Disney's Streaming Services: Disney+ (and Hulu, ESPN+, Star, & hotstar)

Phroobar

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mary2013

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Remember when the Simpsons where a family in Springfield that got into wacky and stupid situations? No? Me either. They treat the Simpsons like they do the Muppets and never let them be them. They only reason they do these shorts is to remind us Disney owns them.
How are these any different than the Treehouse of Horror episodes?
 

Wendy Pleakley

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Yeah. I kinda love the shorts. They aren’t “canon” for the show but just fun. And realistically they are still making full seasons of “normal” episodes if these shorts aren’t your thing.

Yeah, a 10-minute short is its' own thing and isn't reflective of the franchise as a whole at all.

It's not even unusual for ANY show to do a random fantasy episode outside of the regular canon.

Back in the day Roseanne for example did several such episodes, such as the one where they were on Gilligan's Island.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Remember when the Simpsons where a family in Springfield that got into wacky and stupid situations? No? Me either. They treat the Simpsons like they do the Muppets and never let them be them. They only reason they do these shorts is to remind us Disney owns them.
If Disney cancelled the regular season and only had these shorts you’d have a point. But they didn’t so you’re hating on something that many enjoy for no reason other than to hate.

Basically don’t like them then just ignore them and watch the regular season episodes.
 

Phroobar

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If Disney cancelled the regular season and only had these shorts you’d have a point. But they didn’t so you’re hating on something that many enjoy for no reason other than to hate.

Basically don’t like them then just ignore them and watch the regular season episodes.
I'm not hating on it. The Simpsons are pretty much a zombie franchise. Disney has only used them to promote popular franchises like Star Wars, Marvel, b-list celebrities and even their D+. I guess that is what happens when your the c-list acquired franchise.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I'm not hating on it. The Simpsons are pretty much a zombie franchise. Disney has only used them to promote popular franchises like Star Wars, Marvel, b-list celebrities and even their D+. I guess that is what happens when your the c-list acquired franchise.
First there are many fans of the Simpsons who have claimed it was a "zombie franchise" long before Disney took them over. But for being one of the longest running series on television you're going to get stale at some point to certain set fans, while others still enjoy it.

Also these are not the first shorts done with the Simpsons. Back in 2012 Fox put out "The Longest Daycare" that ran in front of Ice Age: Continental Drift. So these are not anything new to the Simpsons franchise.

As a follow up to that short Disney put out "Playdate with Destiny" in 2020 it ran in front of Onward but quickly moved to D+ for obvious reasons, nothing to do with promoting anything other than itself.

And with the two collaboration shorts with Billie Eilish and Andrea Bocelli, and I wouldn't call Billie a B-list celebrity nor Bocelli.

Anyways I get your opinion, but I find these now 8 shorts are hardly Disney ONLY using Simpsons for promotional purposes. Again the series is still on the air, and has been as of earlier this year renewed for at least 2 more seasons, surpassing over 800 episodes.
 

DCBaker

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"Hulu with Live TV is expanding its roster of TV channels.

The Disney-owned virtual MVPD says that it will add local PBS stations, PBS Kids, and Magnolia Network to its core live TV lineup.

The PBS stations and PBS Kids in particular are a substantial addition to the lineup, with PBS stations effectively filling out the lineup of major broadcast networks. Magnolia, meanwhile, builds on the current lifestyle programming, which includes HGTV."

Full article below.

 

MisterPenguin

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Peabody Awards 2023 Winners.

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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More of that "to sell or not to sell Hulu" pressure in that article. You think Disney wants all of Hulu just for ad money?
It has a robust ad-selling tech already that generates a lot of money.

Funny, the article calls Hulu an albatross and then praises the $3B dollars in brings in with ad money.

Also, most of what is Hulu is integrated with D+ international as the Star portal within D+.

Rip that out and Disney will have to charge less for D+ internationally.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
It has a robust ad-selling tech already that generates a lot of money.

Funny, the article calls Hulu an albatross and then praises the $3B dollars in brings in with ad money.

Also, most of what is Hulu is integrated with D+ international as the Star portal within D+.

Rip that out and Disney will have to charge less for D+ internationally.
Also the DOMESTIC D+ ad-tier, even unbundled, runs on Hulu tech.
 

BrianLo

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It has a robust ad-selling tech already that generates a lot of money.

Funny, the article calls Hulu an albatross and then praises the $3B dollars in brings in with ad money.

Also, most of what is Hulu is integrated with D+ international as the Star portal within D+.

Rip that out and Disney will have to charge less for D+ internationally.

I don't think Star would actually be very impacted. There would still be content licensing deals for what Hulu would actually produce, which is kind of still limited. For example we don't have Handmaid's Tale on Star here.

FX/Searchlight wouldn't be going anywhere, which on its own would still go under the Star label internationally. Unless Disney really wants to go back towards licensing out their general adult entertainment overseas. Not really a strategy I see Iger fully employing.
 

BrianLo

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Handmaids Tale (Ending), Solar Opposites, Only Murders in the Building, The Kardashians (?I think) seem to be the only current running Hulu shows I've even heard of that would be lost in a theoretical Hulu deal.

I'm not sure Hulu as a content label is actually attractive to Comcast.

-The value for them would be the live service.
-Potentially sneaking in apathetic subscribers into a combined Peacock/Hulu - doubling their Peacock subscriber count and slowly weaning Hulu off whatever window of licensing agreements FX/20th would have to probably adhere to as part of the deal.
-The ad platform.

Disney doesn't really lose much of anything in the process. Yes, Hulu revenue gooses their streaming numbers, but they'd be fully capable of creating a US based Star overnight and the 20+ billion dollar deal would surely stave off Wall Street from the lost Hulu revenue.
-They'd also still make a good deal of licensing money from Hulu for their FX etc. content, until it was all shifted to D+. I'd imagine that would happen over 3-5 years.

I still don't think it's very likely this will go the way of Comcast. But if they want to pay for it, I also feel like Bob is savvy enough to let it go.
 

Elijah Abrams

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In the Parks
Yes
I’m not going to provide a source, in order to prevent judgement of said source, but I read some articles, and they mentioned in a paragraph or two that most (if not some) investors are rooting for Disney to sell off Hulu.
 

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