the mesa-like mountain. Native American legend claims that many years ago a great beast (That greatly matches the description of a mythical Thunderbird) came to the earth from the heavens and made its nest in the barren wasteland that was Big Thunder Country. Wanting something more it created the mountains, the rivers, the forests, and fields with a flap of its wings. It then created the Pinewood Tribe to tend to its land. When it was angry it would create thunderstorms, when it was happy it would provide its people with an excellent hunt. The deity was also known for laying golden eggs in its nest upon the peak of Big Thunder Mountain. These eggs were said to have extrordinary power within them. If one was to obtain one of these eggs they would be given whatever their heart desires.....but at what cost?

One day a foolish boy decided he wanted to see if those eggs were real or not. He then scaled the peak of the great mountain, eventually reaching the beast's nest at the very top of the mesa. The Thunderbird was out hunting buffalo so no one was home, allowing the boy to hop into the nest and obtain an egg. Inside he found so many golden eggs that he could literally obtain a thousand items that his heart desired! Quickly he gathered up as many eggs as he could hoping that he could take them back to the village and show them off to all of his friends. He would soon be the king of all the country! But as soon as he gathered all the eggs that he could, guess who came flying in? Sure enough the Thunderbird (Who Big Thunder Country is named for) came flying home, a terrified bison in its sharp talons. The boy panicked and not having enough time to escape, hid behind the large twigs that made up the nest. The great eagle landed and placed the poor buffalo in its beak as it frantically tried to escape. The terrified boy watched silently, not wanting to watch what would happen next, even if his tribe did use every part of the buffalo. Then something happened that he wasn't really expecting: The eggs began to hatch. Baby Thunderbirds (That were the size of full-grown bull elephants) emerged from their shells waiting for their first meal. Luckily the eggs that the boy was holding didn't hatch which gave him great relief. Watching in horror the Thunderbird dropped the bison into the squawking babies below as they greedily fought over it. Suddenly the mother began to realize that something was amiss: She was missing eggs. Storm clouds began to roll in as she angrily began to caw which made the mountain shake and the forest creak. The screech was so loud that it caused the eggs in his arms to crack and HATCH. He quickly dropped them and fled. Too bad the Thunderbird saw him leaving. Swooping into the air she grabbed the boy in her talons and carried him high above the earth as his tribe watched in horror from below. With a great swoop of her wings she dropped the foolish boy into her nest. The baby birds could be heard squawking in pleasure from miles away, echoing throughout the forest. The Thunderbird was so upset by this incident that she burned the village (Yes, she could breathe fire) to a crisp. The Indians fled, many of them wishing their companion didn't make such a foolish decision. After destroying as much as she could she then encircled her mountain with a deep, dank river. Flying to the very top she picked up her nest and threw it into the depths of the river, her children now flying after her (The boy was nowhere in sight) with a single strike of lightning she created a humongous cavern in the base of the mountain, flying inside with her chicks behind her. With a crash of thunder the cave sealed up with a massive rockslide. And that's why the Indians believed the earthquake was caused by the Thunderbird. Her rest was disturbed and she wanted to punish the people who disturbed her.

They say that Big Thunder Mountain is now haunted by the miners that died in the quake. Empty mine trains careen along the tracks widly as dusty-old lanterns sway in the wind. At night one can hear invisible voices speaking, mysterious music, and even the sound of digging and picking at cavern walls. The mountain still remains open to the public whom have taken up the habit of riding in the mine trains, no matter how dangerous it is. Some folks even claim that some bandits have taken up residence in a certain part of the mountain. And I GUARANTEE that is one hundred percent true.

It's 1850 now and we've entered the town just after its great reconstruction. It's come a long way since the great disaster. Here we can find everything that a western town needs: A General Store, selling all of your frontier-living needs from clothes to candy, an apothecary and dentist's office (The later having horrible screams coming from inside), a Hunting Supply Shoppe, selling a wide variety of plastic guns, bear traps, and stuffed animals, a bank, a barber shop (With beautiful singing coming from within), a gun shop which just so happens to be right next door to a TNT warehouse (Occasionally there is a shot emitting from the gun store followed by an explosion from next door), and even a schoolhouse. Other shops and buildings include a Miniature Train Museum featuring model trains and minature railroads (Complete with miniature western scenery), the Indian Trading Post which features a wide variety of gifts from the Pinewood Indian Tribe, and Will U. Bea Mine Supply which supplies you with all of your prospecting needs. There's even a sheriff's office, the Elias Hotel, a jailhouse, and a tailor. Cowboys and cowgirls, farmers, Indians, and simple citizens wander around the streets alongside horse-drawn stagecoaches and covered wagons. And no western town would be complete without a saloon. And that saloon is the Diamond-back Rattlesnake Saloon! A wild and honky tonk eatery, the Rattlesnake is a happy place with something for everyone to enjoy. There's a comedic musical melodrama upon the old stage, an Ice Cream bar, dozens of tables, a piano player, and even balcony seating. But beware, sometimes fights can break out when some no-good desperados get into some horrid card games. As a matter of fact there is one particular fight that seems to happen each and every day.....

Billy the Strangler is the most-feared bandit in town, named for his way of committing crimes.....throwing a billy goat at anyone who gets in his way. Well his favorite joint would be the old Rattlesnake Saloon where he just loves to get into card games. Well of course being an outlaw he cheats all the time and upsets his playing companions. Well guns get drawn and soon enough the group gets into a fight, much to the pleasure of our fellow guests. After beating up all of his companions with barstools and chairs the sheriff bursts in to put a stop to this madness. Billy fires at the big authority who returns the fire. Billy then hops onto the bar and climbs up onto one of the empty balconies. The sheriff continues to fire, only for Billy to grab onto a nearby rope hanging from the ceiling and glides all the way over to a window which he shatters and escapes through (The window is a break-away meaning it only appears to shatter even though it really doesn't). The sheriff immediately heads outside to follow him.

Once outside the fight continues, taken to the rooftops. Billy now hops from roof to roof as the sheriff continues to fire at him. Billy ducks behind a crate a top the fishing store and fires back. The sheriff then climbs a ladder onto the same exact roof, getting into a fist fight Billy breaks free from the sheriff's grasp and throws a crate at him, causing the poor officer to fall backwards. Continuing to run Billy falls straight through the roof of a stable, to the displeasure of the unseen livestock (Especially the chickens) inside. The sheriff regroups and looks around for his enemy. Suddenly the stable doors burst open and out comes Billy riding upon an upset horse (The road would be blocked off by cast members). He then gallops away towards the wilderness laughing. The sheriff then hops into the stable as well, also gaining control of the horse. He then chases after him and into the forest where they disappear. Now we're aboard the Disneyland Railroad which is running alongside the Rivers of America. Suddenly we hear the braying of a horse. Sure enough Billy and the sheriff come running alongside the train upon their stolen horses. Billy's horse rears as he jumps off running straight for the forest. Luckily the sheriff whips out his trusty lasso wrapping it around Billy just before he escapes. Thus ends the reign of Billy the Strangler.....for now.....


More to come, we still have to explore the rest of town and the surrounding wilderness! And don't forget about the new attraction based around the Thunderbird!
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Frontierland Overview Part Four

Play this song while reading the majority of the attraction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QqdlXtTIjE&feature=related

Then play this song when reading about the Big Thunder Mountain and its Thunderbird companion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU6YGoF-19w&feature=related

Towards the northern point of town is the Last Chance Outpost which is where one can pick up any last minute supplies before heading out into the wilderness. Beyond the outpost is a forested path leading beneath the railroad tracks and into the unknown. Where this leads we will discuss later, but for now let's continue on with the rest of Frontierland.

Heading towards the very southeast of the land (Towards the Caribbean Square entrance to Frontierland) is Riverboat Square named for its riverside "antics." A small harbor-like area the square is home to Mark Twain's, a rustic library-like bookstore and River's End which isn't a shop but rather a calm relaxing place (With bathrooms in it!) where one can peek through a telescope out towards Big Thunder Mountain and the surrounding wilderness. Also here is the main loading dock for the famous Lewis and Clark Riverboat. Here you can join your experienced captain on a journey around the Rivers of America past the various sights and sounds of the beautiful wilderness. There's plenty to see along the way! But be sure to keep an eye out for river pirates and other bandits! Also here are the Rafts to Big Thunder Mountain. These makeshift rafts (Supposedly created by miners to get over to the mines across the way) will carry great numbers of guests to the infamous mountain. Presuming that we have boarded one of these rafts let's head on over to the island for which this land has been named.

We have stumbled upon the queue of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, the "Wildest ride in the wilderness!" Walking through a desert forest and into a flooded trail we are led up to an old mining camp, the loading area for a series of abandoned mine trains. Boarding one of these we find ourselves aboard the ghost trains of western lore. Careening in and out of caverns, around and about buttes, past landslides and savage beasts, and avoiding cave-ins and earthquakes, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is an adventure that you really don't want to miss.

But there's another adventure on this island that you don't want to miss. Although not an attraction, a mysterious cave rests off to the side of the raft landing. We decide to head into it just for the heck of it. Unfortunately we do not see the sign hanging next to its entrance:

"WARNING: DO NOT ENTER! THIS IS SUPPOSEDLY THE HOME OF THE LEGENDARY THUNDERBIRD. SHE'LL EAT YOU UP IN ONE BITE IF YOU AREN'T CAREFUL! CAVE-INS AND ROCK SLIDES ARE MORE THAN LIKELY BOUND TO HAPPEN. KEEP OUT!"

Inside is a dark and dank path leading deep into the earth. Bats can be heard chirping in the distance as the dripping of water echoes throughout the hallowed halls. Some mysterious noise echoes throughout the rocks, coming from some unknown source. Pressing on we enter almost complete darkness, not knowing what lies ahead. The interior of the mountain moans as we walk through it, the occasional passing overhead train causing the cavern to rumble in weakness. A few gas lanterns light the way as we step out onto a wooden bridge that creaks in pain as we cross. Beneath it lies what seems to be a bottomless chasm! A clothed skeletal arm hangs on for dear life to the side of a rock while a pick-ax and lantern lie on that very same rock. Some unfortunate miner lost his grip AND his arm, maybe the creator of this bridge. Another unfortunate miner hangs from some roots on the ceiling (We continue to go farther down into the earth), his skull baring a perpetual grin as his free arm points the way. Deeper and deeper into the earth we go the darker it gets. A bear can be heard snoring in its lair as several green eyes stare at us from some dark and "empty" holes. At the end of the path comes the breathing of some massive creature. A hallowed cavern glows a multitude of dark colors as we face a pool of swirling mystery. The smell of chlorine fills the air as water rings bounce along the walls and ceiling. Within this pool rests the hulking body of the Thunderbird sleeping in its massive nest. Although its children are nowhere in sight it sleeps here peacefully, proving that the legends are real once and for all. Every now and then the great bird opens its eyes and shifts them around before going back to sleep. Never once does it seem to care that its home is being intruded by uninvited house guests. A path leads up and out of the beast's lair, leading surprisingly up a pair of wooden stairs and into what appears to be a basement of some sort, filled with old belongings, crates, and barrels. A glimmer of light looms at the farthest point of the room, another pair of stairs leading up towards it. Stepping onto the stairs we find ourselves in the General Store! Turns out the shop's basement led all the way into the legendary lair of the Thunderbird! Perhaps the owner of the general store is feeding and taking care of this bird of legend.....

That massive walk is a one-way path only, leading from Big Thunder Mountain, all the way beneath a part of the river, parts of the Frontierland mainland, and back above the surface in the general store. Pretty cool to think that just below where you're walking is one of the biggest animatronics ever created by Disney, huh? And in a way it's kind of creepy too.....okay that's just wrong.....

Further along the trail past Riverboat Square is Nature's Wonderland, home to all the natural wonders of Frontierland. Although there are no shops and eateries there is an old shipping company, the home of Nature's Wonderland and the Frontierland Depot both in which host train-based attractions. The Frontierland Depot is a stop for the Disneyland Railroad while Nature's Wonderland is a mine train-based attraction (Although similar to Big Thunder Mountain the trains are very different in size and appearance) where we board a small train for a relaxing ride through the beautiful world of mother nature. Past wildlife, waterfalls, deserts, and mountains, this leisurely train ride is not to miss. And for those of you thrill seekers your train gets whisked back in time at one point, going back to the Ice Age! The Ice Age Diorama is one of the biggest dioramas in the world, featuring dramatic music, an impressive backdrop, and tons of animatronics and set pieces, you actually feel as if you're heading back in time. And the cool part about it is you aren't separated from the diorama by glass, you're actually going through it. Prehistoric life surrounds you on all sides. Be very careful around the cave lions and saber-toothed cats!


Cheerful orchestrated music emerges from the dense forest path located over by the Last Chance Outpost. Stepping beneath the railroad tracks we hear the thundering of a waterfall and the sounds of screams. A wild banjo player plucks away at his chords as the foliage becomes more tall and dense, shading us from the intense sunlight. Everything seems to be more cool and refreshing as lazy streams flow by and miniature houses carved into logs and mushrooms appear. The amazing scent of pine and redwood enters the air, reminding us greatly of the great outdoors. We have just entered the southern paradise and oasis that is Critter Country.

A box social also occurs on the streets of Frontierland every night, but I really don't want to go over that now. Frontierland is finally complete and I am very happy with the end result. So what do you all think about it?
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Please tell me what you all think, I worked really hard on that yesterday!

Up next we will have Critter Country, followed by Fantasyland, then Hollywoodland, and finally we will round it off with Tomorrowland. I thought I had a Toontown but I guess I didn't so don't expect to see it in the final product. I'm not a real fan of the land to begin with so I'm going to leave it out of my dream resort. Sorry to all you Toontown fans out there.

And now here is a list of everything that I have covered so far (Attractions):

1. Disneyland Railroad
2. Horse-Drawn Streetcar
3. Main Street Cinema
4. Penny Arcade
5. Tropical Serenade
6. Raging Spirits
7. Indiana Jones Adventure: Temple of the Nightmare King
8. The Jungle Cruise
9. Pirates of the Caribbean
10. The Wicked Wench
11. Lewis and Clark Riverboat
12. Nature's Wonderland (Ice Age Diorama Inside)
13. Rafts to Big Thunder Mountain
14. Miniature Train Museum
15. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad

And from that point on I have left off. I may be missing a few things but it has been a while! As of right now this park is probably a three hour venture which is NOT good. And not everyone visits attractions like the Penny Arcade or the Train Museum. That means that the lines at more attractive attractions (Indy and Pirates) will be REALLY long. This is exactly the problem that California Adventure and Hong Kong Disneyland faced when they first opened. However I still haven't covered the remaining lands so that will more than likely open up the amount of space that will make this park a TWO DAY venture. Sure Adventureland and Frontierland may not have all that much in them but with the possible expansion and the detail of the attractions within them, they can definitely take up a good portion of someone's day.

Also you may have noticed a lot of clones in my park (Which I am not a real fan of). However even though they may sound like all their companion attractions around the world, they are all VERY different. For instance Big Thunder Mountain (Which is held on the island like at Disneyland Paris) will feature all new scenes unique to this park, including the manifesting ghosts of miners and even an "actual" earthquake complete with falling rocks. So even though they may sound like exact clones they actually aren't.

I also forgot to mention that there is a lot of room for expansion in my park so I might add on attractions to various lands as the years go by. I may even add entire lands so keep an eye out for them!

After I finish Disneyland I am going to move onto the second theme park (Not telling you what it is just yet! :lookaroun). After that I will move onto the resort's one hotel, followed by its indoor shopping district.
 

CharlieD

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I know what it's like to want people to comment on your ideas and clearly you put a lot of time and effort into this so I've got to say that you're Thunder Mountain and Thunderbird story is brilliant and so original- especially the clever back entrance into the general store.

The amazing thing is that the whole Thunderbird story you didn't have to do, you could of just said what attractions there were and explained a little about them like many other imagineers on this forum (myself included), but you created a backstory and included the music which made the experience of reading it so much more immersive.

I've got so much inspiration from this and I'm just putting the finishing touches to my 3 park, water park, 4 hotel and entertainment district Mediterranean Disney resort- which I will post on WDWMagic as soon as my exams are over (June-July).

Congratulations on a brilliant Frontierland!
 

KingMickey

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Hey MEW!

Sorry, I'm just reading this now. I'm going to go back and read through the sections of your park. But from what I read from the Frontierland sections above, everything looks absolutely amazing. It looks like there is going to be so much detail, which is always a good thing! I can't wait.
 

Disneyson 1

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First of all, your ideas are fabulous, second, you put SO much detail and the RIGHT amount of story into things. Third, even though there are just words on the page and a youtube link opened, you feel as if you are actually IN this park. It's really and truly amazing, and you somehow (magically, I might say!) capture the feel of a park with words and music. It's... amazing!

One quick thing, though, I'm not sure you'd get great capacity for the Firebird walkthrough if it was only accessible by boat, which is a shame because it's so fantastic. In my opinion, IF the Firebird is the driving force of the haunting of Big Thunder, I'd actually put the cave's entrance at the END of BTMRR. So just as you would get off of the ride, you'd have a choice of either going through the walkthrough or directly to the General store, at the exit of the ride.

Better yet, perhaps to connect the 2 attractions even more you could have the ride end INSIDE of the cave (that SHOULD be how a runaway train should stop, not necessarily back in the station). I suppose that the "earthquakes" could be the screeches of the Firebird and she has accidentally made your car fall into the pit. You'd then have to continue down in order to meet the Firebird and exit through the store (of course, there's a bypass).

My $.2!
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm really looking forward to the other upcoming additions to my park.

I'll be sure to check out your resort Charlie once the time comes around!

Again thanks for all the wonderful comments guys!

I do have to say my favorite part of Frontierland was creating the Thunderbird cave. I was just thinking how cool it would be to have this mysterious cave of legend (Believed to be false) leading into the back room/basement of a place used by the public each and every day. It will be very claustrophobic thinking about it now, but it will be a real treat for those brave guests with a taste for adventure. I'm also wondering if the whole idea about having a giant animatronic creature beneath the ground where guests step may be disturbing to some. It is creepy when you think about it, but judging by the fact that guests probably won't know what is beneath them it won't really matter.

Critter Country's overview might begin tonight, tomorrow, or really whenever during the upcoming week. Just so this thread doesn't disappear from existence again I'm going to try to post as much as I can to keep it alive and well. I'm REALLY looking forward to finishing this MASSIVE project!
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Oops!

Sorry Disneyson I never got your comment (I posted mine before yours' I guess) so I will respond to it now.

First of all thanks for the nice comments!

Second thank you for suggesting to put the Thunderbird's lair at the exit of Big Thunder. I was considering that but thought that maybe it'd be better if guests saw it right away. But now that you mention it will be a much better idea to move it over to the exit. That way it will garner up more attention than it would near the entrance of the attraction. As a matter of fact there will be two options for guests after disembarking from their train. One path will lead to the left towards the queue and the rafts, and one path would lead into the Thunderbird's cave. The entrance (Which is very similar to Injun Joe's Cave in Disneyland) will lead into the walkthrough that I presented earlier.

Having the trains stop in the bird's lair might take away from the atmosphere just a little bit. The cave is a very quaint atmosphere (With the smell of chlorine! :lol:) and a deep groaning sound that you can hear in a deep dark hole in the earth. I can't really describe what the noise is it's just a really cool kind of sound. Also the whistling of the trains might take away something from it just a wee bit. This was an excellent idea that you gave me though!

Since the Thunderbird is the primary cause of Frontierland's problems I will definitely use the idea of the Thunderbird's screeching being the cause of the earthquakes within the mountain. Also the catacombs where it resides will grow extremely chilly as you progress deeper and deeper into the earth. In the rooms that don't have water (I have decided to add a room shortly after the nest and before the General Store basement that is filled with a maze of waterfalls, similar to that garden-area outside of the Disneyland Hotel) the walkthrough attraction will smell like earthy-dirt. Not to the point of completely stinking up the place though.

At night the Thunderbird's screeching can be heard coming from the mountain (Similar to the roar of the Abominable Snowman on the Matterhorn) every now and then (Not repeatedly) while cave paintings of the Thunderbird legend (The one with the golden eggs, foolish boy, giant nest, mountain, peak, Thunderbird, thunderstorm, fledglings, earthquake, and buffalo) will briefly be seen in a tunnel quickly traversed by the Big Thunder Mountain Mining Trains. Hopefully this will make guests want to come back and get a second look at whatever the heck it was. This will also be the darkest tunnel in the entire attraction and the room where the "earthquake" takes place. This ride will use some of Disney's roller coasters best qualities, including the launch system of California Screamin', the speed and drops of Expedition Everest (And legendary monster theme/basis), the same setting and vehicles of Big Thunder Mountain, and the excitement of Space Mountain.

Again sorry for skipping over your comment! :D
 

Disneyson 1

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^ Oh, it's fine! I was thinking that because this is really one of the best parts of the park that it should get some attention! I love the attention to the chlorine, it's truly a "Disney" smell... It kinda reminds me of the Virtual Magic Kingdom's secret caverns! The waterfalls are great, too. I'm a fountain junkie. And that's a great idea with the paintings. They'd also look great in the caves.

P.S Thanks for putting so much thought into your writing (sounds, sights, SMELLS), it's clearly not as haphazard as some of the writing on the boards...!
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Thanks for the nice compliments once again!

Anyways I think that Critter Country will be coming very soon. Expect to see many new and exciting attractions!
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Okay I'm thinking about having this song play (Quietly) in the Thunderbird's Cavern. I really love it and I think it fits the theme well. However I would like to hear your opinion on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN-XbdAZMSw

First of all Disney would have to pay Nintendo the rights for the song, which I'm sure wouldn't be all that much, judging by the fact it's only one song. Second of all it really makes you feel like you're in some hidden cove kept a secret from man. The only question I have now is should I have it or not.

Then there is always this song too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Sh5vv0c2Q

Should I leave the cave without sound or have one of those two songs playing? You all can be the judge of what to do.
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Thanks Kermit I like the Twilight Princess music better too. It will play very quietly in the background of the cave. However it will only be heard in the Thunderbird's nest.

Now I am going to come up with a playlist of all the songs you can hear in the background of Frontierland! They will all be lush orchestrations recorded and conducted by some famous guy. I don't know who this famous guy will be but I'm pretty sure you get the picture.

Follow this link to my channel then find the playlist under the playlist section.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MANEATINGWREATH
 

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