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News Disneyland to give Snow White’s Scary Adventures dark ride a major facelift in 2020

DanielBB8

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Here's a summary of the actual movie with the songs (I'm Wishing/One Song).

"Snow White sings her wishes of finding love into the wishing well, surrounded by her only friends, the doves.
The Prince sees her and listens to her song from a distance. When she finishes her song, he comes to the well beside her to proclaim his love for her, moved by her voice and beauty. Snow White runs away but listens from within the castle. The Evil Queen listens as well, which fuels her jealousy of Snow White.
Snow White sends the Prince a kiss through a dove."

The intent was already in the plot.
 

MisterPenguin

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Premium Member
Here's a summary of the actual movie with the songs (I'm Wishing/One Song).

"Snow White sings her wishes of finding love into the wishing well, surrounded by her only friends, the doves.
The Prince sees her and listens to her song from a distance. When she finishes her song, he comes to the well beside her to proclaim his love for her, moved by her voice and beauty. Snow White runs away but listens from within the castle. The Evil Queen listens as well, which fuels her jealousy of Snow White.
Snow White sends the Prince a kiss through a dove."

The intent was already in the plot.
Did the dove consent?
 

Disney Analyst

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Hey! I said the same thing and nobody cared. Maybe it’s my delivery?

It may be delivery.

I can fully see both sides, so perhaps myself sharing why I believe consent can be perceived as given, while also understanding how women are portrayed in these early movies is not ideal, and that consent is an important topic to be taught is coloring how my post is received?

I do not think the ride would influence a swath of unwanted kissing, and I think anyone who knows the story understands the intent behind the kiss.

I also do not think Disney will change this, at least not anytime soon.
 

DanielBB8

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But she may only be doing so because the Prince is in a position of power and she feels no choice but to accept his advances!
She is a princess, the step daughter of the evil Queen. She should have equal power, but don’t because of the Queen. If anything, her title can only be enhanced by the elimination of the Queen and marriage with the Prince. She inherits the Queen’s title and power. She managed to do both while being poisoned.
 

DavidDL

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Interestingly, Snow White and the Prince do share a kiss before this moment in the film.. although it's thru proxy. Snow White uses a dove to initiate a kiss with the Prince and I think that is conveyed fairly well in the animation. She couldn't do it herself from the balcony but it's clear she would have. Not sure the Prince ever gets a chance to reciprocate the kiss, until the end.
 

Disney Analyst

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I mean, it's either someone kisses her that she loves and she wakes up, or she slowly starves to death and we have a rotting corpse in the glass coffin... As again, the dwarves did not implement any life support machines to keep her alive while she slept. Unless the spell keeps her perfectly preserved for all time?

Hard to know what rules apply in fairytale land.
 

DisneyExpert

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I mean, it's either someone kisses her that she loves and she wakes up, or she slowly starves to death and we have a rotting corpse in the glass coffin... As again, the dwarves did not implement any life support machines to keep her alive while she slept. Unless the spell keeps her perfectly preserved for all time?

Hard to know what rules apply in fairytale land.

I believe the implication in the film is that she is more in a comatose state than actually dead, because the spell is called Sleeping Death, so that implies to some degree that she wasn't actually dead, just presumed so. What that means for her long-term prospects had Snow Prince not kissed her, I don't know lol.
 

raven24

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I believe the implication in the film is that she is more in a comatose state than actually dead, because the spell is called Sleeping Death, so that implies to some degree that she wasn't actually dead, just presumed so. What that means for her long-term prospects had Snow Prince not kissed her, I don't know lol.
I remember being a kid and thinking she was dead. But I got older and realized that yes, Disney implies that she’s in a coma-like state. There’s a reference to her as “the maiden who slept in a glass coffin.” They also indicate that it’s been many months since she bit into the apple, with the seasons changing over the text in the film. If she was actually dead, she would have decayed, and yet she doesn’t lol.
 

180º

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I believe the implication in the film is that she is more in a comatose state than actually dead, because the spell is called Sleeping Death, so that implies to some degree that she wasn't actually dead, just presumed so. What that means for her long-term prospects had Snow Prince not kissed her, I don't know lol.

I remember being a kid and thinking she was dead. But I got older and realized that yes, Disney implies that she’s in a coma-like state. There’s a reference to her as “the maiden who slept in a glass coffin.” They also indicate that it’s been many months since she bit into the apple, with the seasons changing over the text in the film. If she was actually dead, she would have decayed, and yet she doesn’t lol.

Interestingly, the film explicitly tells us she's alive while under the "Sleeping Death." The queen intends to kill her, but it's not the poison apple that does it. She's counting on the dwarfs to mistake her for dead, and "She'll be buried alive!"




BURIEEEDDDDD ALLLLIIIIIVVE
 

raven24

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Interestingly, the film explicitly tells us she's alive while under the "Sleeping Death." The queen intends to kill her, but it's not the poison apple that does it. She's counting on the dwarfs to mistake her for dead, and "She'll be buried alive!"




BURIEEEDDDDD ALLLLIIIIIVVE
😂😂😂😂

This movie is very disturbing. The “buried alive” part escaped my memory until I re-watched the movie last year. What was wrong with that woman? Haha.
 

RunningKoen

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😂😂😂😂

This movie is very disturbing. The “buried alive” part escaped my memory until I re-watched the movie last year. What was wrong with that woman? Haha.

Well, it's necessary for the plot, isn't it?

A kiss, with or without consent, wouldn't matter if the apple had killed her.

The story needs a coma-like princess that still can be saved. The Queen needs her dead.
So there's a chain reaction solution to work towards that.

Nonetheless, it's quite creative and *slightly* disturbing.
I'm more amazed how I totally missed out on this aswell when I was younger.
 
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raven24

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Well, she originally tried to kill guests on the ride with a giant gemstone/boulder. I think she must like the idea of killing people with “earth elements”.
That part, too! She yells "I'll crush their bones!" as she tries to get the boulder to move. She takes Karen-ism to a completely different level.

Like...relax.
Well, it's necessary for the plot, isn't it?

A kiss, with or without consent, wouldn't matter if the apple had killed her.

The story needs a coma-like princess that still can be saved. The Queen needs her dead.
So there's a chain reaction solution to work towards that.

Nonetheless, it's quite creative and *slightly* disturbing.
I'm more amazed how I totally missed out on this aswell when I was younger.
I was only referring to her over-the-top commentary and behavior. I know about the other stuff lol.
 

RunningKoen

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That part, too! She yells "I'll crush their bones!" as she tries to get the boulder to move. She takes Karen-ism to a completely different level.

Like...relax.

I was only referring to her over-the-top commentary and behavior. I know about the other stuff lol.

Some extra attention to that part of the plot?

Villains over-explain their evil plans is a thing. And a great source of parodies.
 

Animaniac93-98

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😂😂😂😂

This movie is very disturbing. The “buried alive” part escaped my memory until I re-watched the movie last year. What was wrong with that woman? Haha.

She also wanted to put Snow's heart in a display box, just cause.

Snow White is full of morbid imagery, and that's why I love it.

The first three features were made at a time when Disney was trying to match the level of scares of then current live-action horror movies. In a way, Snow White is just as much a Universal Monster-style classic as any other kind of movie landmark.

But it also has hummable, sometimes romantic melodies and plenty of slapstick. It's kind of an emotional roller coaster, but still satisfying. That combined with the great drawn/painted artwork is why it holds up over 80 years later.
 

DisneyExpert

Well-Known Member
Interestingly, the film explicitly tells us she's alive while under the "Sleeping Death." The queen intends to kill her, but it's not the poison apple that does it. She's counting on the dwarfs to mistake her for dead, and "She'll be buried alive!"




BURIEEEDDDDD ALLLLIIIIIVVE

I know this is one of the scarier scenes, but it's always wonderful to see what a beautifully drawn piece of art this film is. The mood as she rows through that swamp is just perfection.

But damn, she cray.
 

raven24

Well-Known Member
I've been watching through the animated features on Disney+ during quarantine, and it's wild how disturbing so many parts of the first few films were!
Absolutely. I’ve said this before, but I believe Snow White should be classified as horror. I tried to watch it with one of my nephews once and he kindly asked that I put on another film after the forest scene.

The donkey transformation scene in Pinocchio still disturbs me. I think what takes the cake for me personally is the scene in Sleeping Beauty where Maleficent hypnotizes her into following the orb up the stairs.
 

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