News Disneyland Character Performers Look to Unionize With Actors’ Equity

[TrainsOfDisney]

I’m all for CM’s being paid for their work and treated well - but they need to be careful with making unrealistic demands.

Why do the actors need to be equity for example? Didn’t they already have a union that represented them? What is the issue?

 

[Parteecia]

The only possible rally CMs I saw today were enjoying the parks while wearing union tshirts.

 

[Jiggsawpuzzle35]

I'd love to know that too.

Disneyland CM's are getting paid higher than the current SoCal market rates for other unskilled, entry-level jobs like McDonald's, Target cashiers, custodial, etc. Attractions CM's are the lowest paid, at a starting rate of $20 per hour, because those ride ops jobs are in the highest demand.

Here are some current starting pay rates for other CM's in 2024, from $21.25 for an entry-level job in food service, to $28.50 for an entry-level job at the hotel front desk...

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Aside from a pay raise above these already high starting wages for entry-level unskilled jobs (the skilled jobs like Electricians start at $37), what are the CM's asking for? Paid childcare? An extra break? Cheaper Starbucks menu items?

Damn, I remembered getting paid $6.75 a hour working ODV. Not only did we have to push out the beverage cars manually, but we also didn’t have automated cash registers with credit card machines. Some of these CMs nowadays have it way too easy.

 

[wdrive]

I’m all for CM’s being paid for their work and treated well - but they need to be careful with making unrealistic demands.

Why do the actors need to be equity for example? Didn’t they already have a union that represented them? What is the issue?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

are they wanting costume characters and all parade performers to be equity? Because that is not how it works in Florida.

Disneyland base for entertainment is paying $24.15 an hour. What are they wanting?

And they say they are “underpaid and overworked” - do they want to get paid more money and work less hours?

In general I’m all for CM’s - but there is a line where it crosses into unrealistic demands.

 

[Kali10]

are they wanting costume characters and all parade performers to be equity? Because that is not how it works in Florida.

Disneyland base for entertainment is paying $24.15 an hour. What are they wanting?

And they say they are “underpaid and overworked” - do they want to get paid more money and work less hours?

In general I’m all for CM’s - but there is a line where it crosses into unrealistic demands.

The rally today was for 4 other unions that represent attractions, entertainment costuming, candy makers, and etc.

In terms of the Characters and Parade Performers, you are correct that they are not with Equity in Florida. However, the entertainment CMs in Florida ARE with a union. Entertainment at Disneyland have been hourly non-union the entirety of their time here.

As it stands, entertainment CMs have gone through non-restrictive scheduling which leads to more injuries from lack-of recovery time and lack of opportunities to gain adequate sick/pto time. Parade performers can be working 40+ hours a week and still not qualify for full-time status and all the benefits that come with it (health care, vacation time, etc.) In some cases, entertainment offerings/hours get cut without advance notice for these CMs to be able to find work elsewhere, and yet, they’re expected to be fully available on a moments notice and get penalized if they can’t be because they had to find a job elsewhere to supplement lost hours. So yes, these CMs are technically being overworked and “under paid,” but the reality of them wanting to unionize is to be able to set up protections for themselves and their livelihood as well as the future generations of entertainment CMs.

 

[wdrive]

What are they wanting?

I’ve already replied to you above with a video

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I’ve already replied to you above with a video

I watched it - it doesn’t clearly explain what they want, just some of the concerns.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The rally today was for 4 other unions that represent attractions, entertainment costuming, candy makers, and etc.

Entertainment at Disneyland have been hourly non-union the entirety of their time here.

These seem to contradict themselves - if there is a union that represents entertainment - how can entertainment be non-union?

 

[remycat]

These seem to contradict themselves - if there is a union that represents entertainment - how can entertainment be non-union?

Some of the character and parade entertainment CMs just recently unionized at Disneyland, after having always been non-union previously - judging by the title, discussing that was actually the original purpose of this thread.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Some of the character and parade entertainment CMs just recently unionized at Disneyland, after having always been non-union previously - judging by the title, discussing that was actually the original purpose of this thread.

Characters and Parade wouldn’t be equity though.

This is getting a bit confusing! Haha

 

[Kali10]

I watched it - it doesn’t clearly explain what they want, just some of the concerns.

I’m sure if they listed out point by point what they wanted, it would be too drawn out of a video from my understanding, they are in the middle of constructing the contract within their teams, respectively, so these detailed concerns are in the process of being fully fleshed out before contract negotiations start with Disney

Characters and Parade wouldn’t be equity though.

This is getting a bit confusing! Haha

There are different unions that can be chosen to represent their cast member, but it’s up to the cast to decide who they want to be with.

Floridian’s Characters and Parades are with Teamsters - unfortunately, a non-performing based union, so a lot of their contract doesn’t work for them due to the lack of understanding of their job duties. Equity represents their stage performers and have agreed to represent Disneyland Parades and Characters when Disneyland’s cast reached out to them.

 

[Squishy]

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Equity represents their stage performers and have agreed to represent Disneyland Parades and Characters when Disneyland’s cast reached out to them.

that will be the end of parades and characters then. At least the amount that Disneyland has. That’s an unreasonable ask in my opinion.

 

[Kali10]

that will be the end of parades and characters then. At least the amount that Disneyland has. That’s an unreasonable ask in my opinion.

Can I pick your brain as to why it seems unreasonable?

 

[Phroobar]

How about Disney offers them 50% more if they dissolve the union?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Can I pick your brain as to why it seems unreasonable?

Well for 1. It’s an unreasonable time for any of this - Disneyland just raised wages significantly - now they are wanting more. I’m all for the increase they just got - but it’s too soon to be saying it’s not enough.

For entertainment specifically - Equity contracts are very favorable for the actors and stage managers - which is a good thing. But it’s designed for professional stage productions with highly qualified and trained professionals.

If we are talking about the performers at the Hyperion? Yes, they should be equity! The costume characters and parade performers? No, it doesn’t take an equity actor to be friends with chip n dale.

Entertainment is already paid more than attractions, f&b, etc. - which is good.

 

[Kali10]

Well for 1. It’s an unreasonable time for any of this - Disneyland just raised wages significantly - now they are wanting more. I’m all for the increase they just got - but it’s too soon to be saying it’s not enough.

For entertainment specifically - Equity contracts are very favorable for the actors and stage managers - which is a good thing. But it’s designed for professional stage productions with highly qualified and trained professionals.

If we are talking about the performers at the Hyperion? Yes, they should be equity! The costume characters and parade performers? No, it doesn’t take an equity actor to be friends with chip n dale.

Entertainment is already paid more than attractions, f&b, etc. - which is good.

I see. Wages aside, it still doesn’t account for the protections for the cast - which is severely lacking. Safety standards, lack of accountability/proper communication from management, job security, etc. all come into play with what these cast members are seeking.

Performers in the Hyperion and other stage shows are already covered under AGVA, which have fully backed and supported Characters and Parade Performers unionizing with Equity.

Respectfully, these performers ARE trained and qualified professionals in their field and deserve the same representation as other performers in the industry - ESPECIALLY the parade performers which I can argue do a lot more in their roles compared to their counterparts in the stage productions at Hyperion and parade performers in Florida. They do the same amount of training and development in their craft as anyone else unionized with Equity.

The pay compared to other operational roles is great for them, sure, but they’re getting shafted when it comes to everything else.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The pay compared to other operational roles is great for them, sure, but they’re getting shafted when it comes to everything else.

In what ways? Are they treated differently than Ride Operators for example?

 

[TP2000]

This slickly produced video was quite interesting. But it was just sort of a female dog session for their allegedly awful employer they've worked at for a decade or more.

Also, the blonde girl had an interesting take, in short; "My parents worked at Disneyland for over a decade in the 1980's and 90's, and Disneyland was awful to my parents and purposely caused them physical injury and when my mom told Disneyland management her work environment was injuring her they refused to prevent the injuries, so when I graduated from high school I immediately applied to the same Disneyland department my parents worked in and were injured in, and I got a job there and have worked there for 8 years for an employer who is still awful."