"Do not disturb" signs being removed from resort rooms

Starlight67

Well-Known Member
At Disney? Did you have both the deadbolt and security door guard engaged? Did you ignore repeated knocks on your door? Did he bypass both to enter?

Honestly I don't even remember if there was a deadbolt (was at Port Orleans FQ), I guess probably, but I didn't use it. I just had the regular lock engaged. I was sick and sleeping so I did just ignore the knock and whatever he said from outside of the door. Just figured it was housekeeping and they would come back. So after I didn't respond to the knocks is when he used his key to get in.
 

LAKid53

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Premium Member
Honestly I don't even remember if there was a deadbolt (was at Port Orleans FQ), I guess probably, but I didn't use it. I just had the regular lock engaged. I was sick and sleeping so I did just ignore the knock and whatever he said from outside of the door. Just figured it was housekeeping and they would come back. So after I didn't respond to the knocks is when he used his key to get in.

By regular lock you mean the deadbolt, not this?

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The resort doors have several lock types. An electronic type lock for the handle (and hope that battery never dies - it happened to us) that you use your MB for and then two mechanical locks - the deadbolt (the latch you twist to engage) and the security door guard picture I provided. I know Housekeeping has some type of key card they use to enter your room. But I guess maintenance has a key. That's how the guys were able to enter our room to replace the handle lock when the battery had died while we were in the park.
 

Walt d

Well-Known Member
I never forgo Mousekeeping... I want a clean room when I return from the parks or pool. Problem is sometimes or most of the time that happens late in the day and we are already back chilling in the room and don't want to be disturbed so we put out the sign. Based on the info floating around if you forgo the Mousekeeping it will now be required that a Disney employee enter their hotel room at least once a day to ensure guest safety. Now if Mousekeeping can't make it to my room in 8 hours and they come knocking on my door late in the afternoon that will be a problem.
Hay deevo are we not mice, spud?
 

LAKid53

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Deadlock! That's what I was talking about earlier and couldn't figure out what it was called. Thanks Starlight 67! Does anyone know if they removed those from the rooms because my husband and I always used those when we were in our room. Also I just want to put this out there because I did read this a few days ago but I read an online news article on this subject and when I read some of the comments, one poster said they knew some lawyers as friends, acquaintances, whatever--and that they'd heard that someone's already planning a lawsuit over this. They didn't say much but they alluded to that they all live in or around the Orlando area and that they (the user) didn't want to say much about it because it hadn't been mentioned in the press yet. They stated the only reason they were mentioning it is because they were curious as to what kind of response they'd get and plus nobody would know who they were on those message boards so to them it was okay to post that much. Obviously there's no way to tell whether this poster was telling the truth or not but if they were, then that's exactly what I was talking about in earlier posts--that something like that would happen eventually. Don't know if they'd win but people have sued for more idiotic stuff in the past. But that poster sure did get a lot of responses though, it was interesting what some of the comments were. But I thought I'd pass that along.

The only thing that has been removed from the rooms are the Do Not Disturb signs. Both mechanical locks are still on the door - the deadbolt (the lock you twist to engage) and the security door guard (the thing that's like a chain). Just use these when you are in your room - you'll be fine. Disney isn't going to break into your room while you've got these locks on.

While this change may or may not be related to Las Vegas, it was also done because guests were leaving the Do Not Disturb sign on 24/7 The entire length of their stay, preventing Disney from servicing their room.
 

Starlight67

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While this change may or may not be related to Las Vegas, it was also done because guests were leaving the Do Not Disturb sign on 24/7 The entire length of their stay, preventing Disney from servicing their room.

Quote from the said 'security checker' when he came in and I asked why they were doing this, 'Ever since Las Vegas shooting we are required to check every room on property every day.' So at least according to him it is a direct response to that.
 

LAKid53

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Someone's going to sue, for what?

Good luck, because you're going yo have to get past this:

509.092 Public lodging establishments and public food service establishments; rights as private enterprises.—Public lodging establishments and public food service establishments are private enterprises, and the operator has the right to refuse accommodations or service to any person who is objectionable or undesirable to the operator....

And this:

509.101 Establishment rules; posting of notice; food service inspection report; maintenance of guest register; mobile food dispensing vehicle registry.—(1) Any operator of a public lodging establishment or a public food service establishment may establish reasonable rules and regulations for the management of the establishment and its guests and employees; and each guest or employee staying, sojourning, eating, or employed in the establishment shall conform to and abide by such rules and regulations so long as the guest or employee remains in or at the establishment. Such rules and regulations shall be deemed to be a special contract between the operator and each guest or employee using the services or facilities of the operator.

 

Dole Whip Happy Hour

Active Member
While this change may or may not be related to Las Vegas, it was also done because guests were leaving the Do Not Disturb sign on 24/7 The entire length of their stay, preventing Disney from servicing their room
This confuses me. They start a program, or a trial of a program for people to opt out of housekeeping. Then give those people a gift card/pay those people as an incentive not to get housekeeping. Then they have to hire additional staff to do these checks/searches on those people who have opted out. I would assume it would be more expensive for the additional security staff (could be wrong) , in addition to the gift money they are giving the guests. So why are they encouraging people to not get housekeeping ? If there are more people getting housekeeping, they wouldn't need as many searches...or did they start the non housekeeping thing to save money for the additional security people? It come down to Disney is paying guests to search their rooms, knowing they will annoy many of them while doing it.. Confused
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
This confuses me. They start a program, or a trial of a program for people to opt out of housekeeping. Then give those people a gift card/pay those people as an incentive not to get housekeeping. Then they have to hire additional staff to do these checks/searches on those people who have opted out. I would assume it would be more expensive for the additional security staff (could be wrong) , in addition to the gift money they are giving the guests. So why are they encouraging people to not get housekeeping ? If there are more people getting housekeeping, they wouldn't need as many searches...or did they start the non housekeeping thing to save money for the additional security people? It come down to Disney is paying guests to search their rooms, knowing they will annoy many of them while doing it.. Confused

Which takes more time... checking on a room, or doing housekeeping?

Then ask yourself again...
 

Leigh51

Member
Why? Nothing really changes. Sign goes from Do not Disturb to Room Occupied. If you are getting housekeeping that’s the entrance for the day and that already happens. If you chose not to get housekeeping it already says that they may enter. It’s a safety thing because I can tell you as a hotelier people do have accidents, medical emergencies and some do die in your rooms and you need to check people for safety reasons. And after Vegas you want to lessen the chance of somebody setting up something like that.

So really, no big change here. And a bit of advice, even without housekeeping and nobody entering your room, lock valuables in the safe and put everything away. There are thiefs everywhere, even Disney World, and it is impossible to prevent every attack they came up with. Example, there was a thief that climbed 18 stories outside the to find open patio doors to enter rooms. And in my other job as forensic neuropsychologist I worked on his case so trust me it’s true and the thief will try anything.
 

Dole Whip Happy Hour

Active Member
Which takes more time... checking on a room, or doing housekeeping?

Then ask yourself again...

Yea, it takes less time to do a room check compared to housekeeping.

Keep in mind there have been people that didn't get housekeeping before this without being paid anything and employees didn't do anything because of it.
Disney is now paying those people $10 a day per room for more work involved, cause now they are having those rooms checked by security staff.

Disney is paying $10 for each guest room they search per day, and they still need the housekeeping staff doing the rooms for people that are not going to opt out. So if room checkers are doing maybe 6-7 rooms an hour, that is 60-70 dollars an hour plus new employees wages. I do not know how long it takes housekeeping to do a room, two or three an hour? So it maybe $40 an hour VS two-three extra hours of housekeeping hourly wages, give or take? I could be wrong, but I am going by the assumption that the new security people are getting paid more than a mousekeeper, are full time with whatever benefits Disney pays. Also assuming they needed to hire/promote people to be supervisors (which cost more as well) and manage this new area/expanded area of employees across all the resorts. Could they really be saving that much? just saying...how much does a housekeeper make at Disney that would make this worth while? It doesn't sound like a lot of savings. but I am making lot of assumptions here, and maybe my thought process is off kilter, maybe the actual numbers crunch it out...
 

Starlight67

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I didn't get the sense that these 'security checkers' were any sort of professional security staff. My impression is that they just pulled a regular baggage guy (or whatever random resort duty) to go from room to room and look around for seven seconds. Not sure that this is a case of needing to hire new staff to do the checks. Might have just added this duty to existing employees job descriptions.
 

jaklgreen

Well-Known Member
I didn't get the sense that these 'security checkers' were any sort of professional security staff. My impression is that they just pulled a regular baggage guy (or whatever random resort duty) to go from room to room and look around for seven seconds. Not sure that this is a case of needing to hire new staff to do the checks. Might have just added this duty to existing employees job descriptions.

And if they are just having any staff go into the rooms, what kind of screening are they doing? The safes are not big enough to lock up everything. Laptops do not fit for example. The more people entering the room, the more of a chance that they see it as an opportunity to snatch something. Frankly if I was a cast member and this was not in my normal scope of duty, I would not want to be put in the situation of entering the rooms for this crazy(safety) check.
 

Beacon Joe

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Quote from the said 'security checker' when he came in and I asked why they were doing this, 'Ever since Las Vegas shooting we are required to check every room on property every day.' So at least according to him it is a direct response to that.

If that's the reasoning they claim is behind these checks... sigh. I am not even going to begin to address how comically ineffective this bit of security theatre truly is.
 

Starlight67

Well-Known Member
And if they are just having any staff go into the rooms, what kind of screening are they doing? The safes are not big enough to lock up everything. Laptops do not fit for example. The more people entering the room, the more of a chance that they see it as an opportunity to snatch something. Frankly if I was a cast member and this was not in my normal scope of duty, I would not want to be put in the situation of entering the rooms for this crazy(safety) check.

I think Housekeeping Staff would have a much easier time stealing -what with that cart to hide things in. 'Security Checker' guy has nothing with him. So would probably seem obviously suspicious if he was coming out of the rooms with a boatload of tablets and laptops in his arms.:greedy:
 

jaklgreen

Well-Known Member
I think Housekeeping Staff would have a much easier time stealing -what with that cart to hide things in. 'Security Checker' guy has nothing with him. So would probably seem obviously suspicious if he was coming out of the rooms with a boatload of tablets and laptops in his arms.:greedy:

Yeah but people are opportunists. Have you walked around the resorts in the middle of the day? The value and moderates have plenty of areas that people do not walk through unless their room is there. And they don't need a boatload, just 1 to ruin someone's vacation.
 

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