News Disney World Cast Member unions to begin week of negotiations for wage increases, healthcare costs and more

[TrainsOfDisney]

The picket line doesn’t exist in the scenario where it would be effective. Which is 100% participation, shutdown and public closure/loss

What’s the percentage before there are shutdowns though? 30%?

 

[Brian]

There will not be a strike…because it would last about 1.5 days.
The picket line doesn’t exist in the scenario where it would be effective. Which is 100% participation, shutdown and public closure/loss

Now I will say that management can least afford this kinda attention now that ever before…that is true.

But you have a better chance herding cats with one of these flimsy trade councils

There's a better chance of the next spy balloon being launched from the China pavilion in EPCOT than a fruitful union strike at WDW.

 

[Brian]

What’s the percentage before there are shutdowns though? 30%?

It would all depend on how effective the shop stewards/business agents are on the ground. Union engagement at WDW is generally low, and it's usually only the most senior (in terms of seniority) CMs and the shop stewards, if the location even has one, that give a mouse's behind about the union... at least until those disengaged CMs are being investigated for disciplinary action, then they become temporary union fanboys.

Communication/engagement aside, if I were a betting man, I'd say they could muster maybe 5% of the represented cast to actually show up to strike. The rest would decline to participate for a plethora of reasons, with the most common being economic.

Certainly not enough to make a difference at most locations across property.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

There's a better chance of the next spy balloon being launched from the China pavilion in EPCOT than a fruitful union strike at WDW.

I think people apply their northeastern/midwestern/west coast teachings casually to all wdw labor discussions…they don’t really apply.

The best “tool” in a Disney unions Arsenal is the presence of Comcast, bars and 130 TGI Fridays on I-Drive to lure people away

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Communication/engagement aside, if I were a betting man, I'd say they could muster maybe 5% of the represented cast to actually show up to strike. The rest would decline to participate for a plethora of reasons, with the most common being economic.

Certainly not enough to make a difference at most locations across property.

 

[Brian]

The best “tool” in a Disney unions Arsenal is the presence of Comcast, bars and 130 TGI Fridays on I-Drive to lure people away

I've long wondered if Universal would dare launch a PR campaign targeting Disney CMs during these protracted contract negotiations.

"Disney may not give you $20 an hour, but we'll give you $17" would be far more effective at resolving this matter than any picketing the STCU can organize.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I've long wondered if Universal would dare launch a PR campaign targeting Disney CMs during these protracted contract negotiations.

"Disney may not give you $20 an hour, but we'll give you $17" would be far more effective at resolving this matter than any picketing the STCU can organize.

No PR campaign (it would really tick off the chamber of commerce)

But they have pilfered labor for years…very quietly in 2020 and 2021

The bobs really messed up.

They laid off for zero reason…then set “lines” they won’t cross and as such makes them a ripe target to pick

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

No PR campaign (it would really tick off the chamber of commerce)

It may really tickle the state government though who seem to want to teach the mouse a lesson.

 

[Disone]

I've long wondered if Universal would dare launch a PR campaign targeting Disney CMs during these protracted contract negotiations.

"Disney may not give you $20 an hour, but we'll give you $17" would be far more effective at resolving this matter than any picketing the STCU can organize.

I don't think Universal would be doing the union any favors if they did that. Universal would have to match or exceed what Disney is offering.

They haven't done it so far with the current extended contract, I don't foresee them doing so with the new contract. This actually works in Disney's favor. It adds legitimacy to WDW's argument that the current contract is a solid offer.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think Universal would be doing the union any favors if they did that. Universal would have to match or exceed what Disney is offering.

They haven't done it so far with the current extended contract, I don't foresee them doing so with the new contract. This actually works in Disney's favor. It adds legitimacy to WDW's argument that the current contract is a solid offer.

Universal will pay more if they have too…they have done it in the past and look for that to ramp up.

 

[Disone]

Universal will pay more if they have too…they have done it in the past and look for that to ramp up.

I'm not sure. They did not on the current contract, match Disney's starting pay of $15 an hour. Universal starts at $14. So yes they ramped up but no they did not match. And then this next contract was going to build on that 15. So it's doubtful that universal was going to make an offer that was the same or greater. Yes they were going to ramp up but who knows that they were actually going to match.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm not sure. They did not on the current contract, match Disney's starting pay of $15 an hour. Universal starts at $14. So yes they ramped up but no they did not match. And then this next contract was going to build on that 15. So it's doubtful that universal was going to make an offer that was the same or greater. Yes they were going to ramp up but who knows that they were actually going to match.

Universal went to $15 minimum 2 years ago…unless they withdrew that promise for some reason?

Universal Studios Orlando Raises Wages To $15, Putting Pressure On Other Theme Parks

Universal Orlando Raises Wages To $15, Putting Pressure On Other Theme Parks

deadline.com

 

[oreo1124]

I'm not sure. They did not on the current contract, match Disney's starting pay of $15 an hour. Universal starts at $14. So yes they ramped up but no they did not match. And then this next contract was going to build on that 15. So it's doubtful that universal was going to make an offer that was the same or greater. Yes they were going to ramp up but who knows that they were actually going to match.

It would have been so easy to actually look this up. Universal got to 15 shortly before Disney's raises were completed.

 

[Disone]

Universal went to $15 minimum 2 years ago…unless they withdrew that promise for some reason?

Universal Studios Orlando Raises Wages To $15, Putting Pressure On Other Theme Parks

Universal Orlando Raises Wages To $15, Putting Pressure On Other Theme Parks

deadline.com

According to Glassdoor, they started $14 an hour for an attractions host. So I guess it's not $15 across the board. Or glass door has outdated information. Both are definitely possible.

 

[mkt]

There's a better chance of the next spy balloon being launched from the China pavilion in EPCOT than a fruitful union strike at WDW.

But there's a solid chance of a sickout.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But there's a solid chance of a sickout.

Not likely…you gotta work to get paid…and they don’t get paid much

 

[JoeCamel]

But there's a solid chance of a sickout.

Not likely…you gotta work to get paid…and they don’t get paid much

They keep them lean and there are bills to be paid, best way to bust a strike

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They keep them lean and there are bills to be paid, best way to bust a strike

It never materializes…

…Scotty can’t fix that transporter

 

[JoeCamel]

It never materializes…

…Scotty can’t fix that transporter

Screw the transporter get the replicator working ,they need bodies

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Screw the transporter get the replicator working ,they need bodies