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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Literally? I keep hearing that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
'Literally' is used to not only mean 'in actuality' but as a hyperbolic intensifier. IOW, 'literally' is literally used figuratively.

In general, most grammarians have given up 'correcting' the supposed improper use of 'literally' and accepted its 'intensifier' usage. 'Cuz that's how people speak.
 

DrStarlander

Well-Known Member
'Literally' is used to not only mean 'in actuality' but as a hyperbolic intensifier. IOW, 'literally' is literally used figuratively.

In general, most grammarians have given up 'correcting' the supposed improper use of 'literally' and accepted its 'intensifier' usage. 'Cuz that's how people speak.
I think in casual conversation "literally" is sometimes used that way but there are actual debates happening in this forum. People are citing data, making cases, presenting arguments based on facts. So in this environment I think literally is expected to mean literally. As in, you've said something inaccurate because "literally...[such and such fact that contradicts it]."

For example, if someone says that "there are not as many Disney-owned hotels at Walt Disney World than you think" and another posts "literally, there are 25 Disney-owned hotels there, that's a lot!" It would be expected that the 25 is not "just a number" pulled out of thin air, but rather the person actually is citing a fact and that readers can be relatively confident the fact is accurate.

EDIT: I will add the @Disney Irish did say "literally like" which does indicate it was more likely to be used just as an exaggeration, casually. But otherwise, literally alone with a numerical fact, I would hope is an actual fact.
 
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Disney Irish

Premium Member
I think in casual conversation "literally" is sometimes used that way but there are actual debates happening in this forum. People are citing data, making cases, presenting arguments based on facts. So in this environment I think literally is expected to mean literally. As in, you've said something inaccurate because "literally...[such and such fact that contradicts it]."

For example, if someone says that "there are not as many Disney-owned hotels at Walt Disney World than you think" and another posts "literally, there are 25 Disney-owned hotels there, that's a lot!" It would be expected that the 25 is not "just a number" pulled out of thin air, but rather the person actually is citing a fact and that readers can be relatively confident the fact is accurate.

EDIT: I will add the @Disney Irish did say "literally like" which does indicate it was more likely to be used just as an exaggeration, casually. But otherwise, literally alone with a numerical fact, I would hope is an actual fact.

It is fact, if anything I undersold it, because there are more if you include all of SoCal which has 34 either in operation or about to open. And that doesn’t even include all the hotels that have their own water play areas like Howard Johnson’s.


So for someone to say that California doesn’t like water parks or they aren’t popular, that is false.
 

DrStarlander

Well-Known Member
It is fact, if anything I undersold it, because there are more if you include all of SoCal which has 34 either in operation or about to open. And that doesn’t even include all the hotels that have their own water play areas like Howard Johnson’s.


So for someone to say that California doesn’t like water parks or they aren’t popular, that is false.
I was commenting on the use of "literally" in the forum, not about the waterparks popularity contest itself. But I'm happy to report this fine Saturday morning that everybody is probably mostly correct, I think.

Waterparks are more popular in Florida than in Cali. Maybe because the weather is humid.
TRUE, I decree! Here are some stats from 2015 about waterparks per capita, where Florida is at 5.2 per million people and California is at 2.6.

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There are literally like 10 water parks within a 10-15 mile radius of Disneyland. So I would say they are plenty popular.
TRUE I decree! Especially if you count waterpark-type amenities at hotels, this seems accurate enough to not warrant a site by site count.

So for someone to say that California doesn’t like water parks or they aren’t popular, that is false.
NOT TRUE I decree! Nobody claimed "California doesn't like water parks" or "they aren't popular" so that's a mischaracterization of what was said. They said they were less popular than in Florida, see above.

I pronounce water parks as both fun and relatively popular. Case closed. Thank you.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Uhm beg pardon sir, this is actually the "back and forth with Disney Irish for 30 pages" thread.
Incorrect sir, this is some people, including the person you're responding to, speculating that some fence being built on Disneyland Dr means a 3rd gate is being built on Toy Story Lot soon, and others including myself refuting that speculation including reasons why a 3rd gate isn't likely or even needed thread.

There hasn't been any real DLForward news in about a year, only speculation.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
Incorrect sir, this is some people, including the person you're responding to, speculating that some fence being built on Disneyland Dr meaning a 3rd gate is being built on Toy Story Lot soon, and others including myself refuting that speculation including reasons why a 3rd gate isn't likely or even needed thread.

There hasn't been any real DLForward news in about a year, only speculation.
Close enough.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
NOT TRUE I decree! Nobody claimed "California doesn't like water parks" or "they aren't popular" so that's a mischaracterization of what was said. They said they were less popular than in Florida, see above.
The poster I was responding to posted an article with a clickbait headline that literally (see what I did there) says "What do Californians have against water parks". If that isn't someone trying to make the statement that California doesn't like water parks or that they aren't popular, then I don't know what does.
 

DrStarlander

Well-Known Member
The poster I was responding to posted an article with a clickbait headline that literally (see what I did there) says "What do Californians have against water parks". If that isn't someone trying to make the statement that California doesn't like water parks or that they aren't popular, then I don't know what does.
I've re-opened the case. @Disney Irish brings compelling evidence. Indeed, it's a clickbait headline and in lieu of reading the article to see what Robert really has to say, since it's gate-kept, I simply decree @Disney Irish to be rightfully indignant. Glad we can clear this up. Please enjoy your Saturdays.
 

CoastalElite64

Well-Known Member
The poster I was responding to posted an article with a clickbait headline that literally (see what I did there) says "What do Californians have against water parks". If that isn't someone trying to make the statement that California doesn't like water parks or that they aren't popular, then I don't know what does.

The statement I made was correct.

Now you back your statement. "There are literally like 10 water parks within a 10-15 mile radius of Disneyland."
 

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