Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

erasure fan1

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Based on the domestic box office, it very well can have a cultural impact in North America, that Disney May very well explore.

It’s a hit domestically.
Is it though? I had it pegged for at least 100/150mil more domestically. I can't see Disney being super thrilled at 255mil domestic. I wouldn't call it an epic failure on the domestic side, but I wouldn't say it was a hit either. I'd say it did ok domestic and bombed overseas. None of us know exactly what Disneys internal projections/expectations were for the film. But in my opinion, I have to think they figured it would come in closer to the 350/400mil domestic when all was said and done.
 

BrianLo

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Is it though? I had it pegged for at least 100/150mil more domestically. I can't see Disney being super thrilled at 255mil domestic. I wouldn't call it an epic failure on the domestic side, but I wouldn't say it was a hit either. I'd say it did ok domestic and bombed overseas. None of us know exactly what Disneys internal projections/expectations were for the film. But in my opinion, I have to think they figured it would come in closer to the 350/400mil domestic when all was said and done.

It’s still well on track to break 300 million. Probably landing 325 ish. It’s still tracking like Aladdin which did 355.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Box office is coming back though, it peaked in 2018 at $11.9 billion, tanked in 2020 to $2.1 billion, recovered to $7.4 billion last year, and is on track for about $8.5 billion this year.

70% recovery in 2 years is better than I expected.

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Will it though? With a few exception almost every movie is underperforming across the board.

There are only a couple "blockbuster" films left this year and if they underperform too...... Well I'd be surprised if it actually gets to $8B.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I don't think anyone thinks or said it is just a Disney problem. We're just on a Disney fan site so it just feels that way. ALL of the studios have created a problem for themselves by killing the secondary revenue streams. So box-office is all that much more important now. Before streaming, if you didn't make your money back in the theatrical run. You had the rental market, home video, licensing to cable tv... So now they need to find that balance between box-office and streaming. But I'm not sure that's happening anytime soon. You are forced to feed the streaming beast. So you either sacrifice box-office, or spend a butt ton more on original content if you don't bring theatrical stuff to streaming right away. Or, make a kick butt movie that's a must see event. Fomo is a big part of it. If you think you are going to miss out on something by not seeing it on the big screen, or have something spoiled, you are more likely to go to the theater.
You have several around here trotting out the same several films that actually performed well as proof of it being a Disney problem and not an overall Hollywood problem any time some of us bring up how its an overall lower box office.

Digital/PVOD release has replaced the old school video/dvd rental market. And studios, including Disney, are moving in the direction to recoup cost from lower theatrical runs.

So its not all about streaming, even though that is an important part of the ecostructure now.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
It’s still well on track to break 300 million. Probably landing 325 ish. It’s still tracking like Aladdin which did 355.

Again, you forget that this country has had 2+ years of high inflation.

Adjusted for inflation from the anti-inflationary year of 2019, Mermaid is not tracking close to Aladdin. It's behind by at least $100 Million.

Then factor in that Aladdin did over three times the overseas box office that Mermaid has done, and it's not even close.

The domestic box office is adjusted for inflation, but the overseas box office is not (because of dozens of different exchange rates), but even the total not adjusted for inflation puts Mermaid at less than half of Aladdin globally.

Once again, this is not sustainable. Especially when you spend $250 Million just to produce the film to begin with. :eek:

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LSLS

Well-Known Member
Do you know any nuance?

It’s tracking right along Aladdin. It’s right in line with where it should be domestically. It’s international that let it down, but domestic audiences did indeed come out for it.

Was Aladin a cultural impact in the North America? Honestly I forget it was even redone at this point, and I can't think of any sort of social media posts or toys in the stores when we go. I also almost never hear about it when people talk about the Live actions (usually it's Beauty and the Beast they talk about, sometimes Lion King).
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Do you know any nuance?
Nuance is unimportant if it cannot turn a profit. Is the point of Disney making movies nowadays something different? "We made no money but it had decent numbers domestically, so all is okay..." Is that where they are? That is not a sustainable business practice...and people should be worried because this is not a one-off. It is turning into a trend, which is bad for CMs and shareholders...
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Nuance is unimportant if it cannot turn a profit. Is the point of Disney making movies nowadays something different? "We made no money but it had decent numbers domestically, so all is okay..." Is that where they are? That is not a sustainable business practice...and people should be worried because this is not a one-off. It is turning into a trend, which is bad for CMs and shareholders...
No…they don’t think that for a second. TWDC that is…
It’s low rent to even suggest to demonstrate your love of your “happy place”
…completely unrelated as well.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
Nuance is unimportant if it cannot turn a profit. Is the point of Disney making movies nowadays something different? "We made no money We lost 20 million, but it had decent numbers domestically, so all is okay..." Is that where they are? That is not a sustainable business practice...and people should be worried because this is not a one-off. It is turning into a trend, which is bad for CMs and shareholders...
FTFY
 

Jedijax719

Well-Known Member
So like that’s way worse than losing like $50, huh?

Neither has enough to pay for lunch today…I know that much…

How much does it suck if you have 2 flops in a month? How about 3?
Why is this so important and personal to you? You seem to hold a LOT of anger in how much Disney makes in profits? Does your whole life depend on Disney's profits?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Why is this so important and personal to you? You seem to hold a LOT of anger in how much Disney makes in profits? Does your whole life depend on Disney's profits?
Disney is a business…publicly traded…Fortune 500…Dow 30….150,000 employees and millions of shareholders

That post of yours to deflect and flip the “personal” stuff…valiant but ineffective.

Everyone move on. If mermaid gets some kind of longevity out of this? Great…an entirely new discussion…but it is a box office failure. Didn’t cover…not a 25% success or a 50…not “big in Michigan”…
Just didn’t do well. It happens…all the time

Had a dc and and a Pixar flop 2 days ago.

Move on.
 

Jedijax719

Well-Known Member
Disney is a business…publicly traded…Fortune 500…Dow 30….150,000 employees and millions of shareholders

That post of yours to deflect and flip the “personal” stuff…valiant but ineffective.

Everyone move on. If mermaid gets some kind of longevity out of this? Great…an entirely new discussion…but it is a box office failure. Didn’t cover…not a 25% success or a 50…not “big in Michigan”…
Just didn’t do well. It happens…all the time

Had a dc and and a Pixar flop 2 days ago.

Move on.
What are you even babbling about?

Yeah, it's a business and Fortune 500. But that doesn't answer how it affects you personally. You seem bitter about it's performance.
 

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