Disney, Storms Blamed For Universal Earnings, Attendance Decline

Tim G

Tim G

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mkt said:
I remember when Universal Creative rented out Wet-n-Wild for a party. There were more WDI employed friends than U.C. there. So yeah, they are a TINY operation
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Micro Economics... :zipit:
 
wannab@dis

wannab@dis

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Julius & Boobah said:
If you don't like it, and you've been recently FINE, that's your opinion but Don't put other people down for liking it or enjoy it more than Disney... what difference does it make to you? Just be quiet about it, not everyone likes the same thing.
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I'm going to turn your post around just so you can see how it can be construed and cause problems... ok?

If you don't like people saying they hate Universal, FINE, that's your opinion. But don't put other people down for saying they don't like Universal or they enjoy Disney more... what difference does it make to you? Just be quiet about it, not everyone likes the same thing.

See? You're upset with other posters, but yet you did exactly what you wanted them not to do. Plus, don't forget you're on a Disney fansite! :lol:

:wave:
 
Tim G

Tim G

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wannab@dis said:
I'm going to turn your post around just so you can see how it can be construed and cause problems... ok?

If you don't like people saying they hate Universal, FINE, that's your opinion. But don't put other people down for saying they don't like Universal or they enjoy Disney more... what difference does it make to you? Just be quiet about it, not everyone likes the same thing.

See? You're upset with other posters, but yet you did exactly what you wanted them not to do. Plus, don't forget you're on a Disney fansite! :lol:

:wave:
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Let him... We're better... AND we're PML... The great and arrogant people
 
Lynx04

Lynx04

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Universal got my business for a total of 8 days on two visits this year, Disney got zero. Universal must be doing something right to consume all of my two trips to FL this year. Next year when I go down to Orlando for 9 days, 6 days will be at Disney, and 3 will be at a Universal resort. Historicaly I always stayed at Disney for the whole trip.

Also, Universal's drop in attendence is a no brainer since last year was a record breaking year. With adding nothing new this year, how could they improve their numbers from the year before? Don't forget, the figure is the percent different between the 3rd quarter of 05 from the 3rd quarter of 04. When Disney finishes up its 50th celabration their will be a large drop in it attendence figures scene similar to Universal, specialy if they have nothing new opening. Which is why they will find something new to celebrate about - EPCOT anyone.
 
Lynx04

Lynx04

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Corrus said:
Universal doesn't build rides and attractions... The sub contractors do... They invented the "How small can Imagineering be" line...

Well they seem to get by with.... I'll tell you... Exactly 10... yes 10 people...
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And Disney doesn't? EE only had a core group around 20 people, the rest was all sub-contracted. I think I heard at the height of the project EE has over 150 people contracted on the project. The ride system was contracted out to Vekoma, the construction of the attraction was contracted, the only thing that was not contracted was the story, the concept, and the mammoth Yeti AA(for obvious reasons. No one else could have done it better than Disney). Even the gathering of material for the attraction is a joint venture between Disney and the Discovery Channel.

With more companies getting into specializing in working on theme park attractions, Disney and Universals imagineering/creative departments will shrink.
 
Tim G

Tim G

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Disney Creative Invents...

Universal Creative doesn't create... they just bring the idea to a sub contractor...

That's what I meant with external sub contractors
 
Christina

Christina

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I can see the storms perhaps contributing to a drop in attendance- but I don't think it's fair to blame Disney. Universal should of done more to attract more people.

KEEP IN MIND FOLKS that I love Universal. I like IOA better than AK (I have to be in a calm mood though, if I'm feeling really rushed I go to AK), and both Universal studios and IOA surpass MGM by FAR. But I still don't feel it's right for them to place blame on anything other than themselves.
 
WDWScottieBoy

WDWScottieBoy

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mkt said:
sorry Scott... this was the original agreement



the $500 was only to make it sweeter. You know what terms you have to agree to
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Corrus is right. $500 isn't worth it for Universal. I paid almost that for my Premium AP (before discounts), and I don't need to go to Uni.
 
Lynx04

Lynx04

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Corrus said:
Disney Creative Invents...

Universal Creative doesn't create... they just bring the idea to a sub contractor...

That's what I meant with external sub contractors
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Based on the attractions Universal has, it isn't as if they really suffered. There are attractions at Universal that are far superior to Disneys. The average person doesn't look as deep into the parks as much as us die hard fans do. Some times you have to step back and try to look at things objectively, not subjectively.

The only thing that Disney has done more for EE than Universal did for Mummy is build their own AA. Both created the story, designed the concept and theme, everything else was done by contractors.

Disney and Universal do more things a like then you think, we tend to make it not seem that way in an effort to try to make one seem more superior, when obviously Disney has a more superior product then Universal. Having said that, just because Disney is overall better then Universal - mainly because of size -, it doesn't mean Universal sucks, or is a bad park. Unfortunatly, a lot of times some people are too over zealous and absolute when it comes to judgeing objectively, "Disney or nothing". I guess if a resort isn't 47 square miles, 4 parks, 20 some resort hotels, two water parks, corney 24/7, and has a mouse, it has to suck and shouldn't even be open.
 
Snapper Bean

Snapper Bean

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I'm heading to the Universal Resort for the MLK Day Weekend in January. It will be my first time staying on the Universal Resort property (Royal Pacific). I'm very much looking forward to it although it will be weird for the Magic Kingdom to be only a secondary aspect of the trip. I've been to USF twice in the last 2 years but have never been to IOA (...was wating for the kids to get to 42 inches.).

I tend to favor an attraction based park so in my view I find USF to be far superior to Disney MGM Studios. Although theming is tremendously important, theming can't save a park if there isn't enough to do at the park.

I'm happy for Disney because I'm generally a Disney guy, however, I do not appreciate Disney arrogance.
 
disney_nutter

disney_nutter

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Massive disney fan here but what can i say universal took up most of my two week vaction in the summer.Why because it had somthing to offer me, thrilling rides, ok i know they always go on about spiderman, but yeh its a great ride, MIB to me is better than buzz light year, Monster horror makeup show makes me laugh everytime i see it with new jokes, i cant remember the last disney show that i could keep going back to and get a new laugh each time. Team uni all the way
 
Pumbas Nakasak

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Visit the parks stay at the resorts, it offers somthing different from Disney but on par in terms of quality.

Busch gardens on the other hand was a dump that just happens to have some great coasters.


Oh and I preffer Pepsi, but Irn Bru is best
 

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