'Disney Springs' - Downtown Disney expansion officially announced

Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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ISTCNavigator57 said:
I understand, but as far as WDW is concerned, Disney wants to build things that will cause folks to get on a plane and fly to the swamps. Which I don't think clubs really are (IMHO).
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And you believe a shopping mall is? As an adult male, I only go to the mall when I absolutely have to. No way in hell am I hopping on a plane and flying anywhere to shop. Put me in the group that thinks drinking and dancing are more fun than shopping.
 
71jason

71jason

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Disneyhead'71 said:
And you believe a shopping mall is? As an adult male, I only go to the mall when I absolutely have to. No way in hell am I hopping on a plane and flying anywhere to shop. Put me in the group that thinks drinking and dancing are more fun than shopping.
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The problem is, add up the number of people who go to CityWalk, Howl at the Moon, Backstage, Senor Frogs and Dave & Busters in a week--still less than the number who go to either Premium Outlet or Millenia in a day. Premium has been expanding ever since it opened, shows no signs of stopping--I've heard its annual attendance puts it in line with the parks.

For the record, I don't think building a nightlife complex and a mall need to be mutually exclusive. (Not saying they have to be in the same area, just saying both could be built at the same time somewhere.) And I remain unconvinced WDW can sign enough tenants of the caliber they'll need to go head to head with Premium and Millenia. But for a hotel company whose sole focus has been convincing people to stay in its hotels for two decades now, those offsite malls are as big a theat as Harry Potter.
 
71jason

71jason

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An update to the whole food truck discussion a few weeks ago. It looks like the food trucks that were already at DTD were owned by Levy's--perhaps as a test run?--tho the company went out of its way to hide that fact. Which goes back to my whole question of will food trucks still be "hip" if they're owned by a giant corporation that could easily just build a real restaurant?

http://www.thedailycity.com/2013/03/downtown-disney-food-truck-truckeria.html
 
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djlaosc

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71jason said:
An update to the whole food truck discussion a few weeks ago. It looks like the food trucks that were already at DTD were owned by Levy's--perhaps as a test run?--tho the company went out of its way to hide that fact. Which goes back to my whole question of will food trucks still be "hip" if they're owned by a giant corporation that could easily just build a real restaurant?

http://www.thedailycity.com/2013/03/downtown-disney-food-truck-truckeria.html
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I guess it depends on the way you are looking at "hip"...

Can a giant corporation create a food truck that is "hip"?
Can people think that a food truck is "hip" if it is ran by a giant corporation?

To the first one, I guess it's possible - if they figure out what makes a non-giant corporation food truck "hip", and then apply that to their own trucks, possibly.
To the second one, it depends on whether people can be bothered to research and find out who owns the truck, or whether they're just going to go there to eat and not care who owns it.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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71jason said:
An update to the whole food truck discussion a few weeks ago. It looks like the food trucks that were already at DTD were owned by Levy's--perhaps as a test run?--tho the company went out of its way to hide that fact. Which goes back to my whole question of will food trucks still be "hip" if they're owned by a giant corporation that could easily just build a real restaurant?

http://www.thedailycity.com/2013/03/downtown-disney-food-truck-truckeria.html
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See any product made by Apple. For large numbers of people Apple makes what they consider hip products and you can't get much bigger of a corporation.

For me I don't care who owns the trucks as long as the food is good:). If they are corporate owned it probably would limit the ability to have individual chefs come in and run their own unique trucks which would be cool.
 
71jason

71jason

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GoofGoof said:
See any product made by Apple. For large numbers of people Apple makes what they consider hip products and you can't get much bigger of a corporation.
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But Apple is still coasting on their reputation from when they were the scrappy #2, behind "Big Blue," making Big Brother commercials. Sort of like TWDC is an equally large corporation but a lot of people choose to believe it's still just an animation studio run by a folksy guy with a mustache. I'm talking about public perception, not reality.

GoofGoof said:
For me I don't care who owns the trucks as long as the food is good:). If they are corporate owned it probably would limit the ability to have individual chefs come in and run their own unique trucks which would be cool.
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Take it to a hypothetical extreme--would a McDonalds food truck work? Probably not. It would seem silly. Part of the thrill of the current food truck movement for a lot of, probably most, patrons is getting a unique dish from an actual chef at a bargain price. Sort of the foodie equivalent of poppin' tags at a thrift shop. A rolling Mickey D's lacks the same ... panache. I suspect the powers that be at WDW understand this, else they wouldn't have tried so hard to hide their food truck's corporate roots.
 
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Mouse Detective

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71jason said:
I suspect the powers that be at WDW understand this, else they wouldn't have tried so hard to hide their food truck's corporate roots.
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People have speculated on here how upset restaurant owners in DTD would be to suddenly have to compete with food trucks. Little did we know that the trucks were operated by one of the two companies that operate all the restaurants there!
 
jt04

jt04

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Mouse Detective said:
People have speculated on here how upset restaurant owners in DTD would be to suddenly have to compete with food trucks. Little did we know that the trucks were operated by one of the two companies that operate all the restaurants there!
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I think they probably know that they just do not have enough food service capacity for the crowds they ultimately anticipate. Food trucks are an easy quick fix and a nice concept. IMO.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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71jason said:
The problem is, add up the number of people who go to CityWalk, Howl at the Moon, Backstage, Senor Frogs and Dave & Busters in a week--still less than the number who go to either Premium Outlet or Millenia in a day. Premium has been expanding ever since it opened, shows no signs of stopping--I've heard its annual attendance puts it in line with the parks.

For the record, I don't think building a nightlife complex and a mall need to be mutually exclusive. (Not saying they have to be in the same area, just saying both could be built at the same time somewhere.) And I remain unconvinced WDW can sign enough tenants of the caliber they'll need to go head to head with Premium and Millenia. But for a hotel company whose sole focus has been convincing people to stay in its hotels for two decades now, those offsite malls are as big a theat as Harry Potter.
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I love Howl at the moon!


But you're right, Its a disaster any time I try to park at Millenia or try and go shopping anywhere....
 
articos

articos

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TimeTrip said:
Make sure you choose the entrance opposite IKEA. Usually plenty of close parking there. Actually, parking there allows you to take the entrance road near Ikea and avoid traffic on Conroy also. Double win!
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"traffic on Conroy"...Conroy to Vineland used to be my secret back roads to the property. How times change...
 

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