Disney Springs Mask Enforcement

NelleBelle

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Big Phil

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I'm not talking about Fauci - although he's one of the smarter people dealing with this. I've been speaking with my actual primacy care physician, whose specialty is infectious diseases, about this.

Now for four months ago - this was February, and I told people four months ago to back up when they got too close. Also, four months ago was when my wife and I began to work remotely from home and started having our groceries and most items delivered to our house because of us trying to avoid other people.

Now, if you want to accuse me of being a pawn of the media, knock yourself out. But if you want to ***** and moan about the media and politics, there's a dedicated board for that.
I'll say you are easy to manipulate and leave it at that. But unfortunately you aren't alone.

I wear a mask when I have cold or flu like symptoms and have done so for years because it is not a new idea. I also self isolate when I have the flu as has also long been recommended to again, avoid spreading it. I am not unaware that I have likely spread diseases to others but I am not under the delusion that I am somehow boldly courageous by being cavalier and not taking easy steps to mitigate spread.
You are more or less the only person I have ever seen then that wore a mask when they were sick. It wasn't a thing in North America at all until people were told to do it.

Well he really hasn't been wrong that much but hey it's easier to just make things up like you are doing.
2.2 million Americans will die from Covid-19. That was his prediction. Not to mention before the pandemic hit in the U.S. he said as recently as February 29th that Americans have nothing to worry about. If you or I screwed up that badly at work we'd be fired.
 

lazyboy97o

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You are more or less the only person I have ever seen then that wore a mask when they were sick. It wasn't a thing in North America at all until people were told to do it.
Prior irresponsible action does not justify future irresponsible action. I’m guessing you can’t provide evidence that masks are dangerous like you claim?
 

Big Phil

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The first guy was 60 and in the 2nd link the other was 57 or so I believe. There had to be something else happening to them for this to happen. There had to have been other issues that set this off. Even so, 150,000 people die a day worldwide. We can't shut the world down when bad things happen like this. We are setting ourselves up for much more failure than what we can bargain for because the deaths from the shutdown is far worse. It is too bad when anyone's parents die but do we shut the world down so that we can create even bigger problems?
 

Big Phil

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Prior irresponsible action does not justify future irresponsible action. I’m guessing you can’t provide evidence that masks are dangerous like you claim?
There are plenty of people that work in the medical field - and I'll leave you to look that up on Youtube yourself - that say they are not meant for healthy people to wear nor are they meant to be worn for a long time.

Follow the money with this thing. Always follow the money. Who is manufacturing the masks and who is making money off of this? It might give you insight as to why it gets pushed as much as it does.
 

lazyboy97o

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There are plenty of people that work in the medical field - and I'll leave you to look that up on Youtube yourself - that say they are not meant for healthy people to wear nor are they meant to be worn for a long time.

Follow the money with this thing. Always follow the money. Who is manufacturing the masks and who is making money off of this? It might give you insight as to why it gets pushed as much as it does.
Random YouTube videos are not scientific research. Masks are not a new idea for repair diseases but thank you for again reiterating that you don’t understand the purpose.

Ah yes, how could I have forgotten about Big Fabric. I’m guessing you’re now a nudist too so as to not line their pockets?
 

Prince-1

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I'll say you are easy to manipulate and leave it at that. But unfortunately you aren't alone.



You are more or less the only person I have ever seen then that wore a mask when they were sick. It wasn't a thing in North America at all until people were told to do it.



2.2 million Americans will die from Covid-19. That was his prediction. Not to mention before the pandemic hit in the U.S. he said as recently as February 29th that Americans have nothing to worry about. If you or I screwed up that badly at work we'd be fired.
Sorry Phil but I’m done taking to someone like you. Again we are lucky that the majority of people do not think like you and will do what we need to do to get through the pandemic. You and people like you just get lucky from people who give a crap.
 

Big Phil

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Random YouTube videos are not scientific research. Masks are not a new idea for repair diseases but thank you for again reiterating that you don’t understand the purpose.

Ah yes, how could I have forgotten about Big Fabric. I’m guessing you’re now a nudist too so as to not line their pockets?
You either can do your own research or you choose not to and be told how to think. Don't worry, you have a lot of company, but it also doesn't hurt to have critical thought either. Doctors on Youtube speaking out against this thing are not "Random videos" you know?

Sorry Phil but I’m done taking to someone like you. Again we are lucky that the majority of people do not think like you and will do what we need to do to get through the pandemic. You and people like you just get lucky from people who give a crap.
You mean like in Sweden? Or Japan? Or other places in Asia? Their economies didn't get destroyed and their cases didn't go through the roof. We have stopped caring about everyone in our world. We look at each other like we are all lepers. We demanded that small businesses close and wonder why some of them will permanently stay that way forever. We have models for how it should have been done. Other countries did it much better and effective too.

What exactly is your plan for an exit strategy? With all of the second wave and such do you realize that because of the horrible way this has been handled we aren't any closer to getting out of this than we were in March? It isn't too late to admit it was an utter failure.
 

Big Phil

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I’ll say you’re an absolute moron and a tool and leave it at that.
I am sure you have an exit strategy with this whole thing? We can't just keep hiding for the rest of our natural lives. Life is worth living. So what is your exit strategy? When will you feel safe? When you are told to?
 

lazyboy97o

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You either can do your own research or you choose not to and be told how to think. Don't worry, you have a lot of company, but it also doesn't hurt to have critical thought either. Doctors on Youtube speaking out against this thing are not "Random videos" you know?
If you had done any critical thinking you would be cable of explaining how masks are dangerous. Instead you can only repeat a slogan.
 

mkt

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I am sure you have an exit strategy with this whole thing? We can't just keep hiding for the rest of our natural lives. Life is worth living. So what is your exit strategy? When will you feel safe? When you are told to?
I do.

Wear a mask and minimize my exposure to other people until a vaccine is available.
 

Big Phil

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If you had done any critical thinking you would be cable of explaining how masks are dangerous. Instead you can only repeat a slogan.
Inhaled carbon dioxide. It isn't good for you.

Anyway, you didn't start thinking this way until you were told to.
 

Big Phil

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I do.

Wear a mask and minimize my exposure to other people until a vaccine is available.
See, now that's just parroting a talking point ("wait until a vaccine is ready"). Not everyone will take it. Not everyone takes the flu shot. And there is the very real possibility that there is NEVER a vaccine.

So my question is, what do you do since not everyone will take it and there may not be one in the first place?
 

lazyboy97o

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Inhaled carbon dioxide. It isn't good for you.

Anyway, you didn't start thinking this way until you were told to.
The carbon dioxide is not trapped. You can go get a pulse oximeter to test this yourself and find that your blood oxygen is not reduced in any meaningful way.

When was I told? I do lots of things doctors say I should do, like wash my hands. Do you not wash your hands because your kindergarten teacher told you to do it?
 

mkt

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See, now that's just parroting a talking point ("wait until a vaccine is ready"). Not everyone will take it. Not everyone takes the flu shot. And there is the very real possibility that there is NEVER a vaccine.

So my question is, what do you do since not everyone will take it and there may not be one in the first place?
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Did you not read my other posts?

As I stated before: I don't trust the media either, I am just stating what I believe based on my conversations with my primary care physician who is an Infectious Disease Specialist.

If there's no vaccine, and it is confirmed that no vaccine will be possible, I will go back to living my life while continuing to minimize risk of illness. Same as I did when I lived in the tropics during local epidemics of Zika, Dengue, and Chikugunya.

And if there is a vaccine, I'll get it, and just as I do now, avoid antivaxxers.
 

Big Phil

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The carbon dioxide is not trapped. You can go get a pulse oximeter to test this yourself and find that your blood oxygen is not reduced in any meaningful way.

When was I told? I do lots of things doctors say I should do, like wash my hands. Do you not wash your hands because your kindergarten teacher told you to do it?
You didn't get scared about this - like everyone else - until you were told to.

Let me put it this way. Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the U.S. Can you imagine if all we saw everyday on the news and on social media was the amount of people who died from it everyday? We could have a website where they would track the number of people who had heart attacks/strokes and the number who died from it. Put it this way, it would affect your life and how you act. It would be ingrained in you. You might want red meat to be banned. You might go jogging a lot more and get some exercise. You might demand that your neighbor doesn't BBQ and you would want to report him because he might "get the people at his party infected" if they eat those burgers. Either way, it would force you to change your behaviour. You would be afraid of it. You might demand restaurants don't serve meat anymore and more salads.

What I am explaining to you is exactly how you have gotten manipulated over Covid-19. Of course people are going to be scared, there is nothing else going on in the world other than riots and classic attractions getting a makeover than this. This is where your undivided attention is.
 

Big Phil

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Are you being intentionally obtuse? Did you not read my other posts?

As I stated before: I don't trust the media either, I am just stating what I believe based on my conversations with my primary care physician who is an Infectious Disease Specialist.

If there's no vaccine, and it is confirmed that no vaccine will be possible, I will go back to living my life while continuing to minimize risk of illness. Same as I did when I lived in the tropics during local epidemics of Zika, Dengue, and Chikugunya.

And if there is a vaccine, I'll get it, and just as I do now, avoid antivaxxers.
"Avoiding anti-vaxxers" won't exactly be progressive. Besides, what does it matter, you got the vaccine, you should be safe even if you come within 6 feet of me right?

That being said, it sounds to me like you would STILL be paranoid if you got the vaccine, and that's the problem with this whole social engineering experiment we are in right now. There are people who will NEVER psychologically get over this idea that they aren't safe, and people around them are lepers. Some will never recover mentally.
 

lazyboy97o

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You didn't get scared about this - like everyone else - until you were told to.

Let me put it this way. Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the U.S. Can you imagine if all we saw everyday on the news and on social media was the amount of people who died from it everyday? We could have a website where they would track the number of people who had heart attacks/strokes and the number who died from it. Put it this way, it would affect your life and how you act. It would be ingrained in you. You might want red meat to be banned. You might go jogging a lot more and get some exercise. You might demand that your neighbor doesn't BBQ and you would want to report him because he might "get the people at his party infected" if they eat those burgers. Either way, it would force you to change your behaviour. You would be afraid of it. You might demand restaurants don't serve meat anymore and more salads.

What I am explaining to you is exactly how you have gotten manipulated over Covid-19. Of course people are going to be scared, there is nothing else going on in the world other than riots and classic attractions getting a makeover than this. This is where your undivided attention is.
That’s a nice left turn into completely unrelated ranting. You made unsubstantiated claims that you cannot coherently defend and are now just making more unfounded claims. You have no knowledge of how my behavior has or has not changed.

Oh and guess what, there are websites that show the number of deaths from heart disease. It’s not some secret. You’re also comparing a group of diseases with various causes to a single disease with one cause. I also cannot ever in any way give my neighbor or some random stranger heart disease because I chose to eat too much barbecue and stopped exercising.
 
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