Disney to Reveal Ambitious Star Wars Plans

bhg469

bhg469

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tk924 said:
Does this seem possible then?

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Or maybe even this?
I don't know what has been rumored to be closing, so I'm just guessing here.

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If BLT and LMA are being used for something Pixar, then this seems like a possibility. Amiright?
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yes, but you're missing the parking lot that will be possibly be swallowed up. Its actually a pretty big expansion if it happnes.
 
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doctornick

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tk924 said:
But, seriously. Does anyone know how plausible this is?

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I read that if you take out the backlot tour and Lights-Motors-Action that there is ~13 acres that could be used.
The only weird thing with this possible setup is that it would separate the SW theme.
Rumors, speculation...all good fun. Isn't it? Just like the new SW movie(s).
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As has been noted, the former BLT area will almost certainly be going to Pixar stuff (Toy Story, Cars, maybe others).

However, in regards to the idea of having separate Star Wars areas in the same park... I previously have argued for that point. I think you could do a nice Star Wars are set to a specific theme (say, Tatooine) in the current Echo Lake area. Then, in the future, have a Phase 2 in another area of the park -- I'm thinking west of RNR/Animation Courtyward, currently backstage) and build a second Star Wars land themed to a different planet (e.g. Endor, Coruscant, Naboo, something in the new movies, etc.) and connect the two lands via a "hyperspace flight" ride that is transport along the edge of the park similar in function to the Hogwart's Express.

Would be a great way to:
1. Have different themed worlds for SW without having them next to each other with contrasting themes
2. Use the space in the park better to have more SW and being able to add it in phases to spread out the impact
3. Add in park transport which is needed for both crowd movement and added kinetics.
 
Kman101

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ford91exploder said:
Or more likely not at all - except for cantina and meet-n-grope
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I normally agree with you on a lot of things, but in this case, I do think that we will get a heavy presence and a lot of our insiders seem to believe it will be better than what DL will get. That being said, what "that" is remains to be seen.

I 100% think we will get more than a meet and grope and Cantina.
 
PhotoDave219

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epcotWSC said:
This is all a failure in my opinion. The end of this year is going to be star wars mania. There should have least been some attractions opened before the end of this year. With the rate Disney builds stuff, we're not going to see these attractions open until the 3rd movie is ready to come out.
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So 38 years of mania and you're now going to call it dead?

Also the third movie came out in 1983…
 
Lord_Vader

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Bocabear said:
I don't know what is driving attendance for DHS... possibly the convenience of having another Disney Park to visit while you are there... If DHS was a standalone park it probably would have gone the way of Boardwalk and Baseball or Splendid China by now. IOA is in every way a superior park to DHS...not sure why the attendance numbers do not reflect this.
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Because with a park hopper you can go to MK or EC at the end of your day. If you watch all the shows the park has, even most of the shows and do the drawing seminar and/or OMD you have spent a full day for the cost of an add-on which is around $10 extra once you have five-day tix.
 
marni1971

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This is by no means what's now being planned.

Rather a compilation of what's been proposed over the last few years for this particular project. As you can see a lot of the existing park is untouched and there is space elsewhere for other projects.

Of note are the white reconfigured single entry road after the toll plaza and a new exit onto Victory Way, the white reconfigured and expanded non regular-parking area for transportation and entry, the yellow reconfigured / expanded / decked guest parking and the orange fully realised land available for the project.

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Again this is NOT definite nor confirmed in any way, shape or form.

It could be as big as this ultimately. Or it could be just a canteen and a training stage as was also proposed.

Proposals that also kept Indy intact, removed the Backlot Express, or removed both.
 
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Lord_Vader

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Kman101 said:
I love LOTR and Star Trek, but I can't see them driving the attendance like Harry Potter did. I guess we'll see.
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Agreeing with you...

10 years ago I could have seen Star Trek driving attendance, unless they drop a new series that does well soon that boat has sailed.

LOTR, well I was excited about the franchise but after The Hobbit was split into three movies with a bunch of added C**P to draw it out further I have lost interest as have many of my peers.
 
ford91exploder

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Kman101 said:
I normally agree with you on a lot of things, but in this case, I do think that we will get a heavy presence and a lot of our insiders seem to believe it will be better than what DL will get. That being said, what "that" is remains to be seen.

I 100% think we will get more than a meet and grope and Cantina.
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I hope you are correct, Like I said I've always been a glass 3/4 empty guy, I am rarely disappointed however because of that.
 
righttrack

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As for Star Wars driving attendance, you'll have to analyze what Star Wars Weekends does to attendance every year. In addition to that, if you compare Harry Potter at Universal you've got a challenge. The "Harry Potter Generation" is easing into it's twenties. The twenties are not strong years for theme parks. They are years where these kids are just getting started. They are moving into apartments, worried about getting jobs, etc. Big vacations may not be on the horizon until they have children. Once they stop going on their parents' vacations you might see a drop off. The "Star Wars Generation" is long. My age, late 40s, through 20s and 30s due to the prequels and resurgence. Add some new movies into the mix and Rebels to introduce to a younger generation and you've got more "legs" to Star Wars than you do with Harry Potter, for now at least.
 
Lord_Vader

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righttrack said:
As for Star Wars driving attendance, you'll have to analyze what Star Wars Weekends does to attendance every year. In addition to that, if you compare Harry Potter at Universal you've got a challenge. The "Harry Potter Generation" is easing into it's twenties. The twenties are not strong years for theme parks. They are years where these kids are just getting started. They are moving into apartments, worried about getting jobs, etc. Big vacations may not be on the horizon until they have children. Once they stop going on their parents' vacations you might see a drop off. The "Star Wars Generation" is long. My age, late 40s, through 20s and 30s due to the prequels and resurgence. Add some new movies into the mix and Rebels to introduce to a younger generation and you've got more "legs" to Star Wars than you do with Harry Potter, for now at least.
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Agree...

My daughter (22yo) and son (17yo) are both SW fans too, maybe through a little fault of mine... My daughter isn't crazy about it, likes it and will (ironically) be taking her first vacation on her own dime to WDW the last week of May through the first week of June.

Anyway, my point is SW is multi-generational from eight year olds play fighting with lightsabers thanks to SW:Rebels and SW:Clone Wars, my children's generation because of the re-releases and EP1, EP2 & EP3, now with the new movies coming out over the next five years this generation of children may fall into the fold as well. There will be an age range from nearly retired to still playing with plastic toys, and many SW fans are absolutely rabid when it comes to purchases.

Look at the number of SW#1 comics were sold, I believe it was a record at over 1M copies.
 
Kman101

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ford91exploder said:
I hope you are correct, Like I said I've always been a glass 3/4 empty guy, I am rarely disappointed however because of that.
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I agree. Especially seeing Disney's track record in Florida over the last how many years, but I'm willing to give them this one. For now. I admit it shocks me that we'd actually get something better than they get in Disneyland and it almost seems too good to be true.
 
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mahnamahna101

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Kman101 said:
I love LOTR and Star Trek, but I can't see them driving the attendance like Harry Potter did. I guess we'll see.
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LOTR and Star Trek are just to keep people coming. Both are timeless, long-standing franchises that are worth getting into Universal Orlando to keep the pressure on Disney World.

However, Nintendo/retro video games... that would be a big draw with families and kids. LOTR is still pretty huge though - a brilliantly executed Middle Earth area would bring in the crowds for sure.

Personally speaking, I'd love it if Uni did something akin to this:

USF
  1. Soarin' esque ride themed to Wicked - The Musical (Twister replacement)
  2. Universal's Cinematic Experience two-story Omnimover (Shrek/Lucy replacement) with scenes from Jaws, Frankenstein, Dracula, The Mummy, Psycho, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Birds, The Sting, Earthquake, Jaws, Animal House, Halloween, Back to the Future, teen movie scene (Ridgemont High, John Hughes, Dazed and Confused), Apollo 13, the Bourne series as the finale, and Ted as the conclusion.
  3. Mummy revamp/upgrades
  4. San Francisco rehaul - bulldozed for a Fast and Furious E-ticket (Disaster/Beetlejuice replacement)
  5. Diagon mini-expansion - Weasley Bros Fantasyland-style dark ride
  6. London expansion - Sherlock show (Choose Your Own Adventure format) and Doctor Who E-ticket: ToT meets Adventures Through Inner Space meets Poseidon's Fury in terms of format (Fear Factor replacement/expansion)
  7. MIB upgrades (rethemed to London, new AAs/effects, etc)
  8. Japan (MIB/Springfield expansion plot): features Godzilla dark ride, Hello Kitty mini-land (segues to KidZone revamp), martial arts show, Attack on Titan coaster
  9. KidZone revamp - SpongeBob Splash Battle/play area, Chum Bucket replaces KidZone Pizza, TMNT family indoor coaster, Coraline trackless dark ride, Dora mini-land (flat ride and play area), MLP mini-land (boutique, restaurant and flat ride), Curious George revamp and flat ride and a Woody Woodpecker show
  10. Hollywood revamp - E.T. relocated entrance/queue, also refurbed. Gardens of Allah museum, T2 3D upgraded
IOA
  1. Enclose Storm Force, add fog and strobe lights, Storm & Xavier AAs
  2. Replace Doom with ToT-esque indoor E-ticket themed to the Fantastic Four
  3. Retheme Toon Lagoon to Hanna Barbera. Includes Flintstones water coaster, Scooby-Doo dark ride, Jetsons show (by Marvel), upgraded Popeye/Me Ship the Olive and a Rocky & Bullwinkle mini-swings or balloon race flat ride
  4. JP revamp to JW: includes glass pods around the lagoon similar to HE, aquatic dinos dark ride in newly revamped Discovery Center, an amber mine family coaster like SDMT, upgrades for JPRA and CJ, plus an observatory tower in CJ. Pteranodon also gets overhauled to allow adults regularly
  5. HP Phase 3: FJ upgrades including the full covering of the JP side of show building, Great Hall, Forbidden Forest to replace DC... includes Triwizard coaster themed to Everest, Ford Anglia family dark ride, Shrieking Shack show, Whomping Willow flat ride and Flight of the Hippogriff. Ollivanders expanded, too.
  6. Wonka replaces LC: includes family boat ride, Glass Elevator E-ticket, interactive mini-show, and a parachute drop flat ride
  7. Seuss expansion: NBA City and some USF soundstages knocked down for a Mt. Crumpett coaster, Lorax musical/show, Yertle the Turtle flat ride, Horton dark ride and the Noisarium (walkthrough/show). Seuss Trolley gets expanded/revamped. Cat gets an extensive upgrade. 1F2FRFBF moved to Green Eggs and Ham old spot. Green Eggs and Ham relocated to Seuss expansion area.
3rd gate
  1. LOTR
  2. Star Trek
  3. World of Warcraft
  4. Nintendo
  5. Classic Monsters
  6. Mythology (fully fleshed out)
  7. Possibly Japan (only if MIB/Springfield plot was used to expand Springfield)
Some ideas for IPs
 
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doctornick

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Lord_Vader said:
LOTR, well I was excited about the franchise but after The Hobbit was split into three movies with a bunch of added C**P to draw it out further I have lost interest as have many of my peers.
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Yeah, I know the new movies have done well but there seems to be so much less "buzz" regarding The Hobbit than with the LOTR movies. I kinda wish that Jackson had just made The Hobbit into one move (or at worse two) -- three long movies seems t draw it out way too much. I too have lost interest.

(Not to say that I wouldn't absolutely love a Middle Earth area at Uni)
 

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