So you judge based on tatoos as well… just specifically on the face. Good to know. I don’t think any visible tattoos should be allowed - seems more fair to me then debating where a tattoo should or shouldn’t be.
I have 6 tattoos, my point was that I feel face tattoos are more a detraction from Show. Regardless, I don't like to argue with on the forums, and this is the wrong thread anyway.
That may not be the best example to use - In 'n out and that guy on the left is touching and grinding. Just like offstage CMs?Can you imagine how tough it would be to fill shifts if they still had grooming standards? They'd be forced to raise wages to fill the shifts!
This is basic economics. They may have marketed the ditching of the grooming standards as a trendy "DEI" thing and rolled it out with a "You asked, we listened!" smarmy and fake PR spin, but the end goal was to keep wages low by widening the labor pool with lower standards.
I'm frankly amazed at how few CM's realize they got played like that. Do they not teach Econ in high school any more?
Disneyland's CM's now look as trashy and unkempt and tatted up as WDW's. But drive three blocks east of Disneyland on Ball Road to In-N-Out and they still have the same strict grooming standards that In-N-Out has always had. And In-N-Out pays more than Disneyland!
The old clean cut & friendly Disney Look still lives in Anaheim in 2023, but you have to go down the street to In-N-Out Burger to find it!
And I feel all tattoos are a detraction from show. If you can understand how one is, you can’t dismiss the other.
Maybe the attitudes toward the dress code changes are more of an age-related thing. My 30-something kids wouldn’t give a second thought to the way the CMs in the pictures are dressed.
That's what I'm convinced it must be.
I don’t think the “immaculate grooming” made Disneyland memorable. I’m unsure of how old you are and don’t want to sound like I’m citing generational differences, but it was a different time. Look at the guests on the boat, the women are all in dressed and “groomed”. You won’t see that today. Also the Photopass CM you cited, I’ve never seen another CM with a beard that long and to be honest it kinda seems against the rules. His leadership may just be lax. And for the Storybookland Canal CM, his long hair bothers you? Why? And his beard isn’t a mess or anything.Well, that's great if you don't see it, or want to pretend those randomly taken photos above don't exist. Or perhaps you don't think there's anything wrong with the way these CM's have grown their hair and have worn their tired unpressed uniforms?
As a reminder, what made Disneyland so famous was because when you went on rides and went into shows the CM's were all dressed the part and looked immaculately groomed. Here's the 1960's version of a Storybook Land Cast Member as a point of reference to the young man above....
You have to wonder, if Disneyland had opened in 1955 with the average 1950's carny workers with greasy hair and a less-than-welcoming look, would Disneyland have become the American icon it did? Would Walt have been successful enough by 1965 to build a second version in Florida? Or would it have been like Freedomland or Six Flags and have closed within a few years or devolved into a carny coaster park within a decade? As just another regional amusement park with greasy employees and unattended details...
The Disney theme parks were built upon a mountain of mystique and unique differences. The changes to the Disney Look standards are just one of the more glaring examples of how that mystique has been chipped away and thrown out, with a "Yeah, but...!" attitude whenever anyone points out the traditional Disney high standards still exist at many companies just a few blocks from their parks.
I saw the pictures and the CMs looked okay to me. The Disney CMs we saw were dressed neatly, but in the way young (and even older) people dress now - not the way they dressed in the 1950’s and 1960’s.Well, that's great if you don't see it, or want to pretend those randomly taken photos above don't exist. Or perhaps you don't think there's anything wrong with the way these CM's have grown their hair and have worn their tired unpressed uniforms?
As a reminder, what made Disneyland so famous was because when you went on rides and went into shows the CM's were all dressed the part and looked immaculately groomed. Here's the 1960's version of a Storybook Land Cast Member as a point of reference to the young man above....
You have to wonder, if Disneyland had opened in 1955 with the average 1950's carny workers with greasy hair and a less-than-welcoming look, would Disneyland have become the American icon it did? Would Walt have been successful enough by 1965 to build a second version in Florida? Or would it have been like Freedomland or Six Flags and have closed within a few years or devolved into a carny coaster park within a decade? As just another regional amusement park with greasy employees and unattended details...
The Disney theme parks were built upon a mountain of mystique and unique differences. The changes to the Disney Look standards are just one of the more glaring examples of how that mystique has been chipped away and thrown out, with a "Yeah, but...!" attitude whenever anyone points out the traditional Disney high standards still exist at many companies just a few blocks from their parks.
It’s not. I’m sure if you surveyed every guest leaving the MK in a day it would be like 1 in 50 that would care about the CM that handed them their pretzels tattoo or nail polish
Bingo! That gets us back to the issue at hand.
If no one today cares that the male CM that hands them a pretzel has tats or black nail polish,
Why is someone with tattoos and nail polish lesser than you? Have you ever thought about the cast members who have worked for Disney for years that are now allowed to show the same tattoos they had, maybe choose a new color of nail polish? You do realize these are people? Right? Not robots.
Then that audible sound would only affect that select group and others could care less.
Next time attraction shuts down resell an item from the attraction. Also Some guests sold Splash Mountain water right after SM closed at MK on eBay one winning bid for 4oz of water - a little over $100. When a number of cast were laid off during Covid 2020 some permanently , , side hustles helped them out. The CMs even formed their own FB page also open to invitation to non CMs - Ears for Each Other. The Queen of side hustles has to be RN Stephanie Beggs. She sold her studying notes ( aka Cliff Notes ) from nursing school to willing buyers on Tik Tok and Etsy. Still an RN she amassed $2M in earnings on her brainstorm idea.
FWIW, my youngest daughter was hired several years ago at Six Flags in NJ…at the time, as a HS senior, she had green tinted hair…she was told to dye it back to a more “natural” color or she wouldn’t be hired. Needless to say, she refused the color change and refused the position. Fast forward another month or 2, and the appeal of money outweighed the hair color and was ultimately hired as a game operator on the boardwalk. Yes, they had dress and appearance policies too.
