Down With Pixar!!!!!

[Pongo]

im really only against disney bringing in pixar to take over current disney attractions and theme parks and whatnot. if disney made a 5th park solely dedicated to pixar, id embrace it with open arms. im just not a big fan of the current parks being changed

But the current Pixar attractions really didn't replace anything too poular to begin with.

Buzz -- If You Had Wings
Monsters, Inc. -- Timekeeper (popular for fanboys, seasonal in reality)
Toy Story Mania -- Who Wants to be a Millionaire (a show that died on television)
Seas with Nemo -- an outdated Seas pavilion
Nemo the Musical -- I never got to see Tarzan Rocks, but I hear it was good. But Nemo is the greatest show on WDW property (IMO), so the replacement fits.

If you're against the parks changing, you're going to the wrong parks. Disney parks will never be finished. Walt said it himself.

 

[Pocamahontas]

But the current Pixar attractions really didn't replace anything too poular to begin with.

Buzz -- If You Had Wings
Monsters, Inc. -- Timekeeper (popular for fanboys, seasonal in reality)
Toy Story Mania -- Who Wants to be a Millionaire (a show that died on television)
Seas with Nemo -- an outdated Seas pavilion
Nemo the Musical -- I never got to see Tarzan Rocks, but I hear it was good. But Nemo is the greatest show on WDW property (IMO), so the replacement fits.

If you're against the parks changing, you're going to the wrong parks. Disney parks will never be finished. Walt said it himself.

Touche.

 

[SpectroMan]

We also need to remember that even from the beginning of Disney parks, there has been a mode of creating attractions with popular movies as its inspiration. Peter Pan, Snow White, the Jungle Cruise, Frontierland and Adventureland were really based off the True-Life Adventure series, and they even named Disneyland's castle for the new, upcoming, popular movie Sleeping Beauty.

Why do we all freak out about Pixar being the vehicle for Disney's most beloved characters right now? Let's step back to the 90's: Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, Lion King, Aladdin. Pixar's movies today are the equivilant of that great time in animation.

Why do we not complain that there is too much Lion King in the theme parks? In fact there are 3 attractions based off that movie that have been in the parks. Saying that there is too much Lion King in the parks would be considered heresy.

Let's not complain about how great Pixar is doing with their movies. Like many have said before, every Pixar movie holds the same ideals that all the great classic Disney movies have held.

 

[tonythetigerasn]

Why would they build an attraction that is very similar to one that already exists in WDW, not just in theme, but the ride itself? (Toy Story Mania vs. Space Ranger Spin).

This is completely untrue. Midway Mania is themed to Toy Story characters (NOT buzz) playing midway games, while in BLSRS we are trying to save the universe. BLSRS is set in a toyish outer space, while TSMM is set in the world of the toys themselves. BLSRS moves through physical sets, while TSMM will rely on 3D projections. BLSRS has one setting, while TSMM will have many gameplay options and difficulty levels.

But they're almost the same. They both have Toy Story characters.

 

[JCAEdge21]

But the current Pixar attractions really didn't replace anything too poular to begin with.

Buzz -- If You Had Wings
Monsters, Inc. -- Timekeeper (popular for fanboys, seasonal in reality)
Toy Story Mania -- Who Wants to be a Millionaire (a show that died on television)
Seas with Nemo -- an outdated Seas pavilion
Nemo the Musical -- I never got to see Tarzan Rocks, but I hear it was good. But Nemo is the greatest show on WDW property (IMO), so the replacement fits.

If you're against the parks changing, you're going to the wrong parks. Disney parks will never be finished. Walt said it himself.

well to be honest, 4 out of the 5 that you listed (minus the seas) were 4 of my favorite attractions....:lookaroun

im just a fan of the current disney and not a big fan of change. who knows, maybe ill be posting a new thread entitled "LONG LIVE PIXAR!" in April when we see what develops.

 

[wbt06]

first off it drove me crazy that the op said walt would not be happy with pixar. all i can say is pick up a book and read or look him up on the internet. as others have posted he was all about new tec. Secondly, the parks will always change. Staples like peter pan and so on will more than likely stay becouse they are what whe have left of walt but everything in time will. 10 years from now all the nemo stuff will be gone and in its place will be what is popular durring that time. Third, the buzz ride is not based on toy story but based on the disney channel show about buzz. the show was never popular but they still have it becouse it is buzz.

just embrace the changes.

thats my .02 cents

(ps im tired so sorry about spelling)

 

[Fun2BFree]

Maybe it's just me, but I am against what seems to be the overtaking of Pixar in WDW, mainly the Studios. Don't get me wrong. I think the Nemo attraction at Epcot is great (I prefer the Tarzan show though) and Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin is awesome, but from what it sounds like, they're looking to completely change the Studios and "pixarize it". Why would they build an attraction that is very similar to one that already exists in WDW, not just in theme, but the ride itself? (Toy Story Mania vs. Space Ranger Spin). And I thought it was called Tomorrowland, not "Let's try to make ourselves as Pixar'y' as possible"land. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure little computerized characters have nothing to to with Disney, even though the companies have merged. A few attractions is fine, but when you're talking about building what is almost an exact clone of a previously built attraction (but for much more money), and also renaming a street, possibly an entire theme park after this company that does not provide any form of Disney magic or security, I think something has to be done. I know for sure Walt didn't have this in mind...

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[Master Yoda]

I agree lets get rid of Pixar. We need to completely remove all references to one of the most successful animation studios in history that Disney just paid billions for. What has Pixar really done? They have only created some of the best and most memorable animated characters in the last 20 years and for that they need to be wiped off the face the earth.

And what about that Mouse and his 4 buddies? Sure they were popular in the 30's and 40's but what have they done for us lately? We need to kick them out of the parks while we are at it. I mean come on Minnie Mickey how long have you two been dating now? It is coming up on 80 years now! What kind of example are you setting for the youth of today with your commitment issues! Just go ahead and pop the question already! For the love of god Donald put some pants on there are kids here! And Goofy pick a species will you! Are you a dog a human or what?

We need some of the great new characters that Disney has created to take the reigns at the parks like ummm uh Stitch. Yeah Stitch! He gets his own land at MK! Wait he gets the whole park! Just picture it, Snow White and her Stitch adventurers, Winnie the Stitch, HM featuring Stitch and his 626 happy haunts! Just imagine the possibilities with all of the other great animated films Disney has come out with in the last decade. With movies like Atlantis, Treasure Planet and Home on the range how could they go wrong!:lol:

 

[I-4Warrior]

Well... I was wondering what was going to be the next topic that catches the rage of the posters. Eisner is gone. The Wand is in the midst of being removed. Pixar! That's something to get needlessly frustrated over!

 

[Hakunamatata]

Not only that, but I'm pretty sure little computerized characters have nothing to to with Disney, even though the companies have merged.

Interesting comment considering that many of Disney's most popular characters were based on non-Disney stories. In 20 years, people will be saying that they cant believe that Disney is not using their core characters more. Characters such as Nemo, Stitch, the Robinsons, Ratawhateverhisnameis.

If the internet had been around when Disney got the rights to Pooh, Im sure threads would have been created bashing Disneys decision to market a yellow honey adicted bear.

 

[danipooh]

We also need to remember that even from the beginning of Disney parks, there has been a mode of creating attractions with popular movies as its inspiration. Peter Pan, Snow White, the Jungle Cruise, Frontierland and Adventureland were really based off the True-Life Adventure series, and they even named Disneyland's castle for the new, upcoming, popular movie Sleeping Beauty.

Why do we all freak out about Pixar being the vehicle for Disney's most beloved characters right now? Let's step back to the 90's: Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, Lion King, Aladdin. Pixar's movies today are the equivilant of that great time in animation.

Why do we not complain that there is too much Lion King in the theme parks? In fact there are 3 attractions based off that movie that have been in the parks. Saying that there is too much Lion King in the parks would be considered heresy.

Let's not complain about how great Pixar is doing with their movies. Like many have said before, every Pixar movie holds the same ideals that all the great classic Disney movies have held.

I agree completely!! It irritates me that no matter what the change, someone is going to be upset and complain about it. Some people just want Disney to stay exactly the same as it's always been. WDW is evolving with the times, as it should. People are still whining about Mr. Toad's Wild Ride being taken out and that was forever ago....get over it and embrace the present!!!

 

[hcswingfield]

I have enjoyed the Pixar movies, and appreciate the efforts to incorporate something new into the parks.

 

[dave2822]

Pixar IS Disney now ... their major animated films will keep rolling out through the Pixar name, so their theme park attractions will continue to be based off of these ... there is no use arguing about it

Interesting comment considering that many of Disney's most popular characters were based on non-Disney stories. In 20 years, people will be saying that they cant believe that Disney is not using their core characters more. Characters such as Nemo, Stitch, the Robinsons, Ratawhateverhisnameis.

If the internet had been around when Disney got the rights to Pooh, Im sure threads would have been created bashing Disneys decision to market a yellow honey adicted bear.

Exactly. Little Mermaid, BatB, Alladin, all based on other fairy tales, other characters. It could be said that these Pixar films have more original characters than the "Disney classics"

 

[paul436]

I don't have a problem at all with bringing Pixar to the Studios. After all, it was never just "Disney" Studios. It is Disney-MGM Studios. So, in essense, WDW is just swithing from one partner (MGM) to another (Pixar). I think that Pixar is more of a natural partner than MGM. The Disney/Pixar relationship is making some great movies that fit perfectly with my idea of what Disney is supposed to be. Great entertainment and fun for all ages!

 

[kcnole]

im just a fan of the current disney and not a big fan of change. who knows, maybe ill be posting a new thread entitled "LONG LIVE PIXAR!" in April when we see what develops.

Except the current disney isn't the same disney that opened in 1972 here in Florida. Things have changed over time as well. What you like about Disney right now is not what others of us grew up with. The parks have to change or else they stagnate and become stale. Just look over at Islands of Adventure for proof of that. When that park opened it was an amazing park, but only one ride has been added in over 7 years now. The park has to change, and its about to finally take a major change over the next few years. And you know what, many of the fanboys of Lost Continent (Myself included) are lamenting that change, yet I know that it needs to happen.

Change is necessary, Walt said it himself. The Park will constantly be changing. Some of those changes will be fantastic, some will sadly turn out to not be so great, and some of them will be neither great nor bad. But it needs to happen otherwise we'd all get bored and quit coming. Unfortunately we lose some nostalgia in the process. I greatly miss Mr. Toad, 20k, If You Had Wings, the original backlot tour, Mission to Mars, and Horizons. But they had to happen. Can you imagine how sad it would be if If You Had Wings was still in the park. I might ride it 15 times on a trip, but I'd be the only one.

 

[WISH4EE@WDW]

Jim Hill Media posted a blog about almost this same exact topic. You can read it here. The jist though is that Disney is still trying to justify to it's share holders the cost of Pixar.

From the few financial accounting classes I've taken: it seems to me that if they build attractions that are Pixar themed and the parks attendance increases or stays the same then they can write off percentages of the cost of acquisition to profits turned in the parks.

Personally, it doesn't matter to me. I like the Pixar movies and I like to see creative new rides. If that means that Remy, Mike Wazowski, and the other characters at the parks well then I'm ok with it. So long as the ends justify the means.

 

[dave2822]

Also let me add that Disney isn't just for adults, it's for kids too :lookaroun (at least I've heard)

And there is NO doubting the popularity of these movies and these attractions with children ... can't we give the children something? :shrug:

 

[beachclubbasics]

well, it certainly looks as if Pixar is getting their own area of the Studios, and good thing, since it's their animated films that have been the moneymakers for Disney over the past decade. Like it or not, the public has spoken. I wish they would take the Monsters, Inc. Laugh Club out of TomorrowLand and place it squarely where it belongs at MGM. That said, I would see nothing wrong with CARS taking over the Indy Grand Prix Raceway (and Buzz Lightyear is fine in TomorrowLand).

Pixar IS now wholly a part of Disney,and we have to accept that. I do hope we see success with "The Princess and The Frog"; otherwise, it's curtains for hand drawn animation.

MGM has now found it's form and function...different lands based on different studios... if only the Disney folks would wake up and seize on the idea and theme correctly....

1)DISNEY'S HOLLYWOOD... current Boulevard area, Animation, Tower area.

2)PIXAR STUDIOS....lump most attractions here for Pixar

3)LUCASFILM STUDIOS.... Star Wars and Indiana Jones attractions

4)MUPPET STUDIOS... Muppets, Bear In The Big Blue House

5)ABC STUDIOS...The Power Rangers, Kyle XY, LOST, Hannah Montana,
and other ABC/ABC Family/ABC Kids/Disney Channel offerings.

I would like to se an attraction based on Lucasflims ILM susidiary. Lucas was an innovator in the use of models and stop action photography, mixing models and matte paintings (much of SW Episode 4 was filmed in front of blue screens, the scenery is matte paintings) with live action and improving theater sound (his company created THX).

 

[Eyorefan]

Tell me about it, why would they do something like this. I mean why build Expedition Everest when we already have Big Thunder Mountain? Why build Rockin Roller Coaster when we already have Space Mountain? Why did they build Star Tours when we already had Body Wars? Why did they build Horizons when they were already building SSE and WoM? Why did they build Aladdin's Magic Carpets when they already had Dumbo? (Ok, that one I'll give you.)

Pixar is Disney. I don't get the Pixar bashing. Would you rather they have done a Cinderella 3 ride? Pixar stuff is of much higher quality than Disney's own animation studios have made lately. Lasseter has done a much better job of work on park attractions than almost anybody else so far. Pixar has done nothing but help resuscitate the company and we all just bash them for it. If it weren't for the Pixar/Disney relationship Disney would have some quality issues right now.

Yes! Thank you for saying this. :sohappy:

I don't get why Disney fans bash Pixar. Let's face it, Pixar saved Disney in a time when it couldn't score a hit with its own films. Pixar has kept Disney competive. Why do we have Monsters, Inc.; Toy Story and Nemo rides? Because I don't think that many people would get excited about a Brother Bear, The Wild or Chicken Little ride.

 

[Since1976]

Somehow Disney missed the boat in creating great dark ride attractions out of movies from its New Golden Age (1994 and on) and skipped directly to the Pixar movies of the late 90s.

I have no problem with Pixar. They make great movies -- and yes, I do consider them DISNEY movies -- and they are just as deserving of attractions in the parks.

I only wish that WDI would reach back to its movies of just a few years earlier and make actual rides -- not just stage shows -- out of them as well. It's amazing that ALADDIN, THE LION KING, BEAUTY & THE BEAST and others do not have their own SNOW WHITE/PETER PAN'S FLIGHT-style attractions!