'Disney Springs' - Downtown Disney expansion officially announced

Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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jt04 said:
Heh.

It will all tie together eventually.
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So, in conclusion, as soon as they finish the Bullet Train from NYC to Disney Springs, the project will be completed. Oh sure, there will still be a few diehards that continue to ride in their self driving vehicles down I-95 during which they will discover that the road is a lot less boring if you have something to do, like drive, for example. On the plus side there will be many available parking spaces in those state of the art parking structures, complete with man eating escalators. All opening up to a brand new non-mall that resembles old Florida, only it doesn't!:)
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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G00fyDad said:
But is Disney doing the construction or is it a private company? (I have no idea about this sort of thing) But I have heard that construction companies get a bonus for finishing early sometimes. Maybe that could happen here?
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I would assume that Disney will be using an outside general contractor for this, that's how they do thier major projects. The tricky part with this project is that some of it is very linier, for example they can't really build both parking garages at the same time and some of the new construction will be on land that is currently parking so that can't start until at least one if not both of the garages are complete.
 
jt04

jt04

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Goofyernmost said:
So, in conclusion, as soon as they finish the Bullet Train from NYC to Disney Springs, the project will be completed. Oh sure, there will still be a few diehards that continue to ride in their self driving vehicles down I-95 during which they will discover that the road is a lot less boring if you have something to do, like drive, for example. On the plus side there will be many available parking spaces in those state of the art parking structures, complete with man eating escalators. All opening up to a brand new non-mall that resembles old Florida, only it doesn't!:)
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So this is what people call a "rant". Now I get it.

In my scheme of things any trip over 400 miles will be by big ol' jet airliner. If you prefer 24 hours of travel I am sure busses will still be around. o_O
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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jt04 said:
So this is what people call a "rant". Now I get it.

In my scheme of things any trip over 400 miles will be by big ol' jet airliner. If you prefer 24 hours of travel I am sure busses will still be around. o_O
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No, this is what people that have a sense of humor call a compilation of thoughts that have been covered in this thread stacked in a humorous manner. Some might even call it sarcasm, but that's not allowed, so it can't be that. You're taking yourself way to seriously, really!o_O
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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jt04 said:
So this is what people call a "rant". Now I get it.

In my scheme of things any trip over 400 miles will be by big ol' jet airliner. If you prefer 24 hours of travel I am sure busses will still be around. o_O
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Jet for over 400 miles? That doesn't make much sense from a cost stand point in a lot of scenarios unless driving becomes more expensive while flying becomes cheaper.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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jt04 said:
So this is what people call a "rant". Now I get it.

In my scheme of things any trip over 400 miles will be by big ol' jet airliner. If you prefer 24 hours of travel I am sure busses will still be around. o_O
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Some people actually enjoy less "efficient" methods of travel. Last year I took a trip to Disneyland from Philly on the train. It was very time consuming, very in-efficient, costly, but ended up being one of the best travel experiences I have ever had.
 
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Bolna

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lazyboy97o said:
Terrorists have attacked subway systems in England, Japan and Spain. All of these countries have high speed rail systems. I know anything can happen, but I do think it interesting that in these rail cities it was the subways that were repeatedly attacked. Terrorism is about invoking fear and if we fear then they have been successful. Any number of places could make for a spectacle. We didn't stop building office buildings or airplanes, and they remain prime targets.

In terms of a line being destroyed, yes, the high speed train service would be suspended. But high speed rail is part of a layered system. It will still be possible for people to take the roads, conventional rail (maybe) or a plane.
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I absolutely agree - any place that is highly visible and provides a large number of potential victims is a great target. The list is incredibly long - one could start with WDW and end at nuclear power plants.

On the issue of a line being destroyed: within a well maintained and functioning rail network that would not be much of an issue. There are always days when certain parts of a line will be closed for building work. Trains are either diverted or there will be a bus replacement system. Both are annoying, but they are feasible. Also, modern high speed rails are massive "buildings" - the track bed is made out of reinforced concrete. So not so easy to destroy. Just as an example: after the Eschede train disaster here in Germany where a high speed train derailed at 120 mph and slammed into a road bridge - the track was damaged, but trains were able to go on that line again after 6 days.
 
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Bolna

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WDW1974 said:
Well, we all know Walt loved his trains, don't we? Oh, and I'd gladly have lunch with anyone's wife (ask @Lee about this). One of the many things I love about traveling in Europe and Asia is the ability to speed past the world, while eating or drinking or reading (or even working). Last spring I did high speed rail (mostly) from Paris to Berlin and it was blissful (just wish I had more sleep before my trip).
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Paris - Berlin is quite a long trip even with high speed rail though...

But the great advantage of rail travel is indeed that you can do something else than just concentrate on the road. I know many people who prefer the train over a short flight as it has the advantage of taking you from city center to city center, no need to travel to some airport far out from the city, no need to go through security check points etc. They prefer to have 4 hours of undisturbed time to actually get some work done in a spacious seat and possibly a real table in front of them to saving perhaps 45 minutes but having their time chopped into small pieces, most of that sitting around with less comfort and in a environment that is far less quiet than a first class area of a high speed train.
 
emcclay

emcclay

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When I move down to Florida next week.. I'll be taking the Auto Train. It seemed much more appealing to me than driving down 95 again, wasting my gas and being blinded by everyone's headlights during the night (Seriously, has anyone noticed how much brighter the newer cars are?). Now, I can relax with my best friend and wake up in Florida with two meals, plus a wine and cheese reception, included in the price.
 
jt04

jt04

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Goofyernmost said:
No, this is what people that have a sense of humor call a compilation of thoughts that have been covered in this thread stacked in a humorous manner. Some might even call it sarcasm, but that's not allowed, so it can't be that. You're taking yourself way to seriously, really!o_O
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Sorry, I was being sarcastic.
 
jt04

jt04

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danlb_2000 said:
Some people actually enjoy less "efficient" methods of travel. Last year I took a trip to Disneyland from Philly on the train. It was very time consuming, very in-efficient, costly, but ended up being one of the best travel experiences I have ever had.
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Another reason we do not need HSR beyond special regional applications.
 

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