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[Deleted member 107043]

You just contradicted yourself. You don't know what the plans were and therefore your "evidence" is not valid. Why don't you call out @GiveMeTheMusic as a liar since she still stand by that story?

Good god man, just let it go already. And leave GiveMeTheMusic out of this. I have no issues with her. Sheesh.

 

[Travel Junkie]

Unfortunately there are a few nasty bullies who predictably harass and launch personal attacks when they are pressed and bothered by viewpoints that don't align with their own. Their behavior gives me the impression that they might be slightly unbalanced, so when it starts getting weird I just stop engaging them.

You are the one that has been the nasty bully. I've had to report several of your posts and had them removed for personal attacks including calling me mentally unbalanced for disagreeing with your opinion. And here again you are calling people out that you have never met for having metal problems. You consistently dismiss any opinion contrary to your own as just another person that belong's in an institution. Then you call other people out when they have a strong reaction to you saying they are crazy?

And why is it that the only people who resort to insults around here are the long time posters, yet Hans and I always get blamed for causing trouble? Why was my name even brought up? I barely was involved in the conversation, and I certainly said nothing that could be considered insulting.

Maybe before he and I came along, there wasn't anyone to challenge anyone's viewpoint around here. Now that everyone doesn't always agree with everything that's said, people lose their minds.

No Constance it is Hans that is responsible for practically every thread that lasts for more than a few pages turning into an insult fest. He starts it and turns into a back and forth. I can't believe you actually state that the only people hurdling insults are being directed towards you and him. Do you even read his posts? They are littered with insulting language to anyone that doesn't share his view.

Even though there are only a few regular posters, there is a variety of opinions. I've had several debates back and forth including a long one with TP about the NO Square and Club 33 changes. It has always been very respectful. Your statement that everyone always agreed prior to your arrival is flat out wrong and since you weren't here, you shouldn't be making such an assumption. If you think it is everyone ganging up on you two it's only because you are associated with Hans and Hans has turned this subforum into an unwelcoming place to discuss topics. Insulting people on a Disney forum for caring about Disney. What do you expect the reaction to be when there is a constant barrage of insults hurled at them? Thank you may I have another? You may unfortunately get thrown in the mix for guilty by association, but it also doesn't help when you like many of those insulting posts.

Hans actually does have a point with how Miceage puts out their information. They are like ESPN and don't credit people that scoop them even though that is the common courtesy and I have some other issues with how they report. However, trying to discredit them by implying they are making stuff up for page views when practically every insider has backed them up destroys all of Han's credibility. Miceage's information has a history of being very correct at the time they report it.

You get what you give. Give a respectful response and you'll probably get one in return. Call someone crazy, you probably won't like the response.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

However, trying to discredit them by implying they are making stuff up for page views when practically every insider has backed them up destroys all of Han's credibility.

OMG... How many times do I have to clarify that I never said that they were making up stuff for page views or anything like that, nor did I imply it. This conversation is like the frickin' Twilight Zone.

 

[flynnibus]

It's not dead. Doobie just installed brand new forum software.

Yeah like 7 years late. At least now he's got a modern discussion platform.. and more than 5-10 posts a day.

 

[flynnibus]

But when they do post something that ends up not happening, for whatever reason, they should own up to it and admit that it was wrong. Seems like a lot of times they pretend it never happened in the first place.

Was it wrong? Or did things change? That's the distinction people need to accept when they are dealing in information about projects that are not yet actually completed. That's part of the cost of admission when seeking information that is not yet settled.

The irony is calling them 'wrong' when you have nothing but 'it didn't come to fruition' as the standard to gauge them by.

Until they establish new credible sources with some actual meat.. I've not even bothered to read their site. I'm more frustrated with their business decisions with the site than I am about the quality of their rumor mill. There, they drove it into the ground with their own, intentional actions and stubbornness.

 

[Travel Junkie]

It doesn't make sense because it's likely just another one of their wild misinformed rumors that isn't going to happen.

You stated they gave false information. Using the term misinformed implies the false information was purposeful as in they were deceitful in giving that information.

Take the TL to SW Land redo rumor in 2014 for instance, where they insisted the temporary closure of the Subs for renovations was actually a permanent cost savings measure.

Implying Miceage made this up.

I'm going to start making predictions here based on my mysterious "insider sources", insist that they are factual even when the CEO denies them, and the

Implying you will make stuff up because they do.

MiceAge reported misinformation, period

Using that word again, misinformed. A word that is used when you want to imply deceit.

This is a written medium. Choose your words wisely. With that I'm done. Good night.

 

[Kiwiduck]

And why is it that the only people who resort to insults around here are the long time posters, yet Hans and I always get blamed for causing trouble? Why was my name even brought up? I barely was involved in the conversation, and I certainly said nothing that could be considered insulting.

Maybe before he and I came along, there wasn't anyone to challenge anyone's viewpoint around here. Now that everyone doesn't always agree with everything that's said, people lose their minds.

Although I don't post much I always read everything here and I've always noticed you to be one of the friendliest and politest people here. It seems unfair to me that you were personally called out in that way. I enjoy your posts although I think you have weird tastes in celebrity crushes!

 

[Curious Constance]

Was it wrong? Or did things change?

It doesn't matter which. Whether it was flat out wrong or it turned out different because something was changed, they tend to never bring it up again, as if they never claimed it to be true in the first place. It's weird to not even make a comment about how their reporting for the last 6 weeks turned out to never come true. They could at least say, "Oh hey, look at that. It looks like we were wrong. It really hasn't happened the way we thought it was going to." Have you ever seen them do this?

 

[Curious Constance]

Although I don't post much I always read everything here and I've always noticed you to be one of the friendliest and politest people here. It seems unfair to me that you were personally called out in that way. I enjoy your posts although I think you have weird tastes in celebrity crushes!

You can call me whatever you want, but NEVER MAKE FUN OF MY CELEBRITY CRUSHES!!!!!

 

[BrianLo]

There is a difference between information being wrong from the beginning and information being wrong from hindsight. Mice Age was wrong in hindsight only.

That's all I was getting at. There are many other sources independent from Mice Age that still maintain they had the correct pulse on the plans at the time.

But who really cares, I need to stop running PR for Mice Age. When even their own readership distrusts them though I feel a bit guilty for them sticking their necks out with often good info.


I think we've heard from enough people now that GoTG Tower seems a go. The captain America coaster seems to be gaining steam but I still remain 50/50 on its placement.

PS: Everyone play nice! This hobby (passion) isn't worth getting so worked up over!

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I think we've heard from enough people now that GoTG Tower seems a go. The captain America coaster seems to be gaining steam but I still remain 50/50 on its placement.

Any idea on what type of coaster it's rumored to be?

 

[Suspirian]

PS: Everyone play nice! This hobby (passion) isn't worth getting so worked up over!

!!!!!

 

[BubbaQuest]

I'll stop talking about it. Problem solved.

Man I wish this was true. It would have saved me scrolling through another 3 pages of comments.

 

[BrianLo]

Any idea on what type of coaster it's rumored to be?

Only what's been rumored so far. More akin to Gringotts in a next-gen dark ride sort of way.

Although (if we're calling it a coaster), I hope it packs a little more punch than Gringotts.

 

[flynnibus]

It doesn't matter which. Whether it was flat out wrong or it turned out different because something was changed, they tend to never bring it up again, as if they never claimed it to be true in the first place.

It very much matters... because you wouldn't slam them for relaying something that is changed after the fact. And they do mention things that have changed... frequently. Now do they keep a scoresheet on themselves? No, free free to start one. Do they shy away from misses? I'm sure to a good degree, but they've always painted themselves as editorial -- not journalists. You can dig those threads out too if you want.. but you're kind of holding a standard that is improbable and leaping from there. Not a great place to be.

Rumormills don't promote their scorecards... they want to get the scoop and live and die based on that.

 

[Curious Constance]

Only what's been rumored so far. More akin to Gringotts in a next-gen dark ride sort of way.

Although (if we're calling it a coaster), I hope it packs a little more punch than Gringotts.

Is it true that Gringotts isn't that amazing of a ride?

 

[BrianLo]

Is it true that Gringotts isn't that amazing of a ride?

It's a very solid ride. I was led to believe it was the second coming and had too high expectations. That was my most anticipated project for quite some time and even had the random pleasure of being in USO for the last day of Jaws operation. Still remember coming back from IOA on New Years and seeing that Robert from TPI had leaked the vehicle plan.

There are pacing issues, set integration is a bit meh and for me it should have had a second coaster segment (or just not bothered pretending to be a coaster at all). It also tends to just pull up and park you in front of a screen whereas Spider-Man/transformers feels constantly more involved and kinetic with what you are experiencing. In a sense the dragon outside and queue probably outdoes the actual ride.

It's just an ok dark ride, an ok simulator and an ok coaster. I think the fact it was all three could and should have added up to more than their individual parts. For some people it did, for me not quite as much.

Forbidden Journey on the other hand just blew me away. The story makes no lick of sense but it's just a way better dark ride, with more immersive screen segments and a truly revolutionary ride system.


So yea, I'm a bit hard on it from my expectations that it was going to be the "best ride evar" and in reality it didn't crack my top ten dark ride list. It's probably slipping outside of 15 if my general expectations of PoTC at SDL and Kong at IOA match reality.

Diagon Alley though surpassed my expectations.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

I agree. Gringott's was a let down for me, toothless. Forbidden Journey is the gold standard. Diagon Alley itself though is off the charts.

 

[mickEblu]

Only what's been rumored so far. More akin to Gringotts in a next-gen dark ride sort of way.

Although (if we're calling it a coaster), I hope it packs a little more punch than Gringotts.

I'm not sold on these next gen rides yet. It just feels like "the whole is less than the sum of its parts" type deal if that makes sense. IMO these next gen
type of rides are not as repeatable and enjoyable as say Space Mountain or Splash. I feel like they may be trying to do too much with some of these newer rides and they re kind of missing the mark. I prefer an amazing dark ride or a thrilling and/ or well themed old school coaster to decent dark ride / mildly thrilling coaster hybrid or simulator/ dark ride. Not that most Disney coasters are that "thrilling" but the ride experiences work because they are simple/ fun and they re not trying to do too much. I would take Splash mountain or Space mountain over something like Transformers any day.

 

[yookeroo]

Unfortunately there are a few nasty bullies who predictably harass and launch personal attacks when they are pressed and bothered by viewpoints that don't align with their own. Their behavior gives me the impression that they might be slightly unbalanced, so when it starts getting weird I just stop engaging them.

This is what the ignore function is for. Eliminating the crazies from threads is awesome.

There is a difference between failing to qualify the state of something vs passing along unfounded rumors or just making stuff up.

Nobody said they make stuff up.

Remember when you mailed me that mug you picked up for me at DL? I was hoping you weren't going to notice that it was being addressed to Dr Hans Reinhardt.

The U.S.S. Cygnus address probably should've set of an alarm.

You stated they gave false information. Using the term misinformed implies the false information was purposeful as in they were deceitful in giving that information.

No it doesn't.

There is a difference between information being wrong from the beginning and information being wrong from hindsight. Mice Age was wrong in hindsight only.

Were they? I don't think we know that at all.