Disney Springs Mask Enforcement

Walt Disney1955

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Random YouTube videos are not scientific research. Masks are not a new idea for repair diseases but thank you for again reiterating that you don’t understand the purpose.

Ah yes, how could I have forgotten about Big Fabric. I’m guessing you’re now a nudist too so as to not line their pockets?

You either can do your own research or you choose not to and be told how to think. Don't worry, you have a lot of company, but it also doesn't hurt to have critical thought either. Doctors on Youtube speaking out against this thing are not "Random videos" you know?

Sorry Phil but I’m done taking to someone like you. Again we are lucky that the majority of people do not think like you and will do what we need to do to get through the pandemic. You and people like you just get lucky from people who give a crap.

You mean like in Sweden? Or Japan? Or other places in Asia? Their economies didn't get destroyed and their cases didn't go through the roof. We have stopped caring about everyone in our world. We look at each other like we are all lepers. We demanded that small businesses close and wonder why some of them will permanently stay that way forever. We have models for how it should have been done. Other countries did it much better and effective too.

What exactly is your plan for an exit strategy? With all of the second wave and such do you realize that because of the horrible way this has been handled we aren't any closer to getting out of this than we were in March? It isn't too late to admit it was an utter failure.
 

Walt Disney1955

Well-Known Member
I’ll say you’re an absolute moron and a tool and leave it at that.

I am sure you have an exit strategy with this whole thing? We can't just keep hiding for the rest of our natural lives. Life is worth living. So what is your exit strategy? When will you feel safe? When you are told to?
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
You either can do your own research or you choose not to and be told how to think. Don't worry, you have a lot of company, but it also doesn't hurt to have critical thought either. Doctors on Youtube speaking out against this thing are not "Random videos" you know?
If you had done any critical thinking you would be cable of explaining how masks are dangerous. Instead you can only repeat a slogan.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
I am sure you have an exit strategy with this whole thing? We can't just keep hiding for the rest of our natural lives. Life is worth living. So what is your exit strategy? When will you feel safe? When you are told to?

I do.

Wear a mask and minimize my exposure to other people until a vaccine is available.
 

Walt Disney1955

Well-Known Member
I do.

Wear a mask and minimize my exposure to other people until a vaccine is available.

See, now that's just parroting a talking point ("wait until a vaccine is ready"). Not everyone will take it. Not everyone takes the flu shot. And there is the very real possibility that there is NEVER a vaccine.

So my question is, what do you do since not everyone will take it and there may not be one in the first place?
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Inhaled carbon dioxide. It isn't good for you.

Anyway, you didn't start thinking this way until you were told to.
The carbon dioxide is not trapped. You can go get a pulse oximeter to test this yourself and find that your blood oxygen is not reduced in any meaningful way.

When was I told? I do lots of things doctors say I should do, like wash my hands. Do you not wash your hands because your kindergarten teacher told you to do it?
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
See, now that's just parroting a talking point ("wait until a vaccine is ready"). Not everyone will take it. Not everyone takes the flu shot. And there is the very real possibility that there is NEVER a vaccine.

So my question is, what do you do since not everyone will take it and there may not be one in the first place?

Are you being intentionally obtuse? Did you not read my other posts?

As I stated before: I don't trust the media either, I am just stating what I believe based on my conversations with my primary care physician who is an Infectious Disease Specialist.

If there's no vaccine, and it is confirmed that no vaccine will be possible, I will go back to living my life while continuing to minimize risk of illness. Same as I did when I lived in the tropics during local epidemics of Zika, Dengue, and Chikugunya.

And if there is a vaccine, I'll get it, and just as I do now, avoid antivaxxers.
 

Walt Disney1955

Well-Known Member
The carbon dioxide is not trapped. You can go get a pulse oximeter to test this yourself and find that your blood oxygen is not reduced in any meaningful way.

When was I told? I do lots of things doctors say I should do, like wash my hands. Do you not wash your hands because your kindergarten teacher told you to do it?

You didn't get scared about this - like everyone else - until you were told to.

Let me put it this way. Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the U.S. Can you imagine if all we saw everyday on the news and on social media was the amount of people who died from it everyday? We could have a website where they would track the number of people who had heart attacks/strokes and the number who died from it. Put it this way, it would affect your life and how you act. It would be ingrained in you. You might want red meat to be banned. You might go jogging a lot more and get some exercise. You might demand that your neighbor doesn't BBQ and you would want to report him because he might "get the people at his party infected" if they eat those burgers. Either way, it would force you to change your behaviour. You would be afraid of it. You might demand restaurants don't serve meat anymore and more salads.

What I am explaining to you is exactly how you have gotten manipulated over Covid-19. Of course people are going to be scared, there is nothing else going on in the world other than riots and classic attractions getting a makeover than this. This is where your undivided attention is.
 

Walt Disney1955

Well-Known Member
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Did you not read my other posts?

As I stated before: I don't trust the media either, I am just stating what I believe based on my conversations with my primary care physician who is an Infectious Disease Specialist.

If there's no vaccine, and it is confirmed that no vaccine will be possible, I will go back to living my life while continuing to minimize risk of illness. Same as I did when I lived in the tropics during local epidemics of Zika, Dengue, and Chikugunya.

And if there is a vaccine, I'll get it, and just as I do now, avoid antivaxxers.

"Avoiding anti-vaxxers" won't exactly be progressive. Besides, what does it matter, you got the vaccine, you should be safe even if you come within 6 feet of me right?

That being said, it sounds to me like you would STILL be paranoid if you got the vaccine, and that's the problem with this whole social engineering experiment we are in right now. There are people who will NEVER psychologically get over this idea that they aren't safe, and people around them are lepers. Some will never recover mentally.
 

lazyboy97o

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You didn't get scared about this - like everyone else - until you were told to.

Let me put it this way. Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the U.S. Can you imagine if all we saw everyday on the news and on social media was the amount of people who died from it everyday? We could have a website where they would track the number of people who had heart attacks/strokes and the number who died from it. Put it this way, it would affect your life and how you act. It would be ingrained in you. You might want red meat to be banned. You might go jogging a lot more and get some exercise. You might demand that your neighbor doesn't BBQ and you would want to report him because he might "get the people at his party infected" if they eat those burgers. Either way, it would force you to change your behaviour. You would be afraid of it. You might demand restaurants don't serve meat anymore and more salads.

What I am explaining to you is exactly how you have gotten manipulated over Covid-19. Of course people are going to be scared, there is nothing else going on in the world other than riots and classic attractions getting a makeover than this. This is where your undivided attention is.
That’s a nice left turn into completely unrelated ranting. You made unsubstantiated claims that you cannot coherently defend and are now just making more unfounded claims. You have no knowledge of how my behavior has or has not changed.

Oh and guess what, there are websites that show the number of deaths from heart disease. It’s not some secret. You’re also comparing a group of diseases with various causes to a single disease with one cause. I also cannot ever in any way give my neighbor or some random stranger heart disease because I chose to eat too much barbecue and stopped exercising.
 

RollerCoaster

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Will you wake the hell up. This isn't your common virus. How many people, worldwide, have to die before you all pull your heads out of your butts and know the difference between a Pandemic and a regular flu. Talk about parroting back everything one has heard Fox say. However, Fox is pretty much the only one saying that crap. CNN along with many, many other networks are reporting the facts. You've just chosen the wrong gods to follow. It is my sincere hope that your bias doesn't end up killing you or someone you care about.

FOX is the only one telling the truth.

I got news for you. Mask or no mask you're very likely going to get the virus and the end result is going to be the same for those who get it whether it happens today, two weeks from now or months from now. Wearing a mask slows the spread, it doesn't stop it.
 

G00fyDad

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FOX is the only one telling the truth.


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Goofyernmost

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FOX is the only one telling the truth.

I got news for you. Mask or no mask you're very likely going to get the virus and the end result is going to be the same for those who get it whether it happens today, two weeks from now or months from now. Wearing a mask slows the spread, it doesn't stop it.
So you're saying that every single person in this country is going to get infected by this virus and that you think that trying to prevent those particles from getting inside my system is guaranteed to be a waste of time? Nothing we can do to prevent it at all? Whatever we are doing by covering two of the largest germ spraying and receiving orifices we have all we are doing is just delaying when we get this thing? That it's inevitable that no matter what we do, we are all going to contract the virus. How come the majority of Doctors think that is a load of crap. It is almost as foolish as saying that FOX is alone in telling the truth. Everyone else is wrong and only FOX is correct? What are the odds of that.
 
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Chi84

Premium Member
I don't want to predict how many people will get this virus - and I'm skeptical of those who think they know. But the CDC came out yesterday with a statement that 2.4 million people have or had Covid and that the real number of infected is 10 times greater. That comes to 6% if you include the "10 times" figure. That means that 94% don't have it.
 

Goofyernmost

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I don't want to predict how many people will get this virus - and I'm skeptical of those who think they know. But the CDC came out yesterday with a statement that 2.4 million people have or had Covid and that the real number of infected is 10 times greater. That comes to 6% if you include the "10 times" figure. That means that 94% don't have it.
And I am doing whatever logically helps me not be one of the 6% that has it. I see no future in risking my life to prove someone is right or wrong. The only percentage group I would like to be part of is the wealthy 1% everyone talks about.
 

RollerCoaster

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So you're saying that every single person in this country is going to get infected by this virus and that you think that trying to prevent those particles from getting inside my system is guaranteed to be a waste of time? Nothing we can do to prevent it at all? Whatever we are doing by covering two of the largest germ spraying and receiving orifices we have all we are doing is just delaying when we get this thing? That it's inevitable that no matter what we do, we are all going to contract the virus. How come the majority of Doctors think that is a load of crap. It is almost as foolish as saying that FOX is alone in telling the truth. Everyone else is wrong and only FOX is correct? What are the odds of that.

I said "you're very likely" I carefully didn't say, everyone. I didn't speak to anything other than FOX. Take it for what it means.

No one has ever said we're stopping the infections. All they've promised is we are slowing it. Please do share any evidence that says the majority of the Doctors think that is a load of crap. I'd really like to see that quoted.
 

RollerCoaster

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I don't want to predict how many people will get this virus - and I'm skeptical of those who think they know. But the CDC came out yesterday with a statement that 2.4 million people have or had Covid and that the real number of infected is 10 times greater. That comes to 6% if you include the "10 times" figure. That means that 94% don't have it.

That means we've got a long road ahead of us and I'd much rather drive at 100 mph versus 25 mph.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I said "you're very likely" I carefully didn't say, everyone. I didn't speak to anything other than FOX. Take it for what it means.

No one has ever said we're stopping the infections. All they've promised is we are slowing it. Please do share any evidence that says the majority of the Doctors think that is a load of crap. I'd really like to see that quoted.
In the context of the discussion of Covid 19... slowing it down is exactly the same as stopping it. The virus will die off if it isn't spread fresh on a daily basis so by "slowing it down" we are really talking about not giving it a chance to infect more people before the virus ends. It is the same thing in that it would indeed stop it for many more people then it would have without those precautions. We were indeed slowing it down until it got slow enough that the non-thinkers decided that meant it was gone and we then opened things up. At the same time those same geniuses decided that since that happened it is now gone. Then guess what, it started to spike again.

I know that we have to open up again and if everyone was willing to take the necessary logical precautions it could stop even with things being open, but not until everyone figures out that just saying it is gone does not make it gone. If we are not smart enough as a society to do what is necessary to end it then we deserve what we are getting. Wearing a mask will not stop it completely but it will allow a whole lot more people to live to see another year. We cannot will things away as much as we would like too.
 

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