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Touchdown

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RR is fun, but I still rank it:
-Alice (rare IP, manages to take you through every scene I would want to see, and has that great outdoor portion)
-Peter Pan (you fly, it’s still cool)
-Mr Toad (love the madcap adventure)
-Rodger Rabbit
-Pinocchio
-Snow White
-Winnie the Pooh
 

Professortango1

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RR is fun, but I still rank it:
-Alice (rare IP, manages to take you through every scene I would want to see, and has that great outdoor portion)
-Peter Pan (you fly, it’s still cool)
-Mr Toad (love the madcap adventure)
-Rodger Rabbit
-Pinocchio
-Snow White
-Winnie the Pooh
My list is:

Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin
Pinocchio's Daring Journey
Alice in Wonderland
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
Peter Pan's Flight
Snow White's Abruptly Ending Retheme and Tonal Whiplash Mess

Pooh moved up for me recently. It's become a ride that I enjoy almost every trip now. The only section I really dislike is the Heffalump and Woozle scene as its too open and bright.
 

Loose Pebble

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My list is:

Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin
Pinocchio's Daring Journey
Alice in Wonderland
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
Peter Pan's Flight
Snow White's Abruptly Ending Retheme and Tonal Whiplash Mess

Pooh moved up for me recently. It's become a ride that I enjoy almost every trip now. The only section I really dislike is the Heffalump and Woozle scene as its too open and bright.
Pooh gets extra points for its reliably short wait
 

mickEblu

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RR is fun, but I still rank it:
-Alice (rare IP, manages to take you through every scene I would want to see, and has that great outdoor portion)
-Peter Pan (you fly, it’s still cool)
-Mr Toad (love the madcap adventure)
-Rodger Rabbit
-Pinocchio
-Snow White
-Winnie the Pooh

It’s hard for me to rank these. I fee like my list changes all the time based on my mood or recency bias. The good news is that Disney has a bunch of dark rides and they must all be at least decent to good if I’m having that issue. Id trust my list more if I rode all of them on the same day or within a couple trips. One thing is for sure. Alice has ever moved from the top spot for me.
 
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Professortango1

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Pooh DL suffers because I compare it to Pooh MK and Pooh MK is a book report of Blustery Day and contains the scenes in the right order, it also has a ride vehicle that bounces and floats. DL is a narrative mess in comparison.

I really want to do Hunny Hunt someday.
While I miss the bouncing feature in DL, I do prefer the Beehicles here in DL and I also like the progression of the rain scene before H & W. The ending in WDW leaves me mid, even if the first half of the ride is better overall in WDW.
 

Figments Friend

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Too Many Hats

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1. Alice
2. Toad
3. Snow White
4. Pan
5. Pinocchio

If we’re venturing out of Fantasyland and including the other traditional dark rides, I’d put Roger above Pinocchio and Pooh last. I enjoy them all, just feel that Pinocchio and Pooh could use a little love.
 

etc98

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Pinocchio sucks, and we don't talk about how bad it is often enough.
I really enjoy Pinocchio, it has a classic old school feel to me.

But that could just be because I grew up going to Disney World, so when I went to Disneyland for the first time, Pinocchio was a unique and new experience. Maybe if I grew up with it I wouldn’t be as excited by it.
 

PiratesMansion

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I really enjoy Pinocchio, it has a classic old school feel to me.

But that could just be because I grew up going to Disney World, so when I went to Disneyland for the first time, Pinocchio was a unique and new experience. Maybe if I grew up with it I wouldn’t be as excited by it.
I didn't grow up with Pinocchio (the ride) either. I was in my early 20s the first time I did the ride.

By contrast, I love Alice and Mr. Toad, which I experienced for the first time on the same day I first rode Pinocchio.
 

mickEblu

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I didn't grow up with Pinocchio (the ride) either. I was in my early 20s the first time I did the ride.

By contrast, I love Alice and Mr. Toad, which I experienced for the first time on the same day I first rode Pinocchio.

The UK really holds it down with the best FL dark rides in DL. Most peoples Top 3 usually includes Alice, Pan and Toad or at least two of the three. I have Alice # 1 then Toad at #2. I'm not sure if Alice is just a hare better (see what I did there?) than Toad or if I just a have a lot of nostalgia for Alice as it was my first Disney VHS tape when I was very young and I played the heck out of it. And now I wonder, when my Dad had me pick out a VHS tape of my choice at that dimly illuminated mom and pop video store in the San Fernando valley in the late 80's with floor to ceiling shelves lining the walls, what is it about the cover that had me pick that movie as I had no familiarity with the story or characters? Whatever it is, that choice would responsible for many Alice related merchandise purchases in the future.

The ride vehicles don't hurt either.
 
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Professortango1

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Pinocchio sucks, and we don't talk about how bad it is often enough.
It's my top Fantasyland ride. I don't understand how people can dislike it, especially with the catastrophe next doors. Its visually more impressive than Toad, larger scale than Snow White, has holograms and pepper's ghost effects, faster-paced and more dynamic than Pan. It perfectly captures the feeling of running away from both; both the fun naughty adventure of it, and the scary isolation while wishing to be back home.

The way I look at it, each ride has some aspect that doesn't work.

With Pan, its everything after the Neverland model. With Snow White, its everything from the mirror under the bridge through the random new ending. With Alice, it's the final Tea Party sequence that feels like an afterthought. Toad is perfect for me from start to finish, just a little thin at times. Pinocchio has me up until the final scene with the clocks and such, which is so minor and the scale of Pleasure Island makes up for it.
 

SuddenStorm

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It's my top Fantasyland ride. I don't understand how people can dislike it, especially with the catastrophe next doors. Its visually more impressive than Toad, larger scale than Snow White, has holograms and pepper's ghost effects, faster-paced and more dynamic than Pan. It perfectly captures the feeling of running away from both; both the fun naughty adventure of it, and the scary isolation while wishing to be back home.

The way I look at it, each ride has some aspect that doesn't work.

With Pan, its everything after the Neverland model. With Snow White, its everything from the mirror under the bridge through the random new ending. With Alice, it's the final Tea Party sequence that feels like an afterthought. Toad is perfect for me from start to finish, just a little thin at times. Pinocchio has me up until the final scene with the clocks and such, which is so minor and the scale of Pleasure Island makes up for it.

Yeah, Pinocchio has that classic old school Disneyland feel.

Each of the Fantasyland dark rides are among the best ever done so the competition is steep, but I'd take it over the current Snow White any day.
 

PiratesMansion

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It's my top Fantasyland ride. I don't understand how people can dislike it, especially with the catastrophe next doors. Its visually more impressive than Toad, larger scale than Snow White, has holograms and pepper's ghost effects, faster-paced and more dynamic than Pan. It perfectly captures the feeling of running away from both; both the fun naughty adventure of it, and the scary isolation while wishing to be back home.

The way I look at it, each ride has some aspect that doesn't work.

With Pan, its everything after the Neverland model. With Snow White, its everything from the mirror under the bridge through the random new ending. With Alice, it's the final Tea Party sequence that feels like an afterthought. Toad is perfect for me from start to finish, just a little thin at times. Pinocchio has me up until the final scene with the clocks and such, which is so minor and the scale of Pleasure Island makes up for it.
And by contrast, I actually don't mind the Snow White changes. The new ride's not perfect, but it also never really felt like most people were in love for SWSA for the actual quality of the ride-more for the historical aspect.

I actually find Pinocchio to be meandering, particularly the opening Pleasure Island room where you're circling the wagons a bit before the next room. If I found the scenery compelling or the scene particularly important in the grand scheme of the ride, perhaps I'd feel differently.

This might be a highly subjective take, but I find the lighting to be unusually subdued and dull on Pinocchio in comparison to the other rides.

One question I DO have for the people behind Pinocchio: why is the version in Tokyo so much brighter than the DL and Paris versions? It's very noticeable if you watch the POVs back to back.

Another interesting difference between us; I would have actually called the final scenes to be the strongest of the attraction. Pinocchio DOES have a proper ending, which pre-new Snow White was a defining feature of the ride to me.

Alice-the tea party scene is definitely in a weird spot, but 1) prior to it being there, the ride just ended when you got to the bottom of the vine. I feel like that would have been even more unsatisfying. And 2) Baxter is on record that putting the scene in that spot allowed them to end with an explosive sound effect, which was done to counter the then-prevailing view that Alice was more feminine and girly than the other dark rides. So there's a method to that madness.
 

SuddenStorm

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No one should expect any part of Disneyland to last forever.

Yes, they should.

The Castle, Main Street Station, and The Rivers of America/TSI should absolutely be there forever. And the Railroad.

At this point, anything that remains from opening day should remain forever. I'd also add Pirates/Mansion to that.

And unless WDI somehow has a renaissance of creative genius, they shouldn't touch Big Thunder, Matterhorn, or Space Mountain. Splash shouldn't have been touched, but they did, and we all saw how that went.
 

SuddenStorm

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One question I DO have for the people behind Pinocchio: why is the version in Tokyo so much brighter than the DL and Paris versions? It's very noticeable if you watch the POVs back to back.

Two reasons- Tokyo maintains their stuff better, and also never judge an attraction's lighting from a POV video on Youtube since how it looks will be heavily dependent on the camera used.
 

DLR92

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Yes, they should.

The Castle, Main Street Station, and The Rivers of America/TSI should absolutely be there forever. And the Railroad.

At this point, anything that remains from opening day should remain forever. I'd also add Pirates/Mansion to that.

And unless WDI somehow has a renaissance of creative genius, they shouldn't touch Big Thunder, Matterhorn, or Space Mountain. Splash shouldn't have been touched, but they did, and we all saw how that went.
Add all of fantasyland dark rides. Including Roger Rabbit.
 

PiratesMansion

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Two reasons- Tokyo maintains their stuff better, and also never judge an attraction's lighting from a POV video on Youtube since how it looks will be heavily dependent on the camera used.
I've done every Pinocchio ride in person, including Tokyo's.

While the camera and maintenance could be playing a role here, it really does appear to be much brighter than the other two, and this is something I've noticed over a sustained period of time from a variety of POVs. It's not just the lighting, it's the colors too.

Could be an illusion, but appears to me to be a genuine difference, one that I'm not sure can be pinned just on maintenance.
 

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