Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames

TP2000

TP2000

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I'll be at the beach house for several weeks later this summer. The kids (nephews and wives) don't want to go to Disneyland any more, they're over it. But if they did something like this on the Mark Twain at night, I'd drive up there this July to see it. Just for the fun of it.

And now that Prohibition has been repealed at Disneyland, they could even serve a half-decent Mint Julep on board for $20! I'd buy two!

 
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jrhwdw

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We'll see what happens this week but........if DLR doesn't want to bother with MSEP/PTN......... Send BOTH to TDO!!!!!!!! TDO would use them consistently! Something DLR is not Committed to!


If MSEP was never planned for 2023 from the Start, that means the first part of the March Rumor was false and, who knows about the Second Part! 2 Great Night Parades should NOT be Locked Up Backstage/Offsite for Months/Years on end!!!!!!!
 
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jrhwdw said:
We'll see what happens this week but........if DLR doesn't want to bother with MSEP/PTN......... Send BOTH to TDO!!!!!!!! TDO would use them consistently! Something DLR is not Committed to!


If MSEP was never planned for 2023 from the Start, that means the first part of the March Rumor was false and, who knows about the Second Part! 2 Great Night Parades should NOT be Locked Up Backstage/Offsite for Months/Years on end!!!!!!!
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Maybe Florida should have committed to 1) not destroying Spectro Magic and 2) taking better care of Electrical Parade.
 
TheCoasterNerd

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Ya know what I've always thought would be cool? I think they should try to make some sort of night parade that has fireworks involved in it, like there is a WOC float that has a water collection system at the bottom and there is a bunch of mini-WOC fountains on too, with a model of the Fun Wheel and the Incredicoaster, also a Castle float with comets on a float behind it. Either way, my point is that they should make a Fantasmic parade that has fireworks, and each float is one scene from the show. The dragon scene could be a copy of the dragon float from FoF at MK
 
PiratesMansion

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Disney1923-2023 said:
Ya know what I've always thought would be cool? I think they should try to make some sort of night parade that has fireworks involved in it, like there is a WOC float that has a water collection system at the bottom and there is a bunch of mini-WOC fountains on too, with a model of the Fun Wheel and the Incredicoaster, also a Castle float with comets on a float behind it. Either way, my point is that they should make a Fantasmic parade that has fireworks, and each float is one scene from the show. The dragon scene could be a copy of the dragon float from FoF at MK
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Both have already been done in some capacity.

For Fireworks, the To Honor America float of MSEP had fireworks. They were eventually updated to look a bit more like actual fireworks, but they've always been there so far as I know:


A similar effect was also used in Spectromagic, and was still part of the parade when it closed in 2010:


Fantasmic as a parade: That basically describes Fantillusion, a parade that ran at Tokyo Disneyland from 1995-2001, and then in reduced form at Disneyland Paris from roughly 2003-2012, divided into three parts with show stops; in the second segment (essentially the Villains part), one of the floats starts with Maleficient and transforms into the dragon during the show stop:
 
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TheCoasterNerd

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PiratesMansion said:
The To Honor America float of MSEP had fireworks. They were eventually updated to look a bit more like actual fireworks, but they've always been there so far as I know:


A similar effect was also used in Spectromagic, and was still part of the parade when it closed in 2010:
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I meant real fireworks, not some fake light display fireworks.
 
TheCoasterNerd

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PiratesMansion said:
Fantasmic as a parade: That basically describes Fantillusion, a parade that ran at Tokyo Disneyland from 1995-2001, and then in reduced form at Disneyland Paris from roughly 2003-2012, divided into three parts with show stops; in the second segment (essentially the Villains part), one of the floats starts with Maleficient and transforms into the dragon during the show stop:
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For this I meant there would be a few show stops but repeatedly through the choreo there would be Mickey going up and down on the lift and with that burst of Pyro. Maybe while he was under the bulk of the float in the area with the lift he'd be allowed to grab a drink of water before reappearing on the elevator. There'd be a model of Steamboat Willie with all the characters, it could be similar in size to the To Honor America float of MSEP
 
PiratesMansion

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Disney1923-2023 said:
For this I meant there would be a few show stops but repeatedly through the choreo there would be Mickey going up and down on the lift and with that burst of Pyro. Maybe while he was under the bulk of the float in the area with the lift he'd be allowed to grab a drink of water before reappearing on the elevator. There'd be a model of Steamboat Willie with all the characters, it could be similar in size to the To Honor America float of MSEP
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Disney1923-2023 said:
I meant real fireworks, not some fake light display fireworks.
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While I'm not an expert on fireworks launching, this seems like a huge potential safety hazard.

Launching fireworks that close to guests, in the already narrow pathways of Disneyland, were they to go even slightly wrong, just seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

People were already making claims about how dangerous the Murphy fire was in this very thread when the guests were clearly separated from the dragon going up in flames by the river. That plus the Maleficent fire during FOF at Magic Kingdom means that this will likely never happen.
 
TheCoasterNerd

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PiratesMansion said:
While I'm not an expert on fireworks launching, this seems like a huge potential safety hazard.

Launching fireworks that close to guests, in the already narrow pathways of Disneyland, were they to go even slightly wrong, just seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

People were already making claims about how dangerous the Murphy fire was in this very thread when the guests were clearly separated from the dragon going up in flames by the river. That plus the Maleficent fire during FOF at Magic Kingdom means that this will likely never happen.
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That's fair. I just always thought it would be cool, never said it would actually happen
 
brb1006

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imagineer97 said:
Meanwhile across the continent back in 2013...
Random person backstage: Hey, TDO, what's this rotting piece of garbage over here?
TDO BigBoss: Oh, that's just the tattered remains of Chernabog from SpectroMagic that we left outside to decay in the Florida elements! Call facilities, they'll get it out of there. They just finished breaking the rest of it down with a forklift.

Still enrages me all these years later.
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I'm still very bitter over WDW's treatment of Spectromagic after ending unceremoniously during the Summer of 2010.
 
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jrhwdw

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imagineer97 said:
Meanwhile across the continent back in 2013...
Random person backstage: Hey, TDO, what's this rotting piece of garbage over here?
TDO BigBoss: Oh, that's just the tattered remains of Chernabog from SpectroMagic that we left outside to decay in the Florida elements! Call facilities, they'll get it out of there. They just finished breaking the rest of it down with a forklift.

Still enrages me all these years later.
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brb1006 said:
I'm still very bitter over WDW's treatment of Spectromagic after ending unceremoniously during the Summer of 2010.
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Granted, I'm not an insider and it's already 2023, after COVID. However, I do wonder if we might still have Spectro if MSEP went to DL for its 55th in 2010 instead of MK....... Yes, MK probably wanted it because of Potter but, DL needed it more since all they had was the Street Paqrty in 2010!

I just hope the Night Parade Story is not done anywhere!!! TDL needs the Pre COVID Dreamlights back and, the US Resorts need something!!!!
 
SaucyBoy

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jrhwdw said:
Granted, I'm not an insider and it's already 2023, after COVID. However, I do wonder if we might still have Spectro if MSEP went to DL for its 55th in 2010 instead of MK....... Yes, MK probably wanted it because of Potter but, DL needed it more since all they had was the Street Paqrty in 2010!

I just hope the Night Parade Story is not done anywhere!!! TDL needs the Pre COVID Dreamlights back and, the US Resorts need something!!!!
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How is this relevant to Disneyland's Fantasmic? It's been 13 years, it's time to let it go. WDW doesn't have to be centered in every conversation about theme parks.
 
brb1006

brb1006

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jrhwdw said:
Granted, I'm not an insider and it's already 2023, after COVID. However, I do wonder if we might still have Spectro if MSEP went to DL for its 55th in 2010 instead of MK....... Yes, MK probably wanted it because of Potter but, DL needed it more since all they had was the Street Paqrty in 2010!

I just hope the Night Parade Story is not done anywhere!!! TDL needs the Pre COVID Dreamlights back and, the US Resorts need something!!!!
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I remember there was some talks of WDW planning on refreshing Spectromagic back when MSEP was originally planned for a Summer only run during 2010. Before WDW decided to extends the parade's run which lasted until October 2016.
 

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