Do you still feel like the FL expansion is missing something?

[jrriddle]

For my girl:
Giselle's cottage from Enchanted. Too bad about the licensing issues.
Rapunzel's Tower from the upcoming movie.
Hook's ship in Pixie Hollow (not sure if it fits thematically, I've avoided watching the movies).
For me:
Rip out the speedway and put in a clone of Mysterious Island.

 

[_Scar]

Woah, where'd you hear this Scar?

A CM who posts here, but lately I haven't seen him post :/

It was so random that I think there must be some truth to it :shrug:

For my girl:

Giselle's cottage from Enchanted. Too bad about the licensing issues.
Rapunzel's Tower from the upcoming movie.

Hook's ship in Pixie Hollow (not sure if it fits thematically, I've avoided watching the movies).

For me:

Rip out the speedway and put in a clone of Mysterious Island.

There are issues with Enchanted? Please explain?

 

[jrriddle]

A CM who posts here, but lately I haven't seen him post :/

It was so random that I think there must be some truth to it :shrug:





There are issues with Enchanted? Please explain?

My understanding is that they have to pay a small fortune to Amy Adams for her likeness. Hence not a lot of Enchanted merch or Giselle face character after the movie release despite the good reviews and decent box office the movie received.

 

[_Scar]

My understanding is that they have to pay a small fortune to Amy Adams for her likeness. Hence not a lot of Enchanted merch or Giselle face character after the movie release despite the good reviews and decent box office the movie received.

Do they have to or is Amy just being greedy? That sucks! I really think Enchanted was on par with the other 90s DAS movies, too.

 

[jrriddle]

Do they have to or is Amy just being greedy? That sucks! I really think Enchanted was on par with the other 90s DAS movies, too.

Not 100% sure, but I would guess it was the greedy agents and lawyers that wrote it into her contract. And yes i thought it was a good movie as well, plus watching Amy Adams for 2 hours is never a bad thing in my opinion.

 

[_Scar]

lol,- it's a great, great thing :lol:

Enchanted could of fit in new FLand just fine too... awww well

 

[Figment632]

Nothing on the scope of HP has ever been done before. So, we really don't know. :shrug:

This is false, the ride tech has never been done before but besides that there is nothing that impresive about HP imo. They are simply retheming two exhisting rides. The dark ride will be ground breaking and probaly awsoem. In the end it is one ride and one ride isn't going to effect WDW in the least bit.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

JTTCoE is no where near the level Potter will be.

As great as it looks, personally I'd rather not have that be the next big addition to DAK. I've got problems with it.

We shall see. I'm hyped for Potter, but it's being OVER stated. I think expectations are being set too high.

JTTCotE is Test Track only majorly updated. Nothing unique to it except the upgrades.

And Goofy, I heard Antarctica was being considered for DAK. :/

upgrades make it unique...:lookaroun:lol:


Antarctica? Never heard that. That's way out there. If they do want to do something it's going to be the vastly different MI/BK Hybrid

 

[SirGoofy]

We shall see. I'm hyped for Potter, but it's being OVER stated. I think expectations are being set too high.

Same for Journy, IMHO. The theming and queue are terrific, but I feel like the ride would be a real disappointment to a lot of people here who don't realize it's not really a thrill ride.

 

[Figment632]

Same for Journy, IMHO. The theming and queue are terrific, but I feel like the ride would be a real disappointment to a lot of people here who don't realize it's not really a thrill ride.

Well it is a thrill ride in the same sence that TT or Dino is :shrug:

 

[SirGoofy]

Well it is a thrill ride in the same sence that TT or Dino is :shrug:

Eh, I'd say it's less than Dino, maybe a little less than TT.

And if what was rumored is true, and WDW wouldn't get the full volcano, I'd really rather get something different than a Journey clone.

 

[Blueliner]

This is slightly off-topic, but this weekend I went to Disneyland for the first time ever (after dozens of trips to WDW over the past 10-15 years).

I could spend a lot of time comparing California's Disneyland Park to Florida's Magic Kingdom, but where Disneyland Park clearly stood out to me was in the theming and the number of attractions (specifically the dark rides) in Fantasyland. The heart of Fantasyland in California, while relatively compact, really outshines Florida. The additional dark rides and the heavily themed facades really blew me away.

I welcome the Fantasyland expansion in Florida, and I'll be excited to see how the area is expanded and transformed. Even though the facades for Peter Pan, Philharmagic, and It's a Small World will remain, I think that if the new areas are built relatively consistent with the concept art, the Florida Fantasyland will really pick up the vibe of the California Fantasyland. That will be a great thing.

I don't think we should dismiss out of hand the appeal of a few walk-throughs (or other alternatives to a pure ride) in Florida's new Fantasyland. I thought the walk-through in Sleeping Beauty's castle was a nice little diversion, and I liked the details in the theming. Admittedly, I'm a "ride" guy, and I think that the "home-run ball" in the Florida Fantasyland expansion would be to add one or two dark rides to what already is planned. These additional rides do not need to be technologically advanced; they just need to be well-themed and be there to provide some balance and capacity.

From a purely selfish standpoint, I would much prefer to see an Indiana Jones ride added to Florida's Adventureland before any additional "big" rides go into Fantasyland or any of the other three parks. My wife humored me as we repeatedly gravitated toward Adventureland this weekend to pull fastpasses for Indiana Jones. That ride literally fits like a glove in Adventureland, and the length (meaning distance, not time) of the queue truly enhances the experience. I felt like I was re-living the scenes of Raiders of the Lost Ark as we wound our way through the dig sites and caves. The queue really built the anticipation for the ride and also made you feel more like a participant in the adventure instead of just a spectator. I think Everest is comparable, but not quite as immersive. Moreover, the temple was visible from the Jungle Cruise, and the skippers added some references to their spiel. Now that's what I call synergy!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Same for Journy, IMHO. The theming and queue are terrific, but I feel like the ride would be a real disappointment to a lot of people here who don't realize it's not really a thrill ride.

Which is why it'll be different if it finally makes it's way here.

Eh, I'd say it's less than Dino, maybe a little less than TT.

And if what was rumored is true, and WDW wouldn't get the full volcano, I'd really rather get something different than a Journey clone.

Which, is a good thing.


THough, I would not complain if we got a whole MI Land in DAK.

This is slightly off-topic, but this weekend I went to Disneyland for the first time ever (after dozens of trips to WDW over the past 10-15 years).

I could spend a lot of time comparing California's Disneyland Park to Florida's Magic Kingdom, but where Disneyland Park clearly stood out to me was in the theming and the number of attractions (specifically the dark rides) in Fantasyland. The heart of Fantasyland in California, while relatively compact, really outshines Florida. The additional dark rides and the heavily themed facades really blew me away.

I welcome the Fantasyland expansion in Florida, and I'll be excited to see how the area is expanded and transformed. Even though the facades for Peter Pan, Philharmagic, and It's a Small World will remain, I think that if the new areas are built relatively consistent with the concept art, the Florida Fantasyland will really pick up the vibe of the California Fantasyland. That will be a great thing.

I don't think we should dismiss out of hand the appeal of a few walk-throughs (or other alternatives to a pure ride) in Florida's new Fantasyland. I thought the walk-through in Sleeping Beauty's castle was a nice little diversion, and I liked the details in the theming. Admittedly, I'm a "ride" guy, and I think that the "home-run ball" in the Florida Fantasyland expansion would be to add one or two dark rides to what already is planned. These additional rides do not need to be technologically advanced; they just need to be well-themed and be there to provide some balance and capacity.

Agreed. It will certainly help the thematics. I just wish there were attractions, too.

 

[Figment632]

Eh, I'd say it's less than Dino, maybe a little less than TT.

And if what was rumored is true, and WDW wouldn't get the full volcano, I'd really rather get something different than a Journey clone.

Agreed! Ireally wish they would do fire mountain in AL with the hybrid coaster concept.

 

[RSoxNo1]

For my girl:
Giselle's cottage from Enchanted. Too bad about the licensing issues.
Rapunzel's Tower from the upcoming movie.
Hook's ship in Pixie Hollow (not sure if it fits thematically, I've avoided watching the movies).
For me:
Rip out the speedway and put in a clone of Mysterious Island.

Tommorrowland Speedway does take up a huge footprint, but it has a huge appeal to the pre-teen age group. The argument for removing it is that it's relatively common fair for an amusement park. As for your other ideas, conceptually they may work, but an expansion the size of Mysterious Island should be placed elsewhere. After the size/scope of the Fantasyland expansion, the Magic Kingdom becomes less of a priority for expansion as the other parks.

A CM who posts here, but lately I haven't seen him post :/

It was so random that I think there must be some truth to it :shrug:





There are issues with Enchanted? Please explain?

My understanding is that they have to pay a small fortune to Amy Adams for her likeness. Hence not a lot of Enchanted merch or Giselle face character after the movie release despite the good reviews and decent box office the movie received.

I have heard similar things about licensing problems with Amy Adams/Enchanted.

 

[_Scar]

Antarctica? Never heard that. That's way out there. If they do want to do something it's going to be the vastly different MI/BK Hybrid

Well, not from what I hear. I think Antarctica could be a huge hit... nice cold weather and getting out of that Florida sun.... heaven.

All I know is that's being considered on a piece of land not being used as of right now, so no Dinorama removal either.

This is false, the ride tech has never been done before but besides that there is nothing that impresive about HP imo. They are simply retheming two exhisting rides. The dark ride will be ground breaking and probaly awsoem. In the end it is one ride and one ride isn't going to effect WDW in the least bit.

Rethemeing the prexisting rides? Err, Harry Potter isn't replacing anything... and you can't "retheme" the ride system... 1) it doesn't have a theme in the first place 2) retheme means it once had a theme and now it is being changed, so go back to 1

And we'll see about that one ride and its very own land. :animwink: It will def draw crowds, and probably away from DHS/DAK.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Well, not from what I hear. I think Antarctica could be a huge hit... nice cold weather and getting out of that Florida sun.... heaven.

All I know is that's being considered on a piece of land not being used as of right now, so no Dinorama removal either.



Rethemeing the prexisting rides? Err, Harry Potter isn't replacing anything... and you can't "retheme" the ride system... 1) it doesn't have a theme in the first place 2) retheme means it once had a theme and now it is being changed, so go back to 1

And we'll see about that one ride and its very own land. :animwink: It will def draw crowds, and probably away from DHS/DAK.

Bolded, and in order...

You mean a indoor land? This is getting harder and harder to believe, sorry.

Camp Minnie/Mickey begs to differ...for the most part.

Dinorama was never slated for removal, no matter how much people hate and misunderstand it.:lookaroun:lol:

 

[_Scar]

Bolded, and in order...

You mean a indoor land? This is getting harder and harder to believe, sorry.

Camp Minnie/Mickey begs to differ...for the most part.

Dinorama was never slated for removal, no matter how much people hate and misunderstand it.:lookaroun:lol:

No, but if the rumor was true then obviously it would phold the arctic animals... and it would be cold :lol:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

No, but if the rumor was true then obviously it would phold the arctic animals... and it would be cold :lol:

Why, we can't put the polar bears outside?:lookaroun:lol:

Well, it's a interesting RUMOR, I give it that.

 

[DisneyCanadian]

I don't think it's fair to judge whether or not the FL expansion is missing anything once something is built. It doesn't have to be finished, but once something is completed we can have a feel for where it's headed. At that point, I think it's fair to decide whether anything is missing or not.

Just my two cents.