Disney to make an expansion announcement today.

PurpleRose

PurpleRose

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Jimmy Thick said:
Duke Nukem was nothing more than me saying IGN just posts things to get traffic hits.


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Yes, IGN does post things to get traffic hits. But Duke Nukem had been announced several times to have been in developement by various developers. I was a manager at Game Stop when the most recent announcement came out. We didn't believe it when we were told to start talking pre-orders.
 
M.rudolf

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FrankLapidus said:
You're probably right. There's obviously a reason why things are moving so slowly with Avatarland and I wouldn't be surprised if that is some kind of breakdown in the collaboration between Disney and Cameron but maybe there is some method to it.
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Cameron is a meticulous,demanding man if there is one ounce of doubt in his head this project isn't going anywhere.
 
MerlinTheGoat

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Jimmy Thick said:
Duke Nukem was nothing more than me saying IGN just posts things to get traffic hits.
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And that's different from other news sources how exactly? As stated, all gaming media (and even some mainstream media) was doing the exact same thing with Duke Nukem. It certainly was not IGN, and it had nothing to do with them being reputable or not (even if that came with extra traffic). They posted news about the game because a developer would approach them and tell them the game had been revived and was being worked on again. These developers also usually approached them with clear proof that they were attempting to work on the game (screens, trailers, concept art, tech demos, whatever). Your point is moot, it's the developers whom were teasing the games so much, the news sites were just reported what developers told them to report.

It's no different from how Disney released announcements and concept art to the media for attractions that never came to be (Beastly Kingdom, Western River Expedition, Westcot, etc etc etc). The news reported only what Disney told them and any information or media given to them. Disney is the one that never went through with actually making it happen. And in Duke Nukem Forever's case, the fault of the many developers that made it.
 
M.rudolf

M.rudolf

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MerlinTheGoat said:
And that's different from other news sources how exactly? As stated, all gaming media (and even some mainstream media) was doing the exact same thing with Duke Nukem. It certainly was not IGN, and it had nothing to do with them being reputable or not (even if that came with extra traffic). They posted news about the game because a developer would approach them and tell them the game had been revived and was being worked on again. These developers also usually approached them with clear proof that they were attempting to work on the game (screens, trailers, concept art, tech demos, whatever). Your point is moot, it's the developers whom were teasing the games so much, the news sites were just reported what developers told them to report.
The story quoted here is unsubstantiated the original interview doesn't reference Disney or avatarland that's where the issue is. IGN is a site I frequent daily and they are wrong on occasion

It's no different from how Disney released announcements and concept art to the media for attractions that never came to be (Beastly Kingdom, Western River Expedition, Westcot, etc etc etc). The news reported only what Disney told them and any information or media given to them. Disney is the one that never went through with actually making it happen. And in Duke Nukem Forever's case, the fault of the many developers that made it.
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The issue is the original interview with landau doesn't reference Disney or avatarland. I read ign daily and they do have errors. The problem is they don't factcheck or verify sources. I do agree with you on nukem though
 
SirLink

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M.rudolf said:
The issue is the original interview with landau doesn't reference Disney or avatarland. I read ign daily and they do have errors. The problem is they don't factcheck or verify sources. I do agree with you on nukem though
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They do fact check but its generally not the Lead Producer to speak off the record but getting the poohed off game programmer who has had to work an extra 18 hours in a week/game programmer started early development and is happy about the project They then take that and run with it, and don't de-bias the sources.

P.S. Duke Nukem was a mess because those leading the project kept wanting to push technology to the max and switched over 4 different hardware generations which led to needing to create new art assets, until the publisher Take 2 shut down funding for project. Then revived when Gearbox bought the ip, and is available to buy. Bit OT.
 
M.rudolf

M.rudolf

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SirLink said:
They do fact check but its generally not the Lead Producer to speak off the record but getting the poohed off game programmer who has had to work an extra 18 hours in a week/game programmer started early development and is happy about the project They then take that and run with it, and don't de-bias the sources.

P.S. Duke Nukem was a mess because those leading the project kept wanting to push technology to the max and switched over 4 different hardware generations which led to needing to create new art assets, until the publisher Take 2 shut down funding for project. Then revived when Gearbox bought the ip, and is available to buy. Bit OT.
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I'm not doubting any of this. My point is in the original interview there is no reference to any theme park whatsoever. Hence no facts. I'm going to roll the bus on jimmy for the nukem comment.
Take two's owner is probably a lot like Cameron, start over till its perfect and that's when the original problems began
 
mickey2008.1

mickey2008.1

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Spielberg is very particular as well, but his new Star tours got done on time. Why Cameron would be holding out, if he is, is pure crap. So we still know nothing. All speculation. As for Fantasmic, Fix the show before adding seats.
 
SirLink

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M.rudolf said:
I'm not doubting any of this. My point is in the original interview there is no reference to any theme park whatsoever. Hence no facts. I'm going to roll the bus on jimmy for the nukem comment.
Take two's owner is probably a lot like Cameron, start over till its perfect and that's when the original problems began
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TBH it doesn't take a genius to Google Disneys Avatar project and just see the main media shot. Look at similiar projects and see concept art - go back find none - and then write the story. A blind man could of told you this, to think Disney has poohed off since Frank Wells died - George Lucas, Steven Speilberg, J.K. Rowling, James Cameron and I believe Gore Verbinski. Not to sure if they have poohed off Jerry Bruckheimer.
 
Minthorne

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captainkidd said:
Yeah, I don't get that either. I mean they've got a Star Wars ride, and a Star Wars weekend. The only thing I can think of is that the size would have to be too big. Literally, an entire theme park could be made. You've got Hoth, Endor, Tattooine, Corescant, Naboo. To say nothing of the obvious need for a Death Star.
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Ok, not serious here, but how cool would it be in they redid future world in EPCOT as Star Wars?

Test Track becomes Pod Races
UoE becomes Jawa SandCrawler Tatooine
Soaring becomes Snowspeeder assault
and SpaceShip Earth becomes The Death Star!
 
bhg469

bhg469

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I love star wars but Epcot is and should always remain Epcot. Experimental prototype community of tomorrow. It is my favorite place to visit and I would love future world to improve and not get reinvented.
 
M.rudolf

M.rudolf

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SirLink said:
TBH it doesn't take a genius to Google Disneys Avatar project and just see the main media shot. Look at similiar projects and see concept art - go back find none - and then write the story. A blind man could of told you this, to think Disney has poohed off since Frank Wells died - George Lucas, Steven Speilberg, J.K. Rowling, James Cameron and I believe Gore Verbinski. Not to sure if they have poohed off Jerry Bruckheimer.
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No verbinski is still good, bruckheimer likes anyone who'll give him 50 cent. Spielberg doesntm really like his distribution deal with disney. Lucas is mad at himself for directing prequels. Rowlings happy counting money. We don't know about cameron yet. Going on the net looking for concept art and finding none isn't something to base a story off of. A reporter has to have sources or evidence and verify. Lack of evidence isn't always a good calculator of anything. If Cameron's people are working on this there will be very little evidence. The only leak they had leading up to the movie was a piece of concept art and that was 6 months before release. That's pretty good for a movie that was in production for 7 years. A reporter should only report facts not opinion. That's for an editorial.
 

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