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[MisterPenguin]

Next On Disney+: December 2020

dmedmedia.disney.com

WARNING: Nutcracker and the Four Realms premiers tomorrow. It is... not good.

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It majorly bombed at the Box Office.​

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Rotten Tomato Fresh: 32%. Critics rating: 51%. Audience rating: 53%.​

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IMDB audience: 55%​

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Metacritic: 39%​

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You're welcome.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Next On Disney+: December 2020

dmedmedia.disney.com

WARNING: Nutcracker and the Four Realms premiers tomorrow. It is... not good.

​

It majorly bombed at the Box Office.​

​

Rotten Tomato Fresh: 32%. Critics rating: 51%. Audience rating: 53%.​

​

IMDB audience: 55%​

​

Metacritic: 39%​

​

You're welcome.

Funny, the "New for December" list doesn't mention Mulan, since, I guess, it's considered to already be on D+. So... "free" Mulan starts tomorrow.

Just a reminder - Mulan will be free on Disney+ starting tomorrow.

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[Archie123]

I assume they'll be VOD, not free.

They will be free.

 

[doctornick]

I assume they'll be VOD, not free.

Wonder Woman is going to be free and this seems like the same plans so...

It’s possible that Disney might bite the bullet and do the same with their movies, especially smaller ones (after all, Soul is going to D+ for free) but I still think they’ll be very reluctant to put the MCU movies on Disney+ first and would rather hold out for theaters.

I think Warner is doing this more to bolster HBO Max than as a business model for theatrical releases; Disney+ has had more success so it would be less in need of such big gestures.

 

[BrianLo]

They will be free.

Wonder Woman is going to be free and this seems like the same plans so...

It’s possible that Disney might bite the bullet and do the same with their movies, especially smaller ones (after all, Soul is going to D+ for free) but I still think they’ll be very reluctant to put the MCU movies on Disney+ first and would rather hold out for theaters.

I think Warner is doing this more to bolster HBO Max than as a business model for theatrical releases; Disney+ has had more success so it would be less in need of such big gestures.

Well I take back what I said. That’s kind of crazy. I realize it bolsters subscribers, but otherwise Warner is throwing away a lot of money from sheer impatience.

Disney, while having done the same, still seems to be cost calculated. Warner is throwing away potentially 2 billion dollars on early access marketing.

I will 100 percent see a movie in theatre over VOD, but I won’t over free.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well I take back what I said. That’s kind of crazy. I realize it bolsters subscribers, but otherwise Warner is throwing away a lot of money from sheer impatience.

Disney, while having done the same, still seems to be cost calculated. Warner is throwing away potentially 2 billion dollars on early access marketing.

I will 100 percent see a movie in theatre over VOD, but I won’t over free.

Its limited "free", available for only 30 days and you don't actually "own" meaning it won't be in the catalog on HBO Max after the 30 days.

After the 30 days on HBO Max it'll continue through its normal theatrical run, go do the normal post theater runs like VOD and digital purchase, and then finally back on streaming like 6 months later or something.

 

[Ldno]

Well I take back what I said. That’s kind of crazy. I realize it bolsters subscribers, but otherwise Warner is throwing away a lot of money from sheer impatience.

Disney, while having done the same, still seems to be cost calculated. Warner is throwing away potentially 2 billion dollars on early access marketing.

I will 100 percent see a movie in theatre over VOD, but I won’t over free.

They said the theatrical run is meant to payback the agents and studios in regards to the theaters while also helping and reach the majority of consumers who can’t see the movie because of their local restrictions. Meaning I can go see this at the Alamo draft house and then watch it at home later on. Either way ATT is getting their money.

Add on the cherry on top that Wonder Woman will be the first 4K movie available to stream on the platform and it’s a huge win, who cares if it’s only available for 30 days, most people don’t even watch it that many times, but it will put pressure on Disney also since they were considering on releasing their bigger budgeted films VOD same as Mulan pricing (29.99) so who knows if they will bend the knee and just release Black Widow in the same fashion.

 

[Giss Neric]

So Avengers Endgame is truly the last theater event that we have experienced eh?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Cassian Andor 'Rogue One' Prequel Series Begins Filming

Rogue One star Diego Luna, who will be returning to his role as Cassian Andor for the upcoming Disney+ series has provided an update.

thedisinsider.com

 

[NateD1226]

 

[MisterPenguin]

Article that says it has sources and doesn't quote said sources and is full of the speculation that has been going on here for a year is just full of it.

And to further muddy the waters, you're quoting a Tweet which links to the speculative article that has a clickbait title. At lest the article entitled itself in the form of a question, whereas the Tweet summarized it into a big fat lie.

That's why you should follow the links and post sources and not other people takes on the source. Here's the original article which is slightly less clickbaity....

Will Hulu Be Folded Into Disney+ Because There's Strength in Numbers?

Rumors persist that Hulu will be folded into Disney Plus, which might make sense for Disney down the line from a business perspective.

collider.com

 

[BrianLo]

Its limited "free", available for only 30 days and you don't actually "own" meaning it won't be in the catalog on HBO Max after the 30 days.

After the 30 days on HBO Max it'll continue through its normal theatrical run, go do the normal post theater runs like VOD and digital purchase, and then finally back on streaming like 6 months later or something.

For my own personal viewing habits, that will prevent me from seeing it in theatre. I typically see a movie within opening window (like two weeks) and usually don't watch it again.

If it started in VOD and then went "free" after 30 days, I would be more likely to see it in theatre. It definitely strongly discourages people from paying to see it when you can watch at home day and date.

 

[BrianLo]

Add on the cherry on top that Wonder Woman will be the first 4K movie available to stream on the platform and it’s a huge win, who cares if it’s only available for 30 days, most people don’t even watch it that many times, but it will put pressure on Disney also since they were considering on releasing their bigger budgeted films VOD same as Mulan pricing (29.99) so who knows if they will bend the knee and just release Black Widow in the same fashion.

Agreed, exactly. This is definitely consumer forward, but this will be a major stepping stone in the destruction of movie theatres. Exclusivity is 3/4 of what they offered.

I'm not so much arguing that it is a bad decision, just a very crazy industry changing one. Committing to this for the entire 2021 film slate is committing the movie theatre business to still being garbage in the late Fall, when by all rights it should have started to actually function again. At least as far as Warner is concerned.

 

[Disney Irish]

For my own personal viewing habits, that will prevent me from seeing it in theatre. I typically see a movie within opening window (like two weeks) and usually don't watch it again.

If it started in VOD and then went "free" after 30 days, I would be more likely to see it in theatre. It definitely strongly discourages people from paying to see it when you can watch at home day and date.

Remember HBO Max is (currently) only available in the US. So this doesn't affect anything outside the US. So international markets will have a big theatrical release, and thus huge box office is still doable by studios. So while it might change the viewing habits of some here in the US I doubt this is going to change much in the short term. In the medium or long term, we'll see.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well if true, its what I've been saying for over a year now. Guess we'll see if they hint at this next week. At the very least I expect to hear about the Disney+ 18+ section.

 

[Slpy3270]

Integrating Hulu into Disney+ is easier said than done. Hulu has a totally different workplace culture and tech infrastructure from BAMTech (which powers Disney+ and ESPN+, and I assume Disney's TV Everywhere services) and any attempt to merge the two would have to come at the expense of one of them.

That's not even getting into Hulu's third-party contracts that could complicate things, like the live TV service, licensed content, add-ons and the like.

 

[Disney Irish]

Integrating Hulu into Disney+ is easier said than done. Hulu has a totally different workplace culture and tech infrastructure from BAMTech (which powers Disney+ and ESPN+, and I assume Disney's TV Everywhere services) and any attempt to merge the two would have to come at the expense of one of them.

That's not even getting into Hulu's third-party contracts that could complicate things, like the live TV service, licensed content, add-ons and the like.

Hulu has been part of Disney for a number of years now. Its not like this is a brand new merger. So workplace culture has already been integrated a long time ago.

Also Disney has been migrating Hulu to BAMTech for their backbone, this was confirmed in 2017 by Iger.

This idea that Hulu is being run as a separate company is false.

 

[seascape]

Integrating Hulu into Disney+ is easier said than done. Hulu has a totally different workplace culture and tech infrastructure from BAMTech (which powers Disney+ and ESPN+, and I assume Disney's TV Everywhere services) and any attempt to merge the two would have to come at the expense of one of them.

That's not even getting into Hulu's third-party contracts that could complicate things, like the live TV service, licensed content, add-ons and the like.

Hulu is already part of the Direct to Consumer and International Division of the company. The media may not understand that but you can be sure, Wall Street and investors know that. Expect Disney to emphasize the Divisions revenue growth over the past year, 41% and especially talk about the international rollout of Disney+ with the combination of Hotstar. Hotstar with a bundle of Disney+ and Hotstar is the same type of package as Hulu and Disney+. The biggest question is when Disney's Direct to Consumer and International passes Netflix is worldwide revenue because it will and will pass Netflix in total number of customer. All anyone has to see is the combined Hotstar and Disney+ is crushing Netflix in number of customers in India. Disney has between 8 and 16 million paying customer there while Netflix is hoping to reach 4 million by the end of the year.

 

[J4546]

not to mention star in general. star cable has almost 800 million subscribers. thats more than netflix/hbo/hulu/peacock/apple/amazon/comcast/dish/disney+ combined

 

[Slpy3270]

Hulu has been part of Disney for a number of years now. Its not like this is a brand new merger. So workplace culture has already been integrated a long time ago.

Also Disney has been migrating Hulu to BAMTech for their backbone, this was confirmed in 2017 by Iger.

This idea that Hulu is being run as a separate company is false.

If that were the case we would be logging into Hulu with our Disney account credentials right now. People who subscribe to Hulu via the bundle (assuming they didn't have a Hulu account beforehand) need to create a new Hulu account billed through the bundle.