Disney Treasure, DCL’s 6th ship, debuts in 2024

Tha Realest

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For what it's worth the prices are for a cruise over Christmas so it was going to be expensive. But yeah, media is going to pick up on the high starting prices and people will probably be turned off before quoting other more reasonably* priced dates.

*Reasonably in terms of Disney pricing because it's still going to be very expensive compared to competitors
Imagine dropping $14K so you and your family can be beta testers
 

LAKid53

Official Member of the Girly Girl Fan Club
Premium Member
You can easily drop that over Christmas on the other ships too. I would love to sail over Christmas Day but just too expensive. And at this point, same over summer months.

We did a Christmas week on the Dream back in 2019. It wasn't cheap, for sure. But nowhere near $14K.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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The themes are (in my opinion) more fun than those on the Wish. But, it sure looks like they didn't try to address the biggest problems from the Wish.
I had the exact same reaction watching the video, it’s nearly identical to the Wish, new themes but they didn’t address any of the issues we had like the undersized bars, lounges, pool areas, restaurants, etc. On our Wish trip our biggest complaints were all around seating issues, doing trivia while standing seriously diminishes the fun, same with getting a drink and having to lean against a wall because there’s no tables, having waiters constantly bumping into your chair at dinner because tables are so close, etc. Guess all the Triton class ships are just going to be crowded, I’m still not sure how they managed to make the biggest ships feel like the smallest.

I would take this ship over the Wish all day. I think it markets to the entire family (and adults without kids) much better than the princess theme.
I thought the same, looks better than the Wish but that’s a lower bar than the other classes, it’s would still place 5th out of 6 ships for me. Having done all 3 classes now I’d place Wonder 1st, Dream 2nd, and Wish 3rd.

That said I’d happily sail on any of them again, the itinerary would be a much bigger factor for us than the ship.

Except the Dream didn't sell too well in Europe. I think a smaller ship would be more appropriate, like the Magic
We just got back from the Norway Fjords cruise and if it wasn’t sold out it had to have been close, it was busy everywhere we went onboard.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I’ve cruised in Europe several times on DCL. Europeans are not snooty and many Americans can afford to fly there. What an ignorant thing to say.

The flights to Europe are always full and so are the ships. I cruised on RCCL in the Med this May and DCL in Northern Europe last month. Both sailings were sold out with Mostly Americans onboard.
I'm going to guess only one of the two of us has any actual visibility into what Disney Cruise Line bookings were like this summer, and it isn't you.

Disney Dream bookings were soft ALL summer and the reason is because international flights were prohibitively expense. I don't really care if you believe me or if you have a problem with the joking way I phrased it, but those are the facts.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
You can easily drop that over Christmas on the other ships too. I would love to sail over Christmas Day but just too expensive. And at this point, same over summer months.
Summer fares are crazy lately! I thought people were afraid of the heat and storms…it’s cheaper during Spring Break in March than it is in July. Meanwhile, WDW is dead in July. I wonder why people will sail from PC but not go to WDW?
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
If by "promotions" you mean 70% discounted Cast Member rates, sure, they got bodies on the ship. But I think that kind of undersells it.
I think it’s pretty clear that Disney expected to do better in Europe than actually occurred. I am no expert on the reasons, though. Personally, I wouldn’t pay the Disney mark-up for a port-heavy European cruise. We were on Wonder of the Seas from Barcelona last summer and I thought we were barely on the ship.
 

King Panda 77

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
I think it’s pretty clear that Disney expected to do better in Europe than actually occurred. I am no expert on the reasons, though. Personally, I wouldn’t pay the Disney mark-up for a port-heavy European cruise. We were on Wonder of the Seas from Barcelona last summer and I thought we were barely on the ship.
I think it may well be a combination of price and itinerary in Europe.
We have two 4 night btb cruises booked for next year from Southampton. Was cheaper to do that option than a seven nighter to Norway.
Can't comment on discounted cabins to raise occupancy but all three European cruises we have been on have been pretty full. Predominantly British on board but a large contingency of international travelers.
 

Indy_UK

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Only the first time cruisers do. And the head for Sir Frogs or whatever that bar is.

We made that mistake of getting off the ship last week at Nassau being our first cruise, outside of the fenced 'tourist' area of about 20 market stores, I felt like my husband and I were going to get our heads kicked in for being gay. Didn't feel like a Safe area at all and God knows why Disney actually dock there. It must be a contractual thing
 

Tiggerish

Resident Redhead
Premium Member
We made that mistake of getting off the ship last week at Nassau being our first cruise, outside of the fenced 'tourist' area of about 20 market stores, I felt like my husband and I were going to get our heads kicked in for being gay. Didn't feel like a Safe area at all and God knows why Disney actually dock there. It must be a contractual thing
It is definitely a contractual thing that they stop there.

I first visited Nassau on freshman year spring break in 1982, and I and another of my group of six got mugged.

Almost 20 years of growing up in New York City, and I had to go to Nassau to have my purse snatched. Never been back, won't set foot.off the ship in Nassau. DCL do a great onboard buffet on Nassau day. Or.I grab a lounger and read a book. .
 

Miss Bella

Well-Known Member
I'm going to guess only one of the two of us has any actual visibility into what Disney Cruise Line bookings were like this summer, and it isn't you.

Disney Dream bookings were soft ALL summer and the reason is because international flights were prohibitively expense. I don't really care if you believe me or if you have a problem with the joking way I phrased it, but those are the facts.
I'm very well aware that DCL discounted many of their European cruises which brought them from being 4 times more than their competitors to about double. I'm assuming the same will happen next year. I've been on over 30 DCL cruises I'm very aware of their pricing structures. Don't worry DCL does not lose money on their cruises.

My husband works for a major airline and I can assure you flights to Europe were full this Summer. I do have access to flight loads. They didn't start easing up until August. You can take your condescending not-it-all all attitude elsewhere. Sorry you can't afford a flight to Europe.

Your comments about Europeans being snooty is probably because you've never been there.
 

Miss Bella

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If by "promotions" you mean 70% discounted Cast Member rates, sure, they got bodies on the ship. But I think that kind of undersells it.
They do that on select cruises leaving the USA too. 70% off on a European DCL cruise is like the full price on Royal. I'm not sure what your hate for Europe is, but it's really boorish. My 12-night cruise on Royal was cheaper at full price than my 11-night discounted cruise on DCL by a lot.
 

Miss Bella

Well-Known Member
It seems like Disney made an error this year by sending a bigger ship with more capacity whilst increasing the prices significantly and there wasn’t the initial demand for that.

They ran promotions and got the ship full for most itineraries from reports I have seen.

The Magic has consistently sold out in Europe so I don’t see the Dream being a problem as long as they refine their pricing strategy or are happy with high pricing and last minute discounting. They have room to discount as pricing is typically double comparable quality cruises in Europe.
There were discounts on the Magic too. There are always discounts. They've overpriced the Dream, but that doesn't mean when they offer GT rates of 35% off it's still not overpriced. They will reel in as many suckers as they can at full price, and then offer GT rates at what people think is a great price, and then offer CM rates and interlines rates to fill the remaining rooms. The CM rates and interline rates are about what a normal cruise would cost on any other line. Disney is not losing money.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
It seems like Disney made an error this year by sending a bigger ship with more capacity whilst increasing the prices significantly and there wasn’t the initial demand for that.

They ran promotions and got the ship full for most itineraries from reports I have seen.

The Magic has consistently sold out in Europe so I don’t see the Dream being a problem as long as they refine their pricing strategy or are happy with high pricing and last minute discounting. They have room to discount as pricing is typically double comparable quality cruises in Europe.

Is there a high cancellation rate?

We booked our cruise 6+ months prior and there wasn’t a single mid ship family veranda available, we managed to snag a cancelled one a few months later but the friend we travelled with never did find one, she ended up in a veranda room near the back.

I‘m fairly new to cruising but I’m surprised to hear about such big discounts being offered giving there’s been very few (to no) rooms available to choose from on our 3 cruises. I’ve watched YouTube videos where people got pretty substantial discounts by doing guaranteed room types and letting the company pick the room but I’m trying to figure out if we’re overpaying by booking in advance and paying list price to get the room we want where we want it.
 

Miss Bella

Well-Known Member
I think it’s pretty clear that Disney expected to do better in Europe than actually occurred. I am no expert on the reasons, though. Personally, I wouldn’t pay the Disney mark-up for a port-heavy European cruise. We were on Wonder of the Seas from Barcelona last summer and I thought we were barely on the ship.
If you look at Disney prices next year in Europe they will never sell. 11,200 for an inside room 2 people on the Iceland\Noraway cruise. Not happening. You could do that cruise on a balcony on another cruise line for about 4k. In fact, we did that cruise in a balcony room for 7k Disney Magic in 2016 and there were four of us. The only reason Disney didn't do better in Europe is the overpricing. It's the same strategy they use at their resorts price them at 800 dollars a night and then discount them 35% and people think they are getting some great deal.
 

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