yensidtlaw1969
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Tell me you did not just seriously compare the significance of the Tiki Room Fountain to that of the Dragon in Fantasmic . . .
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Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames
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Tell me you did not just seriously compare the significance of the Tiki Room Fountain to that of the Dragon in Fantasmic . . .
No. That is your emotional rage looking to be mad. What I did was compare the cost.
Pennies and the opportunity. And nothing happened.
The result and reality in Fantasmic's situation is that the damage is so bad that Disney would rather market a new ending. Don't be so mad about it.
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yensidtlaw1969
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Show me where I expressed rage. Please.
You're reaching new levels of delusion and it's really embarrassing for you.
First off, the Tiki Room fountain situation was more complex than you're making it sound. While it's still obviously much cheaper than rebuilding after the Fantasmic Dragon destruction, it's also far, far, far less essential to the show as a driving force for audiences.
We're already seeing visible public outcry over the idea that the Dragon won't be returning with the show. Find me even a small handful of people who reacted that way to the loss of the Tiki Room fountain. Which, for the record, I think should have been returned. But I still recognize fully the several orders of magnitude value difference between that and the Fantasmic Dragon.
Show me where I expressed rage. Please.
You're reaching new levels of delusion and it's really embarrassing for you.
First off, the Tiki Room fountain situation was more complex than you're making it sound. While it's still obviously much cheaper than rebuilding after the Fantasmic Dragon destruction, it's also far, far, far less essential to the show as a driving force for audiences.
We're already seeing visible public outcry over the idea that the Dragon won't be returning with the show. Find me even a small handful of people who reacted that way to the loss of the Tiki Room fountain. Which, for the record, I think should have been returned. But I still recognize fully the several orders of magnitude value difference between that and the Fantasmic Dragon.
I could see the anticidents for it. I tried to stop you before it happened. Here is the emotional response tone and the same eye roll again.
The point of the tiki room was one example of when the money was coming in at its peak and the opportunity presented itself.
These are lean years.
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Californian Elitist
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Literally no one is outraged, mad, or emotional.
yensidtlaw1969
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Oh please. What unearned levels of condescension.
I'll give you another emoji, because that you have earned:
You have displaced anger for me over not getting the dragon back?Oh please. What unearned levels of condescension.
I'll give you another emoji, because that you have earned:
You call me delusional and I should be embarrassed. If that does not give off a sense of arrogance with an eyeroll...
You may even really love the new finale.
But the point remains. You are not getting that dragon when the show first comes back online.
yensidtlaw1969
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Bolded the operative for ya.
Yep, that's why I said it. It could return, but what we know is what I stated. Lean times. Don't expect it a priority.
yensidtlaw1969
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Disney Analyst
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Interesting if true. This may mean same team as Wondrous Journey (Headed by Jordan Peterson, who also did Rogers)
Californian Elitist
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If they didn’t have a team to work on this project, then there wouldn’t be “new magic” and the show would likely return before next spring.
Squishy
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Wasnt the dragon built by a 3rd party company?
Californian Elitist
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If there is to be no animatronic (who knows what’s happening), I would be fine with drones.
D.Silentu
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Yes, Garner Holt handled the manufacture.
Disney Analyst
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Most of Disney's AAs these days are built by contractors like Garner Holt, including the late, great, Murphy Gertrude the Third.
May she RIP.
wtyy21
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The show will essentially become Disneyland version of Yeti at all when it returns next year, with many damages related to the dragon will alter the ending of the show until the new dragon was built.
Nland316
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I’d be so happy if that in fact is the team being tasked with updating the show. Everything Jordan Peterson has done as a creative director has been pretty great. Steve Davison really took a toll with his last update that made the show a bit meh.
Disney Analyst
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Without the dragon they will seriously need to rethink the show.
The current villains segment hinges upon the dragon, seeing as they removed the remaining physical and exciting elements (Witch transformation, Ursula float and then the Flotsam / Jetsam floats).
D.Silentu
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This may not be a popular proposed solution, but I can imagine a new dragon being a sort of refinement of the version from the original Fantasmic. Rather than folding a massive animatronic into a tiny pit, a better scaled and articulated head on a Kuka arm could take its place. Due to the audience's distance from the stage I think they could get away with movable props, projection mapped, for her body behind the head. Depending on the size of the body prop, the wings could be projected onto the rear screen.
The aim of such an approach would be to reduce the maintenance issues the Murphy dragon suffered from. I would rather see that version return, but her rocky performance history is best viewed as a hard lesson. Whatever they do come up with, there is one element that will make the show seem hollow without its return: the pyrotechnics.
The aim of such an approach would be to reduce the maintenance issues the Murphy dragon suffered from. I would rather see that version return, but her rocky performance history is best viewed as a hard lesson. Whatever they do come up with, there is one element that will make the show seem hollow without its return: the pyrotechnics.