DisneylandForward

[CastAStone]

I'm confused.

Does this mean you're going to have to go through different security when passing from DTD and the DLH, or is the DLH now going to be entirely inside the security bubble?

Different security. DLH’s will now be just for DLH.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Different security. DLH’s will now be just for DLH.

So if I move from DTD to DLH, I will have to re-enter security to go to DLH, and presumably vice-versa?

 

[Misted Compass]

So if I move from DTD to DLH, I will have to re-enter security to go to DLH, and presumably vice-versa?

I believe DLH will still be outside the bubble so you'll only need to go through security when going back to DTD. Same as it currently is, just that it's a different security area from general DTD/park guests.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I believe DLH will still be outside the bubble so you'll only need to go through security when going back to DTD. Same as it currently is, just that it's a different security area from general DTD/park guests.

I guess I understand that to a point; to me it just makes more sense to go through security once for the entire resort and then that's that.

 

[etc98]

I guess I understand that to a point; to me it just makes more sense to go through security once for the entire resort and then that's that.

This is the same as it has been. You exit security when you leave DTD to go to the hotel or back to the parking lots, and you re-enter security when you come from the hotels or parking lots to DTD.

This was the setup before:

As far as I understand it, blue was for people walking from the parking garages or the parking lots north of the DLH, and red was for people coming from the DLH and the parking lots south of the DLH.

Now it’s going to look like this:

The blue and red security entrances are still there, it’s just that now there’s a new one (in green). The green one will be the new main entrance for everyone coming from the parking lots south of the DLH, and the red one will now be used only for people coming from the hotel, and I guess possibly will be pushed back a little bit closer to the hotel

 

[WoundedDreamer]

Disneyland Hotel is getting a security checkpoint, so far seem like it'll be similar to GC security checkpoint -



So Disney is already starting to expand the security bubble even prior to DisneylandForward breaking ground. We'll see how much more the bubble expands as DisneylandForward expansion of the west side continues.

Again, not evidence that there are plans to integrate the hotels inside of the security bubble. This is just restructuring what already existed. Come back to me when there are security scanners in the lobby of Disneyland Hotel, Pixar Pier, and Grand Californian.

 

[Disney Irish]

This is the same as it has been. You exit security when you leave DTD to go to the hotel or back to the parking lots, and you re-enter security when you come from the hotels or parking lots to DTD.

This was the setup before:
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As far as I understand it, blue was for people walking from the parking garages or the parking lots north of the DLH, and red was for people coming from the DLH and the parking lots south of the DLH.

Now it’s going to look like this:
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The blue and red security entrances are still there, it’s just that now there’s a new one (in green). The green one will be the new main entrance for everyone coming from the parking lots south of the DLH, and the red one will now be used only for people coming from the hotel, and I guess possibly will be pushed back a little bit closer to the hotel

Yep, the only thing based on what I've read is that it looks like the DLH screening will move closer to the hotel, either directly under or in front of the Sorcerer Mickey hat to make it a real dedicated entrance. Which would presumably block the Downtown Dr path going north, making it not a pass through anymore.

 

[PiratesMansion]

This is the same as it has been. You exit security when you leave DTD to go to the hotel or back to the parking lots, and you re-enter security when you come from the hotels or parking lots to DTD.

This was the setup before:
View attachment 783106

As far as I understand it, blue was for people walking from the parking garages or the parking lots north of the DLH, and red was for people coming from the DLH and the parking lots south of the DLH.

Now it’s going to look like this:
View attachment 783107
The blue and red security entrances are still there, it’s just that now there’s a new one (in green). The green one will be the new main entrance for everyone coming from the parking lots south of the DLH, and the red one will now be used only for people coming from the hotel, and I guess possibly will be pushed back a little bit closer to the hotel

So basically the only change to the existing setup would be if you were to enter the resort through the new green entrance?

 

[Disney Irish]

Again, not evidence that there are plans to integrate the hotels inside of the security bubble. This is just restructuring what already existed. Come back to me when there are security scanners in the lobby of Disneyland Hotel, Pixar Pier, and Grand Californian.

And it may never happen that screening is right in the lobbies themselves. But with the expansion of the Parks across Disneyland Dr screening is going to be very different than today. It still makes the most sense to me to include the hotels inside the security bubble, but maybe they don't. Maybe they just make dedicates entrances from each hotel into the new Park expansions. If so that would mean the hotels are the only thing then on the west side not inside the security bubble once the expansion is done.

 

[Disney Irish]

So basically the only change to the existing setup would be if you were to enter the resort through the new green entrance?

Several changes, only DLH guests will be able to enter through the red entrance, all other DTD guests will have to go through the existing blue or the new green entrance on that pic. So the changes are they removed gen pop access from one entrance to make it dedicated to hotel guests only and then created a new entrance for gen pop.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Several changes, only DLH guests will be able to enter through the red entrance, all other DTD guests will have to go through the existing blue or the new green entrance on that pic. So the changes are they removed gen pop access from one entrance to make it dedicated to hotel guests only and then created a new entrance for gen pop.

So if I pop in for a drink/meal at Trader Sam's I won't be able to get back into DTD as I would have before through the red zone and instead would have to go out of the way and around?

Sounds like a downgrade to the ~98% of DLR visitors that aren't staying at that one hotel.

 

[chadwpalm]

So if I pop in for a drink/meal at Trader Sam's I won't be able to get back into DTD as I would have before through the red zone and instead would have to go out of the way and around?

Sounds like a downgrade to the ~98% of DLR visitors that aren't staying at that one hotel.

My assumption is that the blue shaded area will be blocked off to pedestrian traffic, so DLH guests will enter DTD from the green ellipse, and people coming from the south parking will enter at the red ellipse.

Perhaps this signals the eventual removal of Downtown Dr.

 

[etc98]

So if I pop in for a drink/meal at Trader Sam's I won't be able to get back into DTD as I would have before through the red zone and instead would have to go out of the way and around?

Sounds like a downgrade to the ~98% of DLR visitors that aren't staying at that one hotel.

You’ll be able to get in the same way as before. You won’t have to show proof that you’re staying in the hotel to go through. It’ll work just like the existing entrance to DTD from the Grand Californian. Anyone can use it, whether you’re a guest of the hotel, or going to eat at one of the restaurants, or just want to have a look around. It’s just that that entrance is now going to be just for the hotel, rather than also being for the people coming from the parking lot

 

[Disney Irish]

So if I pop in for a drink/meal at Trader Sam's I won't be able to get back into DTD as I would have before through the red zone and instead would have to go out of the way and around?

Sounds like a downgrade to the ~98% of DLR visitors that aren't staying at that one hotel.

You’ll be able to get in the same way as before. You won’t have to show proof that you’re staying in the hotel to go through. It’ll work just like the existing entrance to DTD from the Grand Californian. Anyone can use it, whether you’re a guest of the hotel, or going to eat at one of the restaurants, or just want to have a look around. It’s just that that entrance is now going to be just for the hotel, rather than also being for the people coming from the parking lot

I don't think it's been 100% verified yet that they won't require proof of staying at the hotel to use the DLH entrance, they may at first. I know they had been requiring proof of hotel reservation at one of the DL hotels to use the GC entrance at one point (especially during pandemic protocols), I believe is still the case for early entry (which obviously makes sense). The idea is these dedicated entrances are suppose to be a perk of the hotel, not a pass-thru for regular DLR guests. If they do require proof then they'll just make you walk back through the hotel and enter back through either of the two other DTD regular guest entrances.

 

[Disney Irish]

Perhaps this signals the eventual removal of Downtown Dr.

Downtown Dr had been closed off from thru vehicle traffic for awhile now (years?) with only temporary signs blocking access. They just recently installed permanent bollards (2 weeks ago?), so Downtown Dr is essentially "removed". And would guess just as you stated that foot traffic would be blocked between the bollards and DLH entrance once its completed.

And as I understand it for those that fear losing access from the existing DTD entrance when going to Trader Sam's, the new DTD entrance is quickly accessible from Trader Sam's via a path next to the Rose Court Garden so you aren't losing anything, at least based on what is going around the interwebs.

 

[CastAStone]

I don’t know why they would bother with proof of stay past like 9AM. The GCH entrance and PPH entrance are rarely more than 3 parties deep after that.

 

[BrianLo]

I guess I understand that to a point; to me it just makes more sense to go through security once for the entire resort and then that's that.

They want to prevent guests from bringing in their blenders and cases of beer to the parks.

 

[MagicWDI]

Is it just me or am I the only one not understanding the sense of including the Disneyland Hotel within the security bubble? I haven't been inside the GCH in a good long time, but are they now fully within the bubble? Resort guests are going to have luggage they can store whatever they want inside... Unless they are all being screened TSA style, it's hard for me to wrap my head around the logistics. The resorts at WDW are not included within security bubble, except as you are leaving them when getting on the monorail platforms or boats. Not even the Skyway is within the security zones.

Maybe the Disneyland Resort pool area and center courtyard area will be included within the DTD district security zone? Is this what's being speculated?

 

[CastAStone]

Is it just me or am I the only one not understanding the sense of including the Disneyland Hotel within the security bubble? I haven't been inside the GCH in a good long time, but are they now fully within the bubble? Resort guests are going to have luggage they can store whatever they want inside... Unless they are all being screened TSA style, it's hard for me to wrap my head around the logistics. The resorts at WDW are not included within security bubble, except as you are leaving them when getting on the monorail platforms or boats. Not even the Skyway is within the security zones.

Maybe the Disneyland Resort pool area and center courtyard area will be included within the DTD district security zone? Is this what's being speculated?

They’re not putting the Disneyland Hotel inside the bubble. They’re giving it its own security exit into DTD so the hotel guests don’t have to share one with the proletariat.

 

[Disney Irish]

Is it just me or am I the only one not understanding the sense of including the Disneyland Hotel within the security bubble? I haven't been inside the GCH in a good long time, but are they now fully within the bubble? Resort guests are going to have luggage they can store whatever they want inside... Unless they are all being screened TSA style, it's hard for me to wrap my head around the logistics. The resorts at WDW are not included within security bubble, except as you are leaving them when getting on the monorail platforms or boats. Not even the Skyway is within the security zones.

Maybe the Disneyland Resort pool area and center courtyard area will be included within the DTD district security zone? Is this what's being speculated?

The idea is that once Disney expands westward across Disneyland Dr for the DisneylandForward park expansions that a majority of the land will be within the security bubble. And so the speculation, and its me who started it, is that instead of just keeping the on-property hotels outside of the security bubble just put them inside as it would make the most sense logistically. So that way its more of a benefit to on-property hotel guests having to go through security just once when they check-in rather than anytime they enter the parks or DTD.

And this speculation all started because of the way the Eastern Gateway was originally presented, which was to include all of the Harbor side once you start crossing the bridge within the security bubble, and what would happen if Disney bought Garden Walk, and made Toy Story lot a real 3rd gate.

As of now no Disney hotels in DLR are inside the security bubble.