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[Disney Irish]

Ah I see.

Further north up DL drive (adjacent to the old DTD surface lot) you have large trees that line the street to the left of the walking path. So between those and whatever berm they put up on the right side it could feel like a tunnel of trees.

Maybe if they put up a bunch of large trees. Or they could just put up facades that block out the noise and sight lines with some scattering of trees and other bushes and such, which I imagine as more likely.

 

[mickEblu]

Maybe if they put up a bunch of large trees. Or they could just put up facades that block out the noise and sight lights with some scattering of trees, which I imagine as more likely.

It’ll be interesting to see how they go about it. Like I said earlier though it’s probably the last area that gets touched. I think expanding Disneyland is much lower priority than expanding DCA and whatever they re doing on the Toy Story lot.

 

[Disney Irish]

It’ll be interesting to see how they go about it. Like I said earlier though it’s probably the last area that gets touched. I think expanding Disneyland is much lower priority than expanding DCA and whatever they re doing on the Toy Story lot.

I think it depends on what they want to bring and which Parks they want to add them to. For example if they want to bring Frozen as soon as possible I imagine that would going into the DL side of the expansion, so that would be built out first.

But before all that EGW gets done first above everything else, that is priority number one. That domino has to fall before everything else can fall into place.

 

[mickEblu]

I think it depends on what they want to bring and which Parks they want to add them to. For example if they want to bring Frozen as soon as possible I imagine that would going into the DL side of the expansion, so that would be built out first.

But before all that EGW gets done first above everything else, that is priority number one. That domino has to fall before everything else can fall into place.

The master planner in me wants to say that Frozens home at Disneyland should be as a single attraction in Disneyland proper using half of Autopia and the Motorboat area. You already have the European village theme and it would work well with the Matterhorn and not take up other valuable expansion space.

The DL purist in me wants the above to NOT happen.

The realist in me says well something is eventually going to go there anyway. Might as well be Frozen.

 

[J4546]

I agree frozen would fit well with matterhorn. I also hate subs and auropia and would love something else in that area regardless

 

[Disney Irish]

The master planner in me wants to say that Frozens home at Disneyland should be as a single attraction in Disneyland proper using half of Autopia and the Motorboat area. You already have the European village theme and it would work well with the Matterhorn and not take up other valuable expansion space.

The DL purist in me want the above to NOT happen.

The realist in me says well something is eventually going to go there anyway. Might as well be Frozen.

And the realist in me says they want want to bring HKDL Frozen to DL with its two attractions, and have it as one of their new lands for the expansion.

 

[mickEblu]

And the realist in me says they want want to bring HKDL Frozen to DL with its two attractions, and have it as one of their new lands for the expansion.

I just don’t think that’s a good use of space.

 

[SSG]

I wonder how long the Eastern Gateway will take once Disney gets the ball rolling. Pixar Pals took 20 months but this looks to be a much bigger project.

 

[Andrew25]

I wonder how long the Eastern Gateway will take once Disney gets the ball rolling. Pixar Pals took 20 months but this looks to be a much bigger project.

Definitely 3 years at a minimum. That pedestrian bridge will be the bulk of the undertaking.

If they start in the back half of this year, we're looking at 2028 for it. Which sounds about right for the timing of when these DL Forward projects start opening up.

 

[Disney Irish]

I just don’t think that’s a good use of space.

Well that may be, but that doesn't mean that isn't want Disney will do. As we know what we think is for a good use of space isn't the same as Disney.

 

[fgmnt]

Definitely 3 years at a minimum. That pedestrian bridge will be the bulk of the undertaking.

If they start in the back half of this year, we're looking at 2028 for it. Which sounds about right for the timing of when these DL Forward projects start opening up.

I think the pedestrian bridge could go up really fast depending on its size and what the city expects out of Disney on shutdowns. Site work and bridge construction work in parallel and they lift it into place overnight and then secure it? Might be too big to do that, idk.

 

[MK-fan]

The master planner in me wants to say that Frozens home at Disneyland should be as a single attraction in Disneyland proper using half of Autopia and the Motorboat area. You already have the European village theme and it would work well with the Matterhorn and not take up other valuable expansion space.

The DL purist in me want the above to NOT happen.

The realist in me says well something is eventually going to go there anyway. Might as well be Frozen.

YouTuber Hey Brickey had an interesting video about the possible location for it, the math kind of maths but we shall see

 

[ThemeParkTraveller]

What worries me is how Disney only builds one IP lands. They always include one-two rides, a restaurant and shop. World of Frozen isn't that great. It is just the retheme Epcot ride & 7DMT.

The Wandering Oakens coaster is more like 7DMT if the ride started after the mine scene. It's incredibly short and doesn't even have a show scene in the middle. It's basically a dressed-up Gadget's Go Coaster and would be a waste of space at Disneyland.

 

[Disney Irish]

The Wandering Oakens coaster is more like 7DMT if the ride started after the mine scene. It's incredibly short and doesn't even have a show scene in the middle. It's basically a dressed-up Gadget's Go Coaster and would be a waste of space at Disneyland.

Honestly though, as much as many would like a huge E-ticket sprawling coaster at DLR, a smaller kid friendly coaster like Wandering Oakens would add a lot to the ride profile of the resort.

 

[chadwpalm]

IIRC, the gate tax subject came up at last night's meeting and the city planner said that if the city wants to impose a gate tax there was nothing that Disney could do about it.

 

[Disney Irish]

IIRC, the gate tax subject came up at last night's meeting and the city planner said that if the city wants to impose a gate tax there was nothing that Disney could do about it.

I didn't watch the whole meeting, as it was way too long. But they do bring it up every couple years, so doesn't surprise me that it was brought up again last night. I just know they are gun shy about pulling that trigger as its very unpopular and once they pull it there is no turning back.

 

[ThemeParkTraveller]

Honestly though, as much as many would like a huge E-ticket sprawling coaster at DLR, a smaller kid friendly coaster like Wandering Oakens would add a lot to the ride profile of the resort.

I would be satisfied with the middle ground—a family coaster of a similar length and scale to 7DMT. The layout of Wandering Oaken's makes sense at HKDL, where they don't have an equivalent kiddie coaster, but Disneyland could do much better.

 

[CastAStone]

I didn't watch the whole meeting, as it was way too long. But they do bring it up every couple years, so doesn't surprise me that it was brought up again last night. I just know they are gun shy about pulling that trigger as its very unpopular and once they pull it there is no turning back.

The only reason not to impose a modest gate tax is continue to lord it over Disney in exchange for concessions.

If I were Anaheim, leveraging it to ensure Disney upholds the spirit of the promises in the plan (massive, many billion dollar investment that leads to huge employment increases) and not just the letter of the agreement (~$2bn on more or less whatever they want) sounds like a great idea.

 

[mickEblu]

YouTuber Hey Brickey had an interesting video about the possible location for it, the math kind of maths but we shall see

Apparently he was way off on the math. I think he might even mention that he was off in one of his later vlogs. But yes you have more than enough room for Frozen land there. I just think with land being at premium at DLR it’s a bad choice when you can just put a Frozen ride in Fantasyland. We don’t need the whole land with the kiddie coaster that Hong Kong got. Hong Kong DL needed it. We really don’t.

Now if we have to sacrifice any existing attractions (other than half of Autopia) you can count me out.

 

[chadwpalm]

The only reason not to impose a modest gate tax is continue to lord it over Disney in exchange for concessions.

If I were Anaheim, leveraging it to ensure Disney upholds the spirit of the promises in the plan (massive, many billion dollar investment that leads to huge employment increases) and not just the letter of the agreement (~$2bn on more or less whatever they want) sounds like a great idea.

Also, the council was very adamant about more frequent updates and workshops to assure them the promises are being kept. This was due to some resident complaining that Disney didn't follow through with the amount of spending they promised in the past or something. Not sure how accurate that accusation was.