Down With Pixar!!!!!

[JCAEdge21]

Maybe it's just me, but I am against what seems to be the overtaking of Pixar in WDW, mainly the Studios. Don't get me wrong. I think the Nemo attraction at Epcot is great (I prefer the Tarzan show though) and Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin is awesome, but from what it sounds like, they're looking to completely change the Studios and "pixarize it". Why would they build an attraction that is very similar to one that already exists in WDW, not just in theme, but the ride itself? (Toy Story Mania vs. Space Ranger Spin). And I thought it was called Tomorrowland, not "Let's try to make ourselves as Pixar'y' as possible"land. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure little computerized characters have nothing to to with Disney, even though the companies have merged. A few attractions is fine, but when you're talking about building what is almost an exact clone of a previously built attraction (but for much more money), and also renaming a street, possibly an entire theme park after this company that does not provide any form of Disney magic or security, I think something has to be done. I know for sure Walt didn't have this in mind...

 

[Kman101]

I do think it's a tad bit of an overload but even without Pixar, Disney would have likely released several animated flicks and we all know THEY'D have attractions for them as well, so ... either way ... i think it keeps things fresh but they definitely have overdone it.

I mean, talk about overkill, seriously.

 

[kubfish]

I have no problem with Pixar or its movies. We hold onto the "old disney" but what characters are the kids watching today? My ds13, ds11, dd4 love Mickey and the old characters only because of us, surely not because anything Disney has done with them in the last 20 years.

Kids now see Toy Story-Buzz, Bugs, Monsters inc, (have not watched RAT yet) the same way that we watched the staple of Walt today.

They are growing up loving the Pixar characters. In the end...its always about the kids and the kid in me I think a mix is good. IMO MGM / DCA would be a perfect place for Pixar.

 

[DisneyDellsDude]

Ehh. They're ok attractions. (Nemo musical is outstanding though). I'd rather see original attractions being made. (Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Everest, ect...)

 

[ThinkTink721]

I have to say...I enjoy the Pixar movies! :wave:

 

[Texas84]

I have to confess I'm a traditionalist AND a Pixar fan. I'm so confused...

 

[DisJosh]

I think the reason Pixar goes over well with some of us that love classic Disney animation is the quality. Pixar is producing top notch films that meet and in my opinion exceed the standards set by the classics. I finally saw Ratatoullie this weekend and was blown away by the visuals and loved the story (made me want my own tiny chef). I assure you the same levels of creativity, hard work and love for what they are doing is being put forth by Pixars CG animators as was by those hand drawing and painting the masterpieces of past decades.

These aren't uninspired gag filled, fart joke spewing films with sub par animation. No offense to Dreamworks...I do enjoy those sorts of films as well.

Pixars releases are in essence what Disney animated features are and hopefully will always be about: amazing visuals (works of art) and stories that engage young and old alike.

So I say more power to Disney for incorporating the Pixar films into the parks, especially the Studios. Walt from what I know of the man was all about progress and yet nostalgic at the same time. This new generation of films does just that it embraces a new technology yet holds onto the core elements of the animated films that helped make Disney what it is.

That's my .02

 

[MickeyJman06]

i've seen a better Monsters Inc. ride, why dosen't pixar have their own land in the Studios, i also invented my own Monsters Inc. ride

(back on topic) i think there is starting to be a lack of Mickey rides since the wand is coming down

 

[scpergj]

I think the reason Pixar goes over well with some of us that love classic Disney animation is the quality. Pixar is producing top notch films that meet and in my opinion exceed the standards set by the classics. I finally saw Ratatoullie this weekend and was blown away by the visuals and loved the story (made me want my own tiny chef). I assure you the same levels of creativity, hard work and love for what they are doing is being put forth by Pixars CG animators as was by those hand drawing and painting the masterpieces of past decades.

These aren't uninspired gag filled, fart joke spewing films with sub par animation. No offense to Dreamworks...I do enjoy those sorts of films as well.

Pixars releases are in essence what Disney animated features are and hopefully will always be about: amazing visuals (works of art) and stories that engage young and old alike.

So I say more power to Disney for incorporating the Pixar films into the parks, especially the Studios. Walt from what I know of the man was all about progress and yet nostalgic at the same time. This new generation of films does just that it embraces a new technology yet holds onto the core elements of the animated films that helped make Disney what it is.

That's my .02

I have to agree here, especially with the part about Walt himself.

If any of you would remember the part of One Man's Dream that shows all of what Walt and the Imagineers invented to make their animated films better, you can see that he just wanted to make the best film possible. At the time, it was multi-plane cameras and hand drawn animation...but today, the best is hi end, multi-processor computers with terrabytes of storage running specialized software, to do the exact same thing.

Pixar's animation is awesome, and the faithfulness to the story matches very closely with what I see in the old Disney animation...just with a modern twist.

Pixar isn't the problem...being stuck in the 1930's is.

Kevin

 

[DisneyGigi]

While I don't like the idea of the rumored Disney Pixar Studios name change at all... because to me it will always be Disney MGM. I really do like the Disney-Pixar movies and enjoy the new attractions. (except The Seas with Nemo, I didn't care for it) :lookaroun

 

[JCAEdge21]

Ehh. They're ok attractions. (Nemo musical is outstanding though). I'd rather see original attractions being made. (Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Everest, ect...)

This is exactly what I mean. Amidst all of the pixar buildup, the imagineers built expedition everest, which i think blends in great with the disney atmosphere and feel. I'm just against turning classic/original disney into a pixar theme, and possibly forget the originality behind it.

i've seen a better Monsters Inc. ride, why dosen't pixar have their own land in the Studios, i also invented my own Monsters Inc. ride

(back on topic) i think there is starting to be a lack of Mickey rides since the wand is coming down

I agree completely. After all, it was all started by a mouse. If i didn't already know that, I'd say it was all started by a clownfish based on all of the publicity and concentration on pixar. That, or a little blue alien, even though stitch has nothing to do with pixar.

 

[kcnole]

Why would they build an attraction that is very similar to one that already exists in WDW, not just in theme, but the ride itself? (Toy Story Mania vs. Space Ranger Spin).

Tell me about it, why would they do something like this. I mean why build Expedition Everest when we already have Big Thunder Mountain? Why build Rockin Roller Coaster when we already have Space Mountain? Why did they build Star Tours when we already had Body Wars? Why did they build Horizons when they were already building SSE and WoM? Why did they build Aladdin's Magic Carpets when they already had Dumbo? (Ok, that one I'll give you.)

Pixar is Disney. I don't get the Pixar bashing. Would you rather they have done a Cinderella 3 ride? Pixar stuff is of much higher quality than Disney's own animation studios have made lately. Lasseter has done a much better job of work on park attractions than almost anybody else so far. Pixar has done nothing but help resuscitate the company and we all just bash them for it. If it weren't for the Pixar/Disney relationship Disney would have some quality issues right now.

 

[ohioguy]

well, it certainly looks as if Pixar is getting their own area of the Studios, and good thing, since it's their animated films that have been the moneymakers for Disney over the past decade. Like it or not, the public has spoken. I wish they would take the Monsters, Inc. Laugh Club out of TomorrowLand and place it squarely where it belongs at MGM. That said, I would see nothing wrong with CARS taking over the Indy Grand Prix Raceway (and Buzz Lightyear is fine in TomorrowLand).

Pixar IS now wholly a part of Disney,and we have to accept that. I do hope we see success with "The Princess and The Frog"; otherwise, it's curtains for hand drawn animation.

MGM has now found it's form and function...different lands based on different studios... if only the Disney folks would wake up and seize on the idea and theme correctly....

1)DISNEY'S HOLLYWOOD... current Boulevard area, Animation, Tower area.

2)PIXAR STUDIOS....lump most attractions here for Pixar

3)LUCASFILM STUDIOS.... Star Wars and Indiana Jones attractions

4)MUPPET STUDIOS... Muppets, Bear In The Big Blue House

5)ABC STUDIOS...The Power Rangers, Kyle XY, LOST, Hannah Montana,
and other ABC/ABC Family/ABC Kids/Disney Channel offerings.

 

[GenerationX]

Pixar has done nothing but help resuscitate the company and we all just bash them for it. If it weren't for the Pixar/Disney relationship Disney would have some quality issues right now.

This is an excellent point, kcnole! A head-to-head comparison of Pixar movies to Disney movies over the last 10 years would be embarrassing.

MGM has now found it's form and function...different lands based on different studios... if only the Disney folks would wake up and seize on the idea and theme correctly....

1)DISNEY'S HOLLYWOOD... current Boulevard area, Animation, Tower area.

2)PIXAR STUDIOS....lump most attractions here for Pixar

3)LUCASFILM STUDIOS.... Star Wars and Indiana Jones attractions

4)MUPPET STUDIOS... Muppets, Bear In The Big Blue House

5)ABC STUDIOS...The Power Rangers, Kyle XY, LOST, Hannah Montana,
and other ABC/ABC Family/ABC Kids/Disney Channel offerings.

This is a great idea, ohioguy! My biggest problem with the Studios is its lack of clear theming. This would solve that problem quite nicely.

 

[Jesùs_Carioca]

Meh...if it's any consolation, what was in place of the New "Toy Story Mania" area of MGM was ABC's "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" show anyways. As for a shift from a Disney ride to a Pixar one...mmmnot so much in that case.

I thought Pizza Planet was actually a very clever idea *sigh*

Space Ranger Spin was a good concept though, back when it came out. A Very good one, from what i can tell.

Monster's Inc. Laughing Floor, as corny as it may seem in essence, is actually not half bad at all... although i did have a big thing for TimeKeeper *sigh Robin Williams*

The whole zinger made in this thread of Tomorrowland seeming more like "PixarLand" though...miiiight be a bit too rash

Changing it to "the Seas with Nemo" was... a bit though, haha.

But what can I say? They were very very good movies, and in the focus of the times, good movies deserve a ride or two, no? Although, i can easilly agree with the thought pattern of "TOO MUCH Pixar." It could eeeaaasilly get out of hand, that is very very true.


I'm down with Ohioguy though when i say i'm PRAYING for "The Frog Princess" to be good....


...like...epic good...


..like... Hercules good...


...like...Aladin good...



Edit: oh, and for the record...i kindof like how MGM is so sporadically spread out and quasi-out of control with so many different themes and lack of defining "worlds" or "hubs." That's kindof what makes it feel like a Studio to me. Interchangeable, one "studio" has something totally different than the "studio" across the street from it.

 

[csmat99]

Tell me about it, why would they do something like this. I mean why build Expedition Everest when we already have Big Thunder Mountain? Why build Rockin Roller Coaster when we already have Space Mountain? Why did they build Star Tours when we already had Body Wars? Why did they build Horizons when they were already building SSE and WoM? Why did they build Aladdin's Magic Carpets when they already had Dumbo? (Ok, that one I'll give you.)

Pixar is Disney. I don't get the Pixar bashing. Would you rather they have done a Cinderella 3 ride? Pixar stuff is of much higher quality than Disney's own animation studios have made lately. Lasseter has done a much better job of work on park attractions than almost anybody else so far. Pixar has done nothing but help resuscitate the company and we all just bash them for it. If it weren't for the Pixar/Disney relationship Disney would have some quality issues right now.

I couldn't agree with you more. Pixar is what Disney animation would have been if Walt was still alive. Let's not forget Lasseter worked at Disney back in the day under some great people that drove home that the animation can be A+ but if there is no story the movie will fail. Pixar movies have very original stories that hit home with everyone.That is also why Disney couldn't let Pixar go to another studio. I agree Pixar should take over every area of MGM but they deserve a huge chunk of real estate.

 

[unkadug]

I just love adding this picture to threads like this!

 

[Pongo]

Yes, yes. Down with the company that has pulled in more money for Disney in the past years than the films that were actually made by the Walt Disney Animation Studios! Down with the shysters who have actually made enjoyable, successful, and award winning films!

And what's this deal about making rides based off of Disney movies? When did they start doing that?

 

[Pocamahontas]

I couldn't agree with you more. Pixar is what Disney animation would have been if Walt was still alive. Let's not forget Lasseter worked at Disney back in the day under some great people that drove home that the animation can be A+ but if there is no story the movie will fail. Pixar movies have very original stories that hit home with everyone.That is also why Disney couldn't let Pixar go to another studio. I agree Pixar should take over every area of MGM but they deserve a huge chunk of real estate.

You are sooo right! I mean I get that Pixar movies arn't the same as the old classics, but lately Disney is all about redoing what has already been done. The Cinderella 3 example is perfect in this case, and It's not what Walt wanted. He specifically said that he didn't want any sequels because he wanted to do it right the first time (not a direct quote). So if Pixar can accomplish the same priniples that Walt loved so much (and needlesstosay the rest of us) in a new form then what's the harm in that? They're movies still show us that magic is out there, and that even a little rat's (loved Ratatouille!) dreams can come true. And isn't that the point? Isn't that what we all love?

I say on with pixar, because they know what they're doing!

 

[JCAEdge21]

im really only against disney bringing in pixar to take over current disney attractions and theme parks and whatnot. if disney made a 5th park solely dedicated to pixar, id embrace it with open arms. im just not a big fan of the current parks being changed