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Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames
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gerarar
Premium Member
So as theorized, it's just the original old B-mode of Malificient on a lift, with some more lights, projections, and pyro.
I still dislike how the entire river lights up all at once. It should spread naturally from where Malificient first ignites it. But the fight scene isn't that long, thus it has to be all lit at once.
Clip of fight scene:
Disney also released an IG Reel promoting the return of the show:
I still dislike how the entire river lights up all at once. It should spread naturally from where Malificient first ignites it. But the fight scene isn't that long, thus it has to be all lit at once.
Clip of fight scene:
Disney also released an IG Reel promoting the return of the show:
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Disney Analyst
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Okay so the old B-mode, without dragon projections, and some reworked pyro…
So either investigation and repairs took until end of last year (they say they started workshopping in December), or they really took over a year to do… nothing?
But it does sound like the dragon is indeed coming back in some form. Perhaps they were going to do something bigger without the dragon, and decided to shift focus and instead commit to a new dragon figure, and just workshop the B-mode to make it better?
So either investigation and repairs took until end of last year (they say they started workshopping in December), or they really took over a year to do… nothing?
But it does sound like the dragon is indeed coming back in some form. Perhaps they were going to do something bigger without the dragon, and decided to shift focus and instead commit to a new dragon figure, and just workshop the B-mode to make it better?
gerarar
Premium Member
Malificient has a new staff/scepter. Has a light green halo around it. I think it also spins.
Edit: looking back this was already a thing, just very hard to see from afar lol
Also the new fire effect on the lower part of the stage is pretty cool.
Side fountains look to be using moving heads again (thank goodness!).
Can see the individual heads point in different directions in this still:
Full B-roll footage:
Edit: looking back this was already a thing, just very hard to see from afar lol
Also the new fire effect on the lower part of the stage is pretty cool.
Side fountains look to be using moving heads again (thank goodness!).
Can see the individual heads point in different directions in this still:
Full B-roll footage:
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Thanks for Posting that!!
choco choco
Well-Known Member
I would like to throw out my solution, which may seem obvious only to me:
Bring back the dragon but don’t have it spew fire. This negates the combustion danger that caused this in the first place. Use either smoke effect+lights to get the explosion effect (Disney has done this on various rides already) or use lasers that shoot out and alight something on the ground/water level.
The visceral moment of seeing the large physical dragon is most important. The flamethrower effect is impressive but if it must be substituted for safety reasons than so be it. At no point should we lose the sight of a real dragon though.
Bring back the dragon but don’t have it spew fire. This negates the combustion danger that caused this in the first place. Use either smoke effect+lights to get the explosion effect (Disney has done this on various rides already) or use lasers that shoot out and alight something on the ground/water level.
The visceral moment of seeing the large physical dragon is most important. The flamethrower effect is impressive but if it must be substituted for safety reasons than so be it. At no point should we lose the sight of a real dragon though.
I know Murphy was an Upgrade but is the 1992 Dragon safer?
gerarar
Premium Member
Made a comparison of the finale after Sorcerer Mickey appears on top of the cabin.
There seems to be a bunch of lighting, fountain, and laser changes.
There seems to be a bunch of lighting, fountain, and laser changes.
- Much less colors and more whites (downgrade imo).
- The tall center fountain is lit up now, similar to DHS F!
- Lasers added, but yet still just white and not multi-colored.
- No more spotlights behind Mickey and the cabin.
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Movielover
Well-Known Member
This feels like poetic irony for the decades of bragging about how much better their dragon was compared to WDWs... 
Hopefully a replacement AA will eventually be made because this is a downgrade.
Hopefully a replacement AA will eventually be made because this is a downgrade.
D.Silentu
Well-Known Member
To your point, I think reliability is the main thing that should be the focus of the next dragon. Murphy, while so impressive, really left a legacy of issues both beginning and culminating in failure. I'm pleased to hear they seem to have another dragon in mind, but I hope they are also mindful that she needs to perform for years to come.
Yeah, we want info about the new show!!!
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Perhaps there really isn't much new to talk about? Perhaps the only changes are actually deletions or downgrades?
I would find that hard to believe after all this time, but then... there's been some really iffy decisions being made by TDA and Burbank the past few years regarding the American parks.
It would be nice to see a plussed up and newly jazzed up version of Fantasmic! that uses all the new technology available they never had in 1992, or even 2015. (LED lighting, laser projection HD imagery, aerial and aquatic drones, stage robotics, etc.).
But maybe the silence and lack of info is because there really isn't anything new to brag about? I hope not.
Regardless, I'm going to watch the livestream this Friday at 9:00pm Pacific time with a cocktail and a dessert plate.
KEEP MOVING THRU THE WALKWAY!!! THIS IS NOT A VIEWING AREA!!!
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Y’all can finally come to WDW now that we will have the better F!
D.Silentu
Well-Known Member
I agree, in spite of the extended downtime I imagine everything they have worked on has been about damage control. I'd expect improvements, akin to those you describe, being packaged with a new dragon so they can call the whole affair a brand new show.
Figments Friend
Well-Known Member
Maleficent as a dragon needs to return in a new amazing form….and blow us all away again like she did all those years ago.
Come on Disneyland, I know you can do it!
Come on Disneyland, I know you can do it!
Consumer
Well-Known Member
Peter Pan and the Mark Twain still keep this from being true.
Squishy
Well-Known Member
Watch them get a new dragon in a year or two, then we can go riot at TDO asking what is up with the scamming.