Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It was actually a large part of the audience overseas that is directly to blame for Mermaid's unprofitability at the global box office.

The Little Mermaid did reasonably well in the USA. It was in overseas markets like Western Europe and East Asia where Mermaid fell well below expectations and box office projections by "experts".

If Mermaid had made its $300 Million in the USA but also had the same domestic/overseas percentage split as Barbie had this past weekend (which would have put Mermaid at $400+ overseas), Mermaid would have broken even much faster.

The overseas markets from Japan to Germany failed to show up for Mermaid, and thus it lost money at the global box office.

Try as you might, you can't (or at least shouldn't) blame audiences in the Midwest who did see Mermaid for the people in Frankfurt and Tokyo and Paris who chose not to see Mermaid.

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The info you have stated disputes - to me - the “racist agenda” argument.

It has lagged behind Aladdin both domestically and much more so overseas…

I still blame the shift in theater business and the remake/franchise fatigue as the primary reasons.

 

[doctornick]

I have a bad feeling Disney will destroy Spaceship Earth.

It was good while it lasted anyway.

I doubt there is virtually anyone who thinks a SSE redo will make it “better”.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

TLM still has a long window overseas, including up to a year in Japan. This is gonna make $700 million. Stop moving to goalposts to call it a flop. That narrative has long been discredited. Elemental has moved up considerably and is going to make it. Indy is a license to print money. "Brand fatigue" is simply not that much of a real thing.

For a lot of so-called "fans", most of you do nothing but be negative. And when your kind says things like "I want Eisner back," I have to laugh, given you all thought he was taking the company on a bad road. Now you say, "He actually cared, he just lost his touch." So did you want him gone or did you want him to stay and have help? And now you say "Iger never should've been CEO in 2005." Excuse me, but were there ANY realistic alternatives? No, there weren't.

Ok…well
Played on the trolling…

You’ve put yourself on the nonsense/burner list

At least it’s out there.

Well played

 

[LittleBuford]

I doubt there is virtually anyone who thinks a SSE redo will make it “better”.

I’m worried they’d downgrade the physical effects, but I do think the ride’s narrative could be expanded to include more of the world’s cultures. It is, after all, Spaceship Earth.

In other words, I’m torn.

 

[LSLS]

Ok…well
Played on the trolling…

You’ve put yourself on the nonsense/burner list

At least it’s out there.

Well played

I fully expect you here eating your crow when Japan drops $85 million at the box office week 49 of TLM release.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I doubt there is virtually anyone who thinks a SSE redo will make it “better”.

Totally agree. If Disney declares SSE to be offensive and changes it, I can guarantee it will not be better.

 

[LSLS]

Yeah, current tickets are ~513M. So now you can see why I have my view that the box office landscape is only going to get worse not better. Heck I even think the estimates of $9B for box office totals for this year might be too high given how the year has been so far, but that is just my gut feeling.

Its just not a model that is sustainable, just like most things, as prices keep rising.

Yeah, definitely makes sense now.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I fully expect you here eating your crow when Japan drops $85 million at the box office week 49 of TLM release.

Oh book it…we’ll get a dunk tank and I’ll wear big red shoes

 

[Chi84]

Totally agree. If Disney declares SSE to be offensive and changes it, I can guarantee it will not be better.

Why does something have to be declared offensive in order to be changed?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Why does something have to be declared offensive in order to be changed?

Because fixing something declared offensive (even if it really isn't) boosts Disney's ESG score.

The only metric that matters today.

 

[Chi84]

Because fixing something declared offensive (even if it really isn't) boosts Disney's ESG score.

The only metric that matters today.

I thought the only thing that matters to Disney is money.

Has Disney said it was changing Spaceship Earth to fix something offensive?

 

[Phroobar]

I thought the only thing that matters to Disney is money.

Has Disney said it was changing Spaceship Earth to fix something offensive?

The outside of the ride is offensive to bald men and none golfers everywhere.

 

[Chi84]

The outside of the ride is offensive to balled men and none golfers everywhere.

I hope you’re using voice recognition

 

[Phroobar]

I hope you’re using voice recognition

Stop making me fix things, stupid phone!

 

[Disstevefan1]

I thought the only thing that matters to Disney is money.

Has Disney said it was changing Spaceship Earth to fix something offensive?

I know of nothing offensive about SSE but I am sure someone does.

Making money is now secondary to Disney. They will continue to make money.

Disney's ESG score (for some unknown reason) is Disney's top priority now.

 

[LittleBuford]

I know of nothing offensive about SSE but I am sure someone does.

Is there really no middle ground? Am I the only person who doesn’t find the ride offensive but recognises that its scope could be expanded to cover more of the world?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Is there really no middle ground? Am I the only person who doesn’t find the ride offensive but recognises that its scope could be expanded to cover more of the world?

Ask Disney. They are the ones who will destroy it no matter what any of us here say.

Middle ground is a reasonable position. That is not todays Disney.

 

[LittleBuford]

Ask Disney. They are the ones who will destroy it no matter what any of us here say.

Middle ground is a reasonable position. That is not todays Disney.

I’ve seen no evidence that Disney is set on destroying the ride. You’ll forgive me for not taking the pronouncements of my fellow forumites as proof of anything.

 

[Chi84]

Is there really no middle ground? Am I the only person who doesn’t find the ride offensive but recognises that its scope could be expanded to cover more of the world?

Maybe they can just keep the current one (rename it Spaceship Europe/United States) and then build another one called Spaceship Rest of the Earth.

 

[MrPromey]

I have a bad feeling Disney will destroy Spaceship Earth.

It was good while it lasted anyway.

Me too but not because it doesn't need updating* - I just don't trust the current lot to not screw it up.

*Funny enough, some of the newest changes made are what to me, are making it feel the most dated.