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[PiratesMansion]

Indoor or indoor/outdoor like Great Wolf?

I personally have no interest in indoor waterparks, but if they did build one, they'd need to theme the heck out of it for it to rise above feeling like a Great Wolf knockoff IMO, something I'm not sure they'd actually do.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Literally? I keep hearing that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

'Literally' is used to not only mean 'in actuality' but as a hyperbolic intensifier. IOW, 'literally' is literally used figuratively.

In general, most grammarians have given up 'correcting' the supposed improper use of 'literally' and accepted its 'intensifier' usage. 'Cuz that's how people speak.

 

[Disney Irish]

Literally? I keep hearing that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

In the modern English language it has taken on a different meaning than originally intended, used to emphasize a point.

 

[DrStarlander]

'Literally' is used to not only mean 'in actuality' but as a hyperbolic intensifier. IOW, 'literally' is literally used figuratively.

In general, most grammarians have given up 'correcting' the supposed improper use of 'literally' and accepted its 'intensifier' usage. 'Cuz that's how people speak.

I think in casual conversation "literally" is sometimes used that way but there are actual debates happening in this forum. People are citing data, making cases, presenting arguments based on facts. So in this environment I think literally is expected to mean literally. As in, you've said something inaccurate because "literally...[such and such fact that contradicts it]."

For example, if someone says that "there are not as many Disney-owned hotels at Walt Disney World than you think" and another posts "literally, there are 25 Disney-owned hotels there, that's a lot!" It would be expected that the 25 is not "just a number" pulled out of thin air, but rather the person actually is citing a fact and that readers can be relatively confident the fact is accurate.

EDIT: I will add the @Disney Irish did say "literally like" which does indicate it was more likely to be used just as an exaggeration, casually. But otherwise, literally alone with a numerical fact, I would hope is an actual fact.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think in casual conversation "literally" is sometimes used that way but there are actual debates happening in this forum. People are citing data, making cases, presenting arguments based on facts. So in this environment I think literally is expected to mean literally. As in, you've said something inaccurate because "literally...[such and such fact that contradicts it]."

For example, if someone says that "there are not as many Disney-owned hotels at Walt Disney World than you think" and another posts "literally, there are 25 Disney-owned hotels there, that's a lot!" It would be expected that the 25 is not "just a number" pulled out of thin air, but rather the person actually is citing a fact and that readers can be relatively confident the fact is accurate.

EDIT: I will add the @Disney Irish did say "literally like" which does indicate it was more likely to be used just as an exaggeration, casually. But otherwise, literally alone with a numerical fact, I would hope is an actual fact.

It is fact, if anything I undersold it, because there are more if you include all of SoCal which has 34 either in operation or about to open. And that doesn’t even include all the hotels that have their own water play areas like Howard Johnson’s.

Water Parks in Southern California | Enjoy OC

The complete guide to Southern California's indoor and outdoor water parks plus hotels with water parks, lazy rivers, slides, splash pads and water play.

enjoyorangecounty.com

So for someone to say that California doesn’t like water parks or they aren’t popular, that is false.

 

[DrStarlander]

It is fact, if anything I undersold it, because there are more if you include all of SoCal which has 34 either in operation or about to open. And that doesn’t even include all the hotels that have their own water play areas like Howard Johnson’s.

Water Parks in Southern California | Enjoy OC

The complete guide to Southern California's indoor and outdoor water parks plus hotels with water parks, lazy rivers, slides, splash pads and water play.

enjoyorangecounty.com

So for someone to say that California doesn’t like water parks or they aren’t popular, that is false.

I was commenting on the use of "literally" in the forum, not about the waterparks popularity contest itself. But I'm happy to report this fine Saturday morning that everybody is probably mostly correct, I think.

Waterparks are more popular in Florida than in Cali. Maybe because the weather is humid.

TRUE, I decree! Here are some stats from 2015 about waterparks per capita, where Florida is at 5.2 per million people and California is at 2.6.

There are literally like 10 water parks within a 10-15 mile radius of Disneyland. So I would say they are plenty popular.

TRUE I decree! Especially if you count waterpark-type amenities at hotels, this seems accurate enough to not warrant a site by site count.

So for someone to say that California doesn’t like water parks or they aren’t popular, that is false.

NOT TRUE I decree! Nobody claimed "California doesn't like water parks" or "they aren't popular" so that's a mischaracterization of what was said. They said they were less popular than in Florida, see above.

I pronounce water parks as both fun and relatively popular. Case closed. Thank you.

 

[britain]

Just checking if there’s any Disneyland Forward news.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Just checking if there’s any Disneyland Forward news.

Uhm beg pardon sir, this is actually the "back and forth with Disney Irish for 30 pages" thread.

 

[Disney Irish]

Uhm beg pardon sir, this is actually the "back and forth with Disney Irish for 30 pages" thread.

Incorrect sir, this is some people, including the person you're responding to, speculating that some fence being built on Disneyland Dr means a 3rd gate is being built on Toy Story Lot soon, and others including myself refuting that speculation including reasons why a 3rd gate isn't likely or even needed thread.

There hasn't been any real DLForward news in about a year, only speculation.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Incorrect sir, this is some people, including the person you're responding to, speculating that some fence being built on Disneyland Dr meaning a 3rd gate is being built on Toy Story Lot soon, and others including myself refuting that speculation including reasons why a 3rd gate isn't likely or even needed thread.

There hasn't been any real DLForward news in about a year, only speculation.

Close enough.

 

[Disney Irish]

NOT TRUE I decree! Nobody claimed "California doesn't like water parks" or "they aren't popular" so that's a mischaracterization of what was said. They said they were less popular than in Florida, see above.

The poster I was responding to posted an article with a clickbait headline that literally (see what I did there) says "What do Californians have against water parks". If that isn't someone trying to make the statement that California doesn't like water parks or that they aren't popular, then I don't know what does.

 

[DrStarlander]

The poster I was responding to posted an article with a clickbait headline that literally (see what I did there) says "What do Californians have against water parks". If that isn't someone trying to make the statement that California doesn't like water parks or that they aren't popular, then I don't know what does.

I've re-opened the case. @Disney Irish brings compelling evidence. Indeed, it's a clickbait headline and in lieu of reading the article to see what Robert really has to say, since it's gate-kept, I simply decree @Disney Irish to be rightfully indignant. Glad we can clear this up. Please enjoy your Saturdays.

 

[CoastalElite64]

The poster I was responding to posted an article with a clickbait headline that literally (see what I did there) says "What do Californians have against water parks". If that isn't someone trying to make the statement that California doesn't like water parks or that they aren't popular, then I don't know what does.

The statement I made was correct.

Now you back your statement. "There are literally like 10 water parks within a 10-15 mile radius of Disneyland."

 

[DrStarlander]

The statement I made was correct.

Now you back your statement. "There are literally like 10 water parks within a 10-15 mile radius of Disneyland."

 

[Disney Irish]

The statement I made was correct.

Now you back your statement. "There are literally like 10 water parks within a 10-15 mile radius of Disneyland."

It’s not correct. It may be your opinion, and even the opinion of the author of the opinion piece article you provided, but it’s not correct.

And I’ve already provided the information direct from the OC County site to back what I said in this thread.

So we can just move on from this.

 

[BrianLo]

I knew what I was doing when I threw my grenade and I do not regret it.

As they say: see ya’ll on the lazy river. We can go dining after and I’ll show you my point miserly duo studio.

As Universal would say: the third gate and the first ever water theme park.

 

[mickEblu]

I knew what I was doing when I threw my grenade and I do not regret it.

As they say: see ya’ll on the lazy river. We can go dining after and I’ll show you my point miserly duo studio.

As Universal would say: the third gate and the first ever water theme park.

What are they doing to do with it from November through April? Taste of Disney: Third Gate edition?

 

[BrianLo]

What are they doing to do with it from November through April? Taste of Disney: Third Gate edition?

Do not doubt the Canadian will.

But honestly, is it that different than Florida? Asking that earnestly.

 

[mickEblu]

Do not doubt the Canadian will.

But honestly, is it that different than Florida? Asking that earnestly.

Hahah. Our winters can get cold. More mild than most of the country of course but most locals wouldn’t be participating. I’m sure folks from the Mid West would be out there hard nipples and all.

And an indoor water park should be a non starter. They re gross.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

And I’ve already provided the information direct from the OC County site to back what I said in this thread.

So we can just move on from this.

I needed a little refresher in some of my GIS skills, and this was fun!

SO! PER the list from the website you provided, these were listed-
Orange County Water Parks
- Great Wolf Lodge Indoor Water Park (Garden Grove, CA)
Certainly a waterpark and well within the proclaimed 15 mile radius. ONE
- Knott’s Soak City (Buena Park, CA)
Certainly a waterpark and well within the proclaimed 15 mile radius. TWO
- Wild Rivers – (Irvine, CA)
Certainly a waterpark and right at the edge of the 15 mile radius. THREE
- Adventure Lagoon Aqua Park (Anaheim, CA)
This is a retention basin with a floating obstacle course on it... this is a hard sell as what the American public would fully refer to as a 'water park'.
- Adventure Playground (Huntington Beach, CA)
This is a dirt pond where kids can float on a piece of wood or slide down loose plastic sheeting into the mud. Again, hard sell for what any sane person is considering a 'water park' especially being we're talking about Disney on this forum...
- Aliso Viejo Aquatic Center (Aliso Viejo, CA)
This is outside the 15 mile limit
- Camelot Golfland – Water slides now closed, bumper boats only (Anaheim, CA)
By its own admission, this just is a bumper boat ride.
- Montanoso Recreation Center (Mission Viejo, CA)
This is outside the 15 mile limit
- Newport Dunes Waterpark (Newport Beach, CA)
This is another body of water with a floating obstable course on it... again, a hard sell as what the American public would fully refer to as a 'water park'.
- Splash! Buccaneer Bay (La Mirada, CA)
Sure thing, a waterpark and within the proclaimed 15 mile radius. FOUR
Los Angeles Water Parks
- Hurricane Harbor Water Park – Six Flags (Valencia, CA)
Well outside the 15 mile radius.
- Raging Waters (San Dimas, CA)
Outside the 15 mile radius.
- Dry Town Water Park (Palmdale, CA)
Well outside the 15 mile radius.
- Hansen Dam Aquatic Center – Water Slide (Lake View Terrace, CA)
Well outside the 15 mile radius.
- Santa Clarita Aquatic Center (Santa Clarita, CA)
Well outside the 15 mile radius.
- Seaside Lagoon (Redondo Beach, CA)
Outside the 15 mile radius.
- Universal Studios – Super Silly Fun Land (Universal City, CA)
Outside the 15 mile radius.
- Wibit Inflatable Aquatic Playground (Long Beach, CA)
Again, an inflatable obstacle course etc.

I kept out anything from San Diego, Riverside, or San Bernardino counties, because anything would be outside the 15 mile radius.

SO... what we have, within a 15 mile radius of Disneyland, is a grand total of FOUR water parks. This makes your statement- "There are literally like 10 water parks within a 10-15 mile radius of Disneyland." literally false.