We know the B Mode already, Both Coasts have it.........
When F! is safe to perform is another story........
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames
- Thread starter SplashJacket
- Start date
We know the B Mode already, Both Coasts have it.........
When F! is safe to perform is another story........
shambolicdefending
Well-Known Member
An uncontrolled fire of that size will have almost definitely caused significant damage to everything around it. Especially if high-pressure fire hoses were eventually brought in to get it under control.
I'm going to go ahead and predict no more Fantasmic until 2024 or 25. This is Disneyland, which means repairs will be outrageously expensive, frustratingly slow, and inevitably delayed. The company is already tightening and squeezing costs everywhere. This couldn't have happened at a worse time.
I'm going to go ahead and predict no more Fantasmic until 2024 or 25. This is Disneyland, which means repairs will be outrageously expensive, frustratingly slow, and inevitably delayed. The company is already tightening and squeezing costs everywhere. This couldn't have happened at a worse time.
Consumer
Well-Known Member
As much as I love the original Fantasmic, if this meant the end of the show at Disneyland, I would be ok with that. The new show lacks the charm of the original and the crowds it brings to Frontierland and NOS are just miserable. Sucks to lose such a cool animatronic, but I wouldn’t mind if Fantasmic never returned.
Anyway, though, this really does highlight the horrible maintenance at the parks right now. I’m grateful nobody was hurt, but I wonder how long until somebody is.
Anyway, though, this really does highlight the horrible maintenance at the parks right now. I’m grateful nobody was hurt, but I wonder how long until somebody is.
Squishy
Well-Known Member
The Fantasmic fire is way worse, the FoF dragon had to get its neck & head redone along with some system updates meanwhile DLR will have to redo the whole animatronic & system as it looks like it's a total goner & maybe even the basement & stage depending on how bad the damage is.
Surferboy567
Well-Known Member
Fantasmic! Is actually my favorite Disney nighttime spectacular ever. I would be pretty upset if it never came back, WDW is my home park and I have never had the pleasure of seeing Disneyland’s Fantasmic! Something I was hoping to fix this summer…
NotCalledBob
Well-Known Member
It would be embarrassing for them to have F! offline for the rest of the 100th.
My hope would be that the rest of the damage isn't too significant, and they can bring it back in B mode form at some point in the Summer.
It would be heartbreaking though if they never bring back an anamatronic dragon. Sadly, this could quite easily happen.
Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance needs to be (US) Disney Parks new mantra.
My hope would be that the rest of the damage isn't too significant, and they can bring it back in B mode form at some point in the Summer.
It would be heartbreaking though if they never bring back an anamatronic dragon. Sadly, this could quite easily happen.
Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance needs to be (US) Disney Parks new mantra.
yensidtlaw1969
Well-Known Member
Not knowing the specifics here, but being somewhat familiar with how damaging fire (and its suppression) can be, I would hazard a guess that the damage is rather significant. And not just to the Dragon.
I would personally be shocked if either the Dragon or Fantasmic itself didn't return - I don't get the impression that Disney has been looking for reasons to do away with either of them. But I would guess that some real work will need to be done on the stage before they can bring back even a Dragonless B-Show Fantasmic.
Glad to hear everybody was safe, that's the most important thing.
Last edited:
gerarar
Premium Member
Wow, I am just in shock honestly.
I'm no stranger on this side of the forum to actively give updates and post many of the faults of the show, like if fountains break or something.
But this? I would have never expect this.
I'm pretty sure Murphy has some inflatable parts (gives it that bubbly-look), so those parts would easily catch fire from the looks of it.
I also would've thought after WDW's dragon fire during FoF parade, they would've thought of this scenario. If hydraulic fluid leaks, there should be stoppers throughout its pipes, as well a system monitoring it. Airplanes for a time didn't have this redundancy, and leaks caused many fatal accidents until regulations were finally changed.
Hope to see Fantasmic! return, but that may be a while. The return of the dragon may even be more of a wait...
I'm no stranger on this side of the forum to actively give updates and post many of the faults of the show, like if fountains break or something.
But this? I would have never expect this.
I'm pretty sure Murphy has some inflatable parts (gives it that bubbly-look), so those parts would easily catch fire from the looks of it.
I also would've thought after WDW's dragon fire during FoF parade, they would've thought of this scenario. If hydraulic fluid leaks, there should be stoppers throughout its pipes, as well a system monitoring it. Airplanes for a time didn't have this redundancy, and leaks caused many fatal accidents until regulations were finally changed.
Hope to see Fantasmic! return, but that may be a while. The return of the dragon may even be more of a wait...
Last edited:
BagOfGroceries
Well-Known Member
I honestly feel this is Murphy’s end.
They have it ready to go. It ran in B mode for months in 2010 after Snap (renamed that year) lived up to his name.
More concerning would be damage to the stage and underneath it, as evidenced by burning items dripping into the pit. But at least a new model should mean WDI won’t over program it again beyond the manufacturers specifications.
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
I’m not going to watch actual footage of this unfortunate incident, at least not right now. I was disturbed by the still images I saw last night before going to bed.
The safety of guests is the only thing that matters in a situation like this. If Fantasmic! has to go down for a significant amount of time, then so be it. Assuming we will get another dragon, maybe it will be even more impressive than Murphy. Doubt it, but we’ll see.
Goodbye, Murphy. It was nice knowing you.
The safety of guests is the only thing that matters in a situation like this. If Fantasmic! has to go down for a significant amount of time, then so be it. Assuming we will get another dragon, maybe it will be even more impressive than Murphy. Doubt it, but we’ll see.
Goodbye, Murphy. It was nice knowing you.
yensidtlaw1969
Well-Known Member
That's a good call, the footage is disturbing. And in no small part because of the behavior of some guests who clearly saw something was wrong and decided to make a show of it rather than evacuate the area.
Like . . . this isn't a stand-up special, what was happening was dangerous. Use your common sense, listen to the Cast Members, skip the one-liners, and get away!
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
It is only a manner of time. At that point, Disneyland management will soon be spending more time with their family. Doesn't anyone see the signs are just like 2003 and Cynthia Harris? Potrock will be sent back to the quarry.
StarWarsGirl
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
I'm coming out in June so I'm really hoping it's this one; I haven't seen it in person since the revamp.
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
I agree. Safety is everything. I understand the initial shock that occurs when something like this happens, but leaving and finding safety should be one’s immediate action after the shock.
My own place of work had an incident with a fire right before the weekend started. The fire alarm went off and I couldn’t tell if it was a drill or an alarm. Still, I started packing my things, and then I almost immediately smelled smoke. I put a pep in my step and got out of there quickly.
gerarar
Premium Member
Anyone know what the steamboat would do in this case? By this point in the show, it's already on its way towards the viewing area/stage.
Would it just go in reverse because all the CMs on the boat would be stranded otherwise on the river.
Also the flying carpet is stored underneath the stage, so I wonder if that got damaged as well and would need repairs or a full replacement. That's if the stage collapsed as reported.
Would it just go in reverse because all the CMs on the boat would be stranded otherwise on the river.
Also the flying carpet is stored underneath the stage, so I wonder if that got damaged as well and would need repairs or a full replacement. That's if the stage collapsed as reported.
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
I do believe that was hydraulic fluid leaking and not propane as someone stated.
As far as I am aware, the dragon uses an ISOPAR flame, which is a beeswax composite (that’s how they do the world of Color flames).
As far as I am aware, the dragon uses an ISOPAR flame, which is a beeswax composite (that’s how they do the world of Color flames).