News Disney to launch new Vacation Planning site to help guests with date-based tickets

[Lensman]

Sounds complicated, more onerous and definitely more costly for me and family. As LoNG distance travellers from Vancouver, Canada we visit orlando area for roughly 2 weeks each visit. 5 visits thus far. Typically we buy a 7-8 day pass to use over the two weeks. Now seems we will have to pay extra $50/ head to do the same. 5 in our family! Geesh thanks Disney. How does a 10 day window now make managing logistics so vastly superior to justify punishing long-stay customers such as us, who used to have 14 days? I'm disappointed.

I agree that for your situation, this is probably a net loss for you.

Note that if you really need the full 14 day duration you can get that if you buy the longest MYW ticket which is a 10-day ticket, which will be good for 14 days from first use. If you were planning on buying the 8 day pass the 10 day pass will probably be $20 more. This is less than paying the $100 for the flexible date option. Plus you can visit the parks on 2 extra days.

BTW, how are you calculating the $50 per head?

I guess another option is to not visit the parks on the first couple and last couple of days of your visit, so you'd have the "inside" 10 days to use up a 7 day MYW pass.

And I assume you're staying offsite since if you're onsite on a package, your tickets would be good for the length of your stay?

 

[biggy H]

They might after they see the price ....

I highly doubt the vast majority would.

 

[xdan0920]

I highly doubt the vast majority would.

Of course they won't. If they enter all their info and the price comes back (more) ridiculously expensive, they will just look to vacation elsewhere. They won't turn their spring break trip into a mid-september one. That's just silly.

 

[MrPromey]

...This strikes me as pure and simple economics. The more people they have in their parks, the higher their operating costs, and the more they need to make to meet whatever bottom line they've set for themselves for that quarter. ...

I realize there is more to your argument than just this but on this alone, one would think the additional ticket sales, food sales, and merchandise sales from all of the extra guests would cover the additional staffing costs in the parks to support them.

 

[flynnibus]

Sounds complicated, more onerous and definitely more costly for me and family. As LoNG distance travellers from Vancouver, Canada we visit orlando area for roughly 2 weeks each visit. 5 visits thus far. Typically we buy a 7-8 day pass to use over the two weeks. Now seems we will have to pay extra $50/ head to do the same. 5 in our family! Geesh thanks Disney. How does a 10 day window now make managing logistics so vastly superior to justify punishing long-stay customers such as us, who used to have 14 days? I'm disappointed.

You vacation for 10 weeks this year already and are fretting over a couple hundred bucks?

Edit: or are you saying you make 5 visits during a 2 week period?

 

[nickys]

I agree that for your situation, this is probably a net loss for you.

Note that if you really need the full 14 day duration you can get that if you buy the longest MYW ticket which is a 10-day ticket, which will be good for 14 days from first use. If you were planning on buying the 8 day pass the 10 day pass will probably be $20 more. This is less than paying the $100 for the flexible date option. Plus you can visit the parks on 2 extra days.

BTW, how are you calculating the $50 per head?

I guess another option is to not visit the parks on the first couple and last couple of days of your visit, so you'd have the "inside" 10 days to use up a 7 day MYW pass.
And I assume you're staying offsite since if you're onsite on a package, your tickets would be good for the length of your stay?

The example in the video was for two 4 day hoppers, I think, and the “flexible premium” was shown as $100. I also assumed this was the total, ie:$50 pp. however we don’t know for sure, and it could also be $x per day per person.

Lots of people stay onsite with room-only and separate tickets too. Much more flexible, at least it was! If you wanted to add days at the start, having a package means having to activate tickets early and not booking FPs in advance for those days etc.

 

[polynesiangirl]

Oh good, another incarnation of the WDW planning website that I am sure will be as rock-solid as the others. (I'm not usually one to go especially negative, but good grief their websites need help. I spent an hour wrestling with the DVC site just this morning so I'm crankier than usual about it, too, hahaha.)

 

[iowamomof4]

You vacation for 10 weeks this year already and are fretting over a couple hundred bucks?

Edit: or are you saying you make 5 visits during a 2 week period?

I'm assuming 5 visits over the course of their lifetime.

 

[Lensman]

The example in the video was for two 4 day hoppers, I think, and the “flexible premium” was shown as $100. I also assumed this was the total, ie:$50 pp. however we don’t know for sure, and it could also be $x per day per person.

Lots of people stay onsite with room-only and separate tickets too. Much more flexible, at least it was! If you wanted to add days at the start, having a package means having to activate tickets early and not booking FPs in advance for those days etc.

Ah! Thanks! I mis-saw that as $100 per person.

So it's only $50 to convert a date-specific ticket to an anytime ticket. And as a consequence, arbitrage theory says that the maximum seasonal price difference between any two tickets is $50, since you could otherwise buy a 5-day MYW ticket for February and pay the $50 Flexible Dates Option. I don't know that such a price differential is going to drive behavior significantly and encourage that many people to travel off-season.

I'm walking back my speculation that off-season tickets would be any cheaper than current any-season tickets.

 

[nickys]

Ah! Thanks! I mis-saw that as $100 per person.

So it's only $50 to convert a date-specific ticket to an anytime ticket. And as a consequence, arbitrage theory says that the maximum seasonal price difference between any two tickets is $50, since you could otherwise buy a 5-day MYW ticket for February and pay the $50 Flexible Dates Option. I don't know that such a price differential is going to drive behavior significantly and encourage that many people to travel off-season.

I'm walking back my speculation that off-season tickets would be any cheaper than current any-season tickets.

Given they haven’t released any details of actual prices yet, I’m not sure that is a final figure either.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Does anyone think they should fix the connected guests functionality before making this site go live? Currently you can't connect on MDE through friends of friends. We're planning a trip with a couple of family friends and aren't easily able to connect their kids to us.

 

[schuelma]

Soo..just booked our trip next September 2-8 (renting points at Bay Lake). I was going to just buy the tickets now, but since I'm assuming that will be a pretty slow time, thoughts on waiting to see what the new structure puts the price for that week at?

 

[Rick_H]

You vacation for 10 weeks this year already and are fretting over a couple hundred bucks?

Edit: or are you saying you make 5 visits during a 2 week period?

We have gone or WDW 5 times over the last 10 years, and because it’s a big trip for us we stay 2 weeks each trip. New rules add 5 x $50 to our future two week visit .

 

[Rick_H]

I agree that for your situation, this is probably a net loss for you.

Note that if you really need the full 14 day duration you can get that if you buy the longest MYW ticket which is a 10-day ticket, which will be good for 14 days from first use. If you were planning on buying the 8 day pass the 10 day pass will probably be $20 more. This is less than paying the $100 for the flexible date option. Plus you can visit the parks on 2 extra days.

BTW, how are you calculating the $50 per head?

I guess another option is to not visit the parks on the first couple and last couple of days of your visit, so you'd have the "inside" 10 days to use up a 7 day MYW pass.

And I assume you're staying offsite since if you're onsite on a package, your tickets would be good for the length of your stay?

Thanks for the tips. Yes, calculating $50 per person. Typically, in past visits we spend the first 4-5 days at the parks and staying on-property. Next we go off-site and do a few days adventuring about Florida, then return to WDW for the final 2-3 days.

 

[flynnibus]

Thanks for the tips. Yes, calculating $50 per person. Typically, in past visits we spend the first 4-5 days at the parks and staying on-property. Next we go off-site and do a few days adventuring about Florida, then return to WDW for the final 2-3 days.

Pretty much the pattern Disney looks to nuke. Sorry to say, but you'll be at risk of being screwed by new use requirements, etc. Making sure you fit within the time windows, etc.

 

[biggy H]

Sounds complicated, more onerous and definitely more costly for me and family. As LoNG distance travellers from Vancouver, Canada we visit orlando area for roughly 2 weeks each visit. 5 visits thus far. Typically we buy a 7-8 day pass to use over the two weeks. Now seems we will have to pay extra $50/ head to do the same. 5 in our family! Geesh thanks Disney. How does a 10 day window now make managing logistics so vastly superior to justify punishing long-stay customer such as us, who used to have 14 days? I'm disappointed.

If you are going to Disney that often then an AP is probably a better ticket option for you

 

[nickys]

If you are going to Disney that often then an AP is probably a better ticket option for you

They’re only going every two years. If they wanted a 10 day ticket every year, it would be worth it. But not currently for the way they Vacation at WDW. They don’t even want a 10 day ticket each time, so it’s even less likely IMO. I think paying the flexible premium will still be cheaper than an AP.

 

[biggy H]

They’re only going every two years. If they wanted a 10 day ticket every year, it would be worth it. But not currently for the way they Vacation at WDW. They don’t even want a 10 day ticket each time, so it’s even less likely IMO. I think paying the flexible premium will still be cheaper than an AP.

Ignore me, I read it wrong... shouldn't really post after working nights... I originally thought they went 5 times a year (I know people who do that though..)

 

[MinnieWaffles]

Oh no, more complications! That we will safely ignore because we only have the QSDP so no booking ADRs and we have UK tickets so the system works differently for now. Great time to be a UK guest with our Ultimates.

 

[lentesta]

I hear Disney will allow 3rd party ticket wholesalers to sell the old Magic Your Way tickets through late October, roughly a couple of weeks after the Oct 16 launch. As of today, I don't know one vendor who's got a working system for new tix.