Disney Treasure, DCL’s 6th ship, debuts in 2024

[LAKid53]

@wdwmagic

Some maiden voyage pricing info is on the website that I don't know if I've seen reported yet.

Starts Easten Carribbean to Tortula, St. Thomas, and Castaway Cay. No mentioned of Lighthouse Point.

Starting prices for 2 and 4 are also below.

EDITED after seeing I had some pricing for 12.28 sailing included mistakenly

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Holy , nearly $25K for a family Concierge stateroom? Yikes.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Eh, I think it's be difficult to have an adventure themed ship and not have a lounge similar to this JC one. That they'll tie in corny jokes and references to the attractions is, I think, a positive.

Zootopia and Coco are not used very much in parks so they don't feel like tapping the same well repeatedly, at least imo. (But ask me again in a few years after if the runored WDW park additions happen.) Even the Lion King area looks more primarily designed as African adventure with Lion King more as an afterthought to hit a check box. I mean, it's not like it's throwing up simbas. everywhere. The Zootopia sweet shop shop? I thought it was pretty clever. It's not as though they just plopped something like "Goofy's Candy Company ... At Sea!" as an option.

But another Beauty and the Beast stage show is another matter. I'm sure it'll be beautiful but that's one I'd love to see something different. Tangled, Jungle Book, Aladdin, Peter Pan, and ***Treasure Planet*** would have been great and fit the overall theme better than Beauty and the Beast.

I was under the impression that Beauty and the Beast was a placeholder, no? I thought they wanted each ship to have an exclusive show and isn't that the only show exclusive to the Dream?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Holy , nearly $25K for a family Concierge stateroom? Yikes.

I fully support Disney milking the blogger-industrial complex until they're chapped and dry.

 

[LAKid53]

Hi. Honestly have you been on the Wish? First... I DO get your criticism of the ship. Some of it is spot on but some comes across a little bit of... Ax to grind?

The elevators are a serious flaw. Not just the fact that they didn't have buttons, which they have now corrected, but also just how long a narrow they are. If you're in the back of the elevator and it's your floor, everyone has to get off so that you can get off.

No wraparound promenade deck was also a design choice that probably should not have been made.

Lots of pools but mostly just wading pools. And a severe lack of hot tubs for the adults, unless you are concierge, then you get two just for concierge. Although I've seen some pictures that indicate the Treasure is correcting this.

I do think the small adult area is more reflective of the fact that when you go to the adult area on the dream, the wonder, the fantasy, or the magic, it's pretty desolate after 10:00 or 11:00 p.m. almost no one is there. It's not the case that Disney Cruise line has great nightlife. They do have some great nightlife facilities but they never really turn out to facilitate a great nightlife experience. I was on a 6th night cruise, thanks to a hurricane, on the Disney Wish most of it was spent at sea. We had one day in Nassau and one day at the private island. So four Seasons days on the ship. I honestly, and perhaps even surprisingly, did not find myself missing the larger adult district.

Food on the upper decks was largely an upgrade compared to the rest of the fleet. Marceline market is expansive but overall about the same type of experience that cabanas can offer. However the auxiliary food offerings on the top deck, the Wishes Carnival of Foods absolutely exceeds the current standard on the other ships.

For rotational dining I would say the wish is second to the magic class. Dream and fantasy are the weak link when it comes to rotational dining. Dream They have the weaker version of animators palette and the secret garden is just.... Eh. For the main rotational dining I would say the original magic class still do it best. have the best version of animators palette and honestly there dinner show experiences in both tangled and most especially Tiana, for better than arendelle on the wish. I'll be interested to see how Coco turns out on the treasure.

Overall I would say the Triton class is the weakest link of the three classes of ships. I'm a platinum cruiser with DCL so like so many others I tend to like the older class better. That doesn't make the newer class inferior and certainly doesn't make it a failure.

One of the improvements that everyone seems to like on the treasure is the lobby, the grand hall if you will. Me not so much, I find it way too dark.

I agree that the pool deck offerings on the Wish are vastly superior to the other 4 ships.

However, I intensely dislike Arendelle...both the food and the noise. 1923 is an excellent restaurant. I don't have an issue with the restaurants on the Dream and Fantasy. Except the Pirates Night menu. On ANY of the 5 ships.

Agree about the elevators, especially the lack of midship elevators. Glad that DCL has switched out those damn buttons.

And the lack of a fully walkable promenade deck 4 was a BIG mistake. While the Wish is lovely, I'm not fond of it. And like you, I'm also Platinum Castaway Cay member. My cruise later this month is on the Magic...can't wait...so I will have sailed in all 5.

The Treasure just isn't doing it for me.

The Concierge sundecks on the Magic, Wonder, Dream and Fantasy only have 1 hot tub.

 

[LAKid53]

I fully support Disney milking the blogger-industrial complex until they're chapped and dry.

I normally sail Concierge. But I can't sail the maiden voyage next year, even if there are staterooms by the time they get to my Platinum level. I assume the bookings will be like the Wish: Pearl, then break out Platinum into various levels: 21-25, 16-20, 11-15. Then Gold. Then Silver. I'm in the Platinum midrange.

 

[mickEblu]

I'm not overly familiar with all the itineraries, to be honest. We've gone into Nassau once in 4 cruises, and that was the only time we ever did and have no plans to do so again.

We went on our first Disney Cruise this past April on the Dream. Had I known what I know now I would have stayed on the ship for our St. Thomas stop. It was just a lesser version of what we experienced the day before in Tortola. I’m starting to think there’s no good reason to get off on many of the Caribbean stops. At least not just to end up at a crowded beach eating bar food. I’ve been to St Thomas, Tortola, St John, Turks and Caicos (the capital not Providenciales- found that out the hard way when our ship docked), Belize, The Bahamas and a few other islands. If I were on a cruise, I wouldn’t Feel the need to get off the ship to go to any of them again. There isn't anything culturally that stands out or is all that interesting. The food isn’t that great. It’s not worth the hassle.

Not to say there wasn’t some beautiful beaches. Trunk Bay on St. John was stunning. But I didn’t enjoy any of the stops as much as I enjoy Cancun for example. The only places I’d probably get off the ship for at this point would be Puerto Rico, Jamaica, (Cuba if that ever happens) and Cozumel and I imagine they may be one and done’s too. At least as a 6-8 hour cruise stop. I’ll be targeting cruises with multiple Castaway Cay/ Lighthouse Point stops in the future. Just makes so much more sense with young kids. Not many of those islands are worth the hassle.

 

[LAKid53]

Beauty and the beast on the dream is very well done. This is not the show from Hollywood studios. The only thing those two things have in common is the name. Vastly superior in production values and scope is the beauty and the beast that is on the dream as it is Genuinely on Broadway show caliber production. I'm glad it's getting on the trailer. I felt both Aladdin and Little mermaid fell a little flat on the Wish. The best show on the Wish is the too short Goofy's Seas the adventure show.

Also the treasure map of the Disney treasure shows tangled on the right hand side so I Wonder if that will be the second major show.

Which brings up another shortcoming of the Triton class. Why do they only have two major productions? All the other ships have three.

Shhhhh. I'd also I agree. I think the Magic and the Wonders days are numbered. I was genuinely surprised and relieved that the Magic received a structural addition of a concierge lounge to its top decks and it's very recent to dry dock. Investments like that give me hope that the ship has a little bit more than just 5 years left to it.

I was surprised how big the Concierge Lounge in the Wonder was. Certainly bigger than the Dream or Fantasy. And the Wish's is huge. Love the addition of hot food for breakfast.

 

[Andrew C]

know now I would have stayed on the ship for our St. Thomas stop.

Gotta do Magens bay at least once.

 

[Andrew C]

Belize

Did cave tubing there. That was fun.

 

[LAKid53]

We went on our first Disney Cruise this past April on the Dream. Had I known what I know now I would have stayed on the ship for our St. Thomas stop. It was just a lesser version of what we experienced the day before in Tortola. I’m starting to think there’s no good reason to get off on many of the Caribbean stops. At least not just to end up at a crowded beach eating bar food. I’ve been to St Thomas, Tortola, St John, Turks and Caicos (the capital not Providenciales- found that out the hard way when our ship docked), Belize, The Bahamas and a few other islands. If I were on a cruise, I wouldn’t Feel the need to get off the ship to go to any of them again. There isn't anything culturally that stands out or is all that interesting. The food isn’t that great. It’s not worth the hassle.

Not to say there wasn’t some beautiful beaches. Trunk Bay on St. John was stunning. But I didn’t enjoy any of the stops as much as I enjoy Cancun for example. The only places I’d probably get off the ship for at this point would be Puerto Rico, Jamaica and Cozumel and I imagine they may be one and done’s. At least as a 6-8 hour cruise stop. I’ll be targeting cruises with multiple Castaway Cay/ Lighthouse Point stops in the future. Just makes so much more sense with young kids. Not many of those islands are worth the hassle.

I wasn't impressed with the ports on the 7 night eastern Caribbean. But the plantation we visited in Falmouth Jamaica during the western was lovely. The view was amazing.

 

[Disone]

The Treasure just isn't doing it for me.

The Concierge sundecks on the Magic, Wonder, Dream and Fantasy only have 1 hot tub.

Aware. Although I was referencing that the wish has two hot tubs on its concierge sun deck. While the rest of the ship has a total of one hot tub for everyone else to enjoy. That was a head scratcher for me. The entire population of the cruise ship, aside from concierge guest, have access to one hot tub.

Maybe that was intentional as way to sell more passes to the rainforest room? But probably more just an oversight as someone posted pictures of what appears to be more hot tubs being built on the bow of the Disney treasure and a public area space that is not the rainforest pay for area.

Time will tell. I didn't dislike arendelle but it did come in under my expectations. I was expecting it to be better than Tiana's on the wonder and Rapunzel's on the Magic. Tiana's was first to debut and is easily the best of the three. Rapunzel's came later and didn't quite live up to the same experience as Tiana's. And then arendelle, wow. It has all the bills and whistles and the space was purpose designed to do what it does. And I had a perfect table right by the stage. But easily it did not compare to the experience of both Tiana's and Rapunzel's.

 

[mickEblu]

Gotta do Magens bay at least once.

We did. Actually did it about 10 years ago when we went to St Thomas for wife’s best friends wedding (not on a cruise). It was raining, lightning/ Thunder the whole deal. We were the only people there and it was invigorating. This past April on the cruise it was a beautiful day at Maegans Bay but it was very crowded and we had pretty much the same but better experience the day before on Tortola at Cane Garden Bay with 1/3 the crowds.

 

[LAKid53]

Aware. Although I was referencing that the wish has two hot tubs on its concierge sun deck. While the rest of the ship has a total of one hot tub for everyone else to enjoy. That was a head scratcher for me. The entire population of the cruise ship, aside from concierge guest, have access to one hot tub.

Maybe that was intentional as way to sell more passes to the rainforest room? But probably more just an oversight as someone posted pictures of what appears to be more hot tubs being built on the bow of the Disney treasure and a public area space that is not the rainforest pay for area.

Time will tell. I didn't dislike arendelle but it did come in under my expectations. I was expecting it to be better than Tiana's on the wonder and Rapunzel's on the Magic. Tiana's was first to debut and is easily the best of the three. Rapunzel's came later and didn't quite live up to the same experience as Tiana's. And then arendelle, wow. It has all the bills and whistles and the space was purpose designed to do what it does. And I had a perfect table right by the stage. But easily it did not compare to the experience of both Tiana's and Rapunzel's.

I didn't like that I had to scream to talk to the person sitting across from me. With all the hard surfaces, it's just too loud. And sometimes the singers voices were distorted. Just turn down the volume.

I never made it to the adult area on the Wish, as, unlike other the ships, it's aft.

 

[Doberge]

I was under the impression that Beauty and the Beast was a placeholder, no? I thought they wanted each ship to have an exclusive show and isn't that the only show exclusive to the Dream?

I may be incorrect, it happens a lot, but I've understood BatB as one show plus a new second show.

I'm sure it's a fantastic show. My thought is just that it's been done many times before. Encanto is another one that I think could be well done and popular.

 

[Miss Bella]

I didn’t like the Wish. I have no interest in sailing on the Treasure. The only reason I would ever do another DCL Caribbean or Bahamas cruise would be to see lighthouse point and it looks like this was is going to castaway.

 

[Miss Bella]

They couldn't fill the one ship they sent to Europe. Europeans are too snooty for Disney cruises and Americans can't afford to fly there.

I'm not saying 7 ships are too many, I'm just pushing back on this silly (IMO) idea that people are throwing around that they're going to run 5 of 7 ships out of Florida year-round. It's not going to happen.

I’ve cruised in Europe several times on DCL. Europeans are not snooty and many Americans can afford to fly there. What an ignorant thing to say.

The flights to Europe are always full and so are the ships. I cruised on RCCL in the Med this May and DCL in Northern Europe last month. Both sailings were sold out with Mostly Americans onboard.

 

[cjkeating]

Is Australia/Oceana viable all year?

I don’t know the background to the sea days only Australia cruises but that doesn’t seem viable in the long term to me? Unless the Australian cruise market is different to everywhere else.

Or maybe they retire the Magic, which would break my heart.

Honestly don’t see the Magic/Wonder being retired until at least the next 2 class of ships are announced. Which is likely 10+ years away. Unless they flop with 8 ships or there is another pandemic etc.

 

[cjkeating]

Shocked they didn’t retheme Wonderland and Neverland.

I just expected more spaces to be different than Wish. Kid spaces being exactly the same is also a surprise. Did they have a skeleton crew at WDI on this?

I think this is one of the flaws on the way they are branding the new ships. The first four all have a broad “modern classical cruise liner by Disney” theme which allows them to mix things up. Common areas are nautical, Disney thrown in here and there, same for more typical cruise aspects like adult areas or bars.

The new ships latch on to a theme like “Wish” which was marketed as a “castle on sea” except it doesn’t fulfil the promise. Why Marvel? Why Walt and Roy? Why Star Wars? None of that is princess like the lobby, rooms, a restaurant and a bar. It’s just random stuff.

Now with the Treasure the problem is unlike the Magic and Dream class where copy and paste worked just fine for many areas. Here you have the problem they everything that was very Wish/Princess need retheming (the rooms, corridors, atrium) but then you are left with things that don’t get rethemed (because they spent so much time retheming the Wish common areas) or never fit the Wish and don’t fit the Treasure either.

It’s such a mess.

 

[cjkeating]

They couldn't fill the one ship they sent to Europe.

It seems like Disney made an error this year by sending a bigger ship with more capacity whilst increasing the prices significantly and there wasn’t the initial demand for that.

They ran promotions and got the ship full for most itineraries from reports I have seen.

The Magic has consistently sold out in Europe so I don’t see the Dream being a problem as long as they refine their pricing strategy or are happy with high pricing and last minute discounting. They have room to discount as pricing is typically double comparable quality cruises in Europe.

 

[King Panda 77]

It seems like Disney made an error this year by sending a bigger ship with more capacity whilst increasing the prices significantly and there wasn’t the initial demand for that.

They ran promotions and got the ship full for most itineraries from reports I have seen.

The Magic has consistently sold out in Europe so I don’t see the Dream being a problem as long as they refine their pricing strategy or are happy with high pricing and last minute discounting. They have room to discount as pricing is typically double comparable quality cruises in Europe.

I don't think they will adjust the price . 2024 sailings are somewhat on the expensive side. Although it varies by itinerary.