"Disneyland looking to ‘amplify’ its lands following Bayou Country retheme"

[Professortango1]

Personally I think its too small for it to be a proper pay-for-entertainment seated venue.

Go into Tropical hideaway and see how tiny that space is and know there was a stage with a large Cave of Wonders in that footprint as well, and they made that work. Golden Horseshoe has a larger stage, piano, plenty of seating, and even a balcony level. You could easily seat 80 in there. That's a minimum of $3,600 a show. Add in upsell items like deserts or alcohol and preferred seating bumps and you're grossing even more.

Let's stick with a baseline of $3,600 multiplied by 8 shows and you are pulling in almost $30,000 a day.

Put some funny and talented singers in there, a magician doing a good parlor show. I'd happily pay to see it. I pay more to attend seances or parlor shows in far worse venues.

 

[truecoat]

Go into Tropical hideaway and see how tiny that space is and know there was a stage with a large Cave of Wonders in that footprint as well, and they made that work. Golden Horseshoe has a larger stage, piano, plenty of seating, and even a balcony level. You could easily seat 80 in there. That's a minimum of $3,600 a show. Add in upsell items like deserts or alcohol and preferred seating bumps and you're grossing even more.

Let's stick with a baseline of $3,600 multiplied by 8 shows and you are pulling in almost $30,000 a day.

Put some funny and talented singers in there, a magician doing a good parlor show. I'd happily pay to see it. I pay more to attend seances or parlor shows in far worse venues.

This Disney isn't going to do that. The place probably does at least 15 grand without all the extra employees and performers.

 

[AJFireman]

Wasn't there an announcement earlier this year or last that said electric cars are coming to Autopia?

In April of this year this excerpt was added to a Disney Park Blog article. Nothing further.

"And we can’t leave out one of our opening day attractions – Autopia – which is on the road to electrification in the next few years. We look forward to sharing more about that in the future."

 

[Disney Irish]

Go into Tropical hideaway and see how tiny that space is and know there was a stage with a large Cave of Wonders in that footprint as well, and they made that work. Golden Horseshoe has a larger stage, piano, plenty of seating, and even a balcony level. You could easily seat 80 in there. That's a minimum of $3,600 a show. Add in upsell items like deserts or alcohol and preferred seating bumps and you're grossing even more.

Let's stick with a baseline of $3,600 multiplied by 8 shows and you are pulling in almost $30,000 a day.

Put some funny and talented singers in there, a magician doing a good parlor show. I'd happily pay to see it. I pay more to attend seances or parlor shows in far worse venues.

Its the same size as an old skool "two drink minimum" comedy club too. Still doesn't mean I see it as a proper venue for that type of service.

I'm fine with adding entertainment back in there like it used to have. But to turn it into a pay-for-service venue, nope not what I want for the spot.

 

[Phroobar]

In April of this year this excerpt was added to a Disney Park Blog article. Nothing further.

"And we can’t leave out one of our opening day attractions – Autopia – which is on the road to electrification in the next few years. We look forward to sharing more about that in the future."

Thanks! That is what I thought.

 

[Professortango1]

Its the same size as an old skool "two drink minimum" comedy club too. Still doesn't mean I see it as a proper venue for that type of service.

I'm fine with adding entertainment back in there like it used to have. But to turn it into a pay-for-service venue, nope not what I want for the spot.

Well, between no entertainment with an empty venue and entertainment in venue I need to pay to enter; I'll take the latter. We know that Disney has been more and more unwilling to provide entertainment or to utilize these spaces. The only thing they seem motivated by is money. So if that's what it takes to enjoy a show at the Golden Horseshoe, that's what I support.

Especially if it gets a higher quality act in the park. No offense to the magician who worked in Big Thunder Ranch's Halloween show for a few years, but he lacked personality and storytelling.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well, between no entertainment with an empty venue and entertainment in venue I need to pay to enter; I'll take the latter. We know that Disney has been more and more unwilling to provide entertainment or to utilize these spaces. The only thing they seem motivated by is money. So if that's what it takes to enjoy a show at the Golden Horseshoe, that's what I support.

Especially if it gets a higher quality act in the park. No offense to the magician who worked in Big Thunder Ranch's Halloween show for a few years, but he lacked personality and storytelling.

Disagree, if its between a place to sit with no entertainment and turning it into an up-charge venue just so it has entertainment, I'll take the place to sit down with no entertainment any day of the week (and I figure so would most people). There is already a lack of places to sit for a bit and enjoy a quick snack. I rather not lose another place just because you want some entertainment back.

 

[el_super]

Charge $45 a meal and $55 for preferred seating and you could print money.

Oh yeah definitely. I don't think there'e anything wrong with converting it into a paid entertainment space (and I thought maybe WDW or DLRP already did this to their saloon?) I think in this particular case they had just prioritized having indoor QSR seating capacity over the entertainment cost/potential earnings.

Think of it as the Frontierland version of ripping out all your stores in Adventureland to make sure there was additional QSR seating.

 

[ajrwdwgirl]

The Indy pinball machine is missing in Adventureland. If they fixed it and brought it back out I'd consider that 'amplifying' the land.

It's gone again?! It was there in early August when I was there. I was going to play but I didn' t have quarters or cash with me to get quarters.

 

[SuddenStorm]

It's gone again?! It was there in early August when I was there. I was going to play but I didn' t have quarters or cash with me to get quarters.

When I went in late August, I played a few games in the morning- then when I came back later that day it was out of order. One of the pop bumpers had broken off.

When I was there a month ago it was gone, and it was taken off of the pinball map website.

 

[wityblack]

Disney is too busy amplifying their prices.

 

[truecoat]

Disney is too busy amplifying their prices.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Not sure if I'm proud or embarrassed that I can hear this gif.

 

[WDWTrojan]

Oh yeah definitely. I don't think there'e anything wrong with converting it into a paid entertainment space (and I thought maybe WDW or DLRP already did this to their saloon?) I think in this particular case they had just prioritized having indoor QSR seating capacity over the entertainment cost/potential earnings.

Think of it as the Frontierland version of ripping out all your stores in Adventureland to make sure there was additional QSR seating.

WDW uses their saloon, Diamond Horseshoe, as a restaurant. It's the same menu as Liberty Tree Tavern next door. However, there's zero entertainment and hasn't been for many years.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Haha no, a Judge Doom AA

Now that would've been sick. Of course by 2024 we all know it'd be long gone, replaced with something less terrifying/awesome.

but seriously Roger Rabbit is not a ride the family cares for, it’s not in the best location, its not worth the 45 minute waits, it’s low on the Toontown priority list for the kids after Gadgets, MMMR and Goofys Play Yard. The Trenchcoat Jessica Rabbit is the cherry on top. It killed whatever nostalgia I had left to get me to ride it once a year.

Bummer! I still love Car Toon Spin, trenchcoat notwithstanding. To your point it’s a bit out of the way, but sometimes I'll catch a ride on Roger late at night when the wait is 5-10 minutes. Perhaps I’m a simple man, but the portable hole gets me every time.

 

[Professortango1]

Now that would've been sick. Of course by 2024 we all know it'd be long gone, replaced with something less terrifying/awesome.



Bummer! I still love Car Toon Spin, trenchcoat notwithstanding. To your point it’s a bit out of the way, but sometimes I'll catch a ride on Roger late at night when the wait is 5-10 minutes. Perhaps I’m a simple man, but the portable hole gets me every time.

Yeah, Car Toon Spin is my favourite FL-style darkride in the US.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I love most of what they did in Toontown, enjoy most of what they’ve done in Bayou country, although I still prefer Splash and Critter country over the new land, and I hate most of San Fransokyo, just a complete design failure in my opinion… doesn’t leave me feeling good about future changes.

Disney is very hit or miss lately, I’m surprised how good some of the new stuff is while simultaneously surprised how horrible other new stuff is.

 

[mickEblu]

Yeah, Car Toon Spin is my favourite FL-style darkride in the US.

I like (or used to like) the first scene or two where it feels like the zany city scenes from the movie. I also enjoy the porthole at the end or the scene where we are “falling down.” It’s longer than the typical FL style dark ride so I appreciate that. They did some really creative things and advanced/ modernized the FL dark ride and still managed to make it feel old school at the same time. Ultimately I don’t care for the tone of the factory scenes which feels like they make up the majority of the ride?. Kind of reminds of Pinocchios daring Journey. It’s not happy, spooky/ scary, funny or majestic. It just feels gloomy. That’s probably my least favorite emotion to feel on an attraction. Really don’t care for the music during those scenes either. I wish the ride felt more like the movie and more like the queue. The ride doesn’t capture what I love about the movie which is the old Hollywood setting, the interactions between toons/ humans and the music - particularly Eddie and his brothers theme. Not to say it needed any of that to be great.

 

[Professortango1]

I like (or used to like) the first scene or two where it feels like the zany city scenes from the movie. I also enjoy the porthole at the end or the scene where we are “falling down.” It’s longer than the typical FL style dark ride so I appreciate that. They did some really creative things and advanced/ modernized the FL dark ride and still managed to make it feel old school at the same time. Ultimately I don’t care for the tone of the factory scenes which feels like they make up the majority of the ride?. Kind of reminds of Pinocchios daring Journey. It’s not happy, spooky/ scary, funny or majestic. It just feels gloomy. That’s probably my least emotion to feel on an attraction. Really don’t care for the music during those scenes either. I wish the ride felt more like the movie and more like the queue. The ride doesn’t capture what I love about the movie which is the old Hollywood setting, the interactions between toons/ humans and the music - particularly Eddie and his brothers theme. Not to say it needed any of that to be great.

That's funny because Car Toon Spin and Pinocchio are my absolute favourites.

 

[mickEblu]

That's funny because Car Toon Spin and Pinocchio are my absolute favourites.

Wow that’s interesting.