Disney Skyliner shutdown and evacuation - October 6 2019

[Ojo4]

If ya'll are just going to keep arguing then I'm just going to delete this thread, its giving me a headache

I can delete my own thread right?

 

[JenniferS]

OK, I guess the enormous corporations who have told me that were wrong. Man, you should be CEO somewhere, you're SO smart. It's folks like you who keep HIPAA lawyers so rich.

And I gave Reedy Creek as an example because I KNOW they have EMS, idiot. And they are part of Disney.... I'll let you connect those dots. Oh, and Disney has EMS in their parks too. Again, I'll let you connect the dots.

How about we follow the site’s terms of use and NOT call other members “idiots”? Thank you.

 

[JenniferS]

If ya'll are just going to keep arguing about dumb **** then I'm just going to delete this thread, its giving me a headache

I can delete my own thread right?

@The Mom will do some housekeeping in the morning, I’m sure. I don’t think anyone wants the entire thread deleted.

 

[zooropa1]

If anything Disney was not properly prepared to deal with this incident. Someone decided to evac a gondola instead of attempting to move the line first. Once the process started they were stuck and I'll bet that never happens again. The movement of the gondolas on the ropeway probably has multiple backup systems that make evacuation at the stations the usual method. Take a look at the gondola system in London. There is no way a ground evacuation is happening along the ropeway on that system.

 

[MisterPenguin]

It's the same for pigs too. As you can see 33°C equals 91.4°F:
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You're using a chart without taking into account amount of time spent in that condition. Which, again, proves you don't understand this at all.

Here's the chart used by the state of Florida. Both charts are about the same. The thing to be concerned about is that when the temperature reaches about 90°F (even with low relative humidity of 40%) extreme caution must be exercised to prevent heat exhaustion. And as we've discussed before some people (young, old and people that are not in good physical condition) are much more susceptible to heat exhaustion. And people suffering from heat exhaustion need immediate treatment to prevent heat stroke. A common symptom of heat exhaustion is nausea and vomiting which makes re-hydration by drinking fluids a no go. These people require intravenous fluids. Spending several hours in a gondola during the heat of an average subtropical day in WDW could very well be hazardous to anyone's health.
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You have a chart that says "Prolonged Exposure."

You then talk about "spending several hours" in a gondola.

Is several hours prolonged exposure?

You don't know. You just don't know.

Stop talking about something as facts when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The charts you post aren't proving your point. It's highlighting your ignorance of the subject.

If I show you a chart that says a turkey should be cooked at 350 degrees... that means nothing unless you know how big it is and how long you cook it.

 

[King Panda 77]

A football field will always be 100 yards, with a first down every 10 yards. Until the NFL folds up shop we’ll never be fully on the metric system.

...and yes, that game where you can’t use your hands is soccer, not football

Football and hand egg are the correct terms

 

[MisterPenguin]

Disney Statement

“We have a team diligently looking into the cause of last night’s malfunction on the Epcot line of the Disney Skyliner. We have been in contact with the guests, many of whom were on the Skyliner for more than three hours until we were able to restart the system. We express our sincere apologies for the inconvenience and continue to work with each guest individually”. ​

So...

1. More than three hours.​

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2. Disney does apologize! Which is odd, because we were told Disney and big corporations never apologize out of fear of admitting guilt.​

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New Disney Statement Acknowledges Disney Skyliner “Malfunction”; Three Guests Sent to Hospital

As more details come out about the Disney Skyliner incident on Saturday night, Disney statements continue to adjust. We’re also learning more about the Reedy Creek Fire Department response an…

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[Castle Cake Apologist]

That isn't completely correct. Plenty of companies are covered that aren't in those fields. Your employer is covered in certain scenarios, most likely, because they have sensitive information regarding you and others.

If you are injured at work, HIPAA most certainly comes in to play. Your boss can't go tell all your coworkers that you cut your finger off yesterday, and that's why you aren't at work.

There are also state privacy laws that come in to play.

And similarly, Disney can not say "Fred Sandford had a panic attack on a gondola, and had to be removed by paramedics and taken to the hospital." That would be desimminating private health information about Fred that Disney has knowledge of because of the injury happening on property. One could argue Disney should not know that, but if Reedy Creek has an ambulance or first responders.....

You really don't know much about HIPAA, do you?

State privacy laws and HIPAA are two very different things. Disney does not fall under HIPAA's umbrella. Also, Reedy Creek is not Disney.

 

[Patcheslee]

Just as long as we keep miles, feet, pounds, and Fahrenheit. The rest you can change

Noooo, live and work in the U.S. one department I cover for machining measures in MM, other department is .00__ inches. I hate math and have to convert every day.

 

[Lilofan]

Disney Statement

“We have a team diligently looking into the cause of last night’s malfunction on the Epcot line of the Disney Skyliner. We have been in contact with the guests, many of whom were on the Skyliner for more than three hours until we were able to restart the system. We express our sincere apologies for the inconvenience and continue to work with each guest individually​

2. Disney does apologize! Which is odd, because we were told Disney and big corporations never apologize out of fear of admitting guilt.​

One thing that's common sense 101, in an accident, NEVER admit fault, but apologizing, that's ok.

 

[Markiewong]

Just dropping a thought here. Ocean Park in Hong Kong has been operating a gondola system for a really long time, even though there summers are more brutal than Florida's. Not to start about the evacuation and no AC problem.

 

[HongKongFu]

Oof, I think there's enough arguing in this thread already without bringing in the better unit system

Hahaha
Beautiful, simply beautiful

 

[ImperfectPixie]

The Marketing executive in my says it needs to be signficatnly smaller as to not scare off guests.

And there's the rub, lol. But I really do get it - it's a give and take between making it large enough to ensure it gets seen, but not so large as to make it seem like the conditions are worse than they are. I really wonder how they're going to handle this going forward...repeated 911 calls from the Skyliner could get very expensive.

 

[Lilofan]

Just dropping a thought here. Ocean Park in Hong Kong has been operating a gondola system for a really long time, even though there summers are more brutal than Florida's. Not to start about the evacuation and no AC problem.

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Wow, those guests are squeezed so tight in there, that looks like a safety hazard. I know H K residents live in very cramped spaces but this is crazy. We are so spoiled in the USA.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Noooo, live and work in the U.S. one department I cover for machining measures in MM, other department is .00__ inches. I hate math and have to convert every day.

I feel you. I have to do conversions all the time too. It's a major pain.

 

[HongKongFu]

Ocean Park in Hong Kong has been operating a gondola system for a really long time

Hong Kong????
What's a Hong Kong?.... never heard of it.

 

[HongKongFu]

By the way Ocean Park has the best views of any theme park in the world.


And actually it wasn't my intention to CRASH this thread and DERAIL it; sorry about that

 

[Markiewong]

Wow, those guests are squeezed so tight in there, that looks like a safety hazard. I know H K residents live in very cramped spaces but this is crazy.

But the views are amazing .

My point being, the one in Disney world is really simple. It doesn't go high and there is always a road or water underneath. Cable car systems were originally created to cross terrains unsuitable for other means of transport. AC and evac really shouldn't be a problem. Even if it was in a themepark setting like Ocean Park has proven.

But as an European this thread has been a blast to read in general.

 

[danlb_2000]

That isn't completely correct. Plenty of companies are covered that aren't in those fields. Your employer is covered in certain scenarios, most likely, because they have sensitive information regarding you and others.

If you are injured at work, HIPAA most certainly comes in to play. Your boss can't go tell all your coworkers that you cut your finger off yesterday, and that's why you aren't at work.

There are also state privacy laws that come in to play.

And similarly, Disney can not say "Fred Sandford had a panic attack on a gondola, and had to be removed by paramedics and taken to the hospital." That would be desimminating private health information about Fred that Disney has knowledge of because of the injury happening on property. One could argue Disney should not know that, but if Reedy Creek has an ambulance or first responders.....

.. but Disney can say "a guest had a panic attack on a gondola and had to be removed by paramedics and taken to the hospital" which addresses the statement that started the whole HIPAA discussion...

" Disney can't comment publicly on any injury a guest may have sustained"

 

[drizgirl]

We're more metric than you think. You have to use metric wrenches to work on any late model cars, trucks, heavy equipment etc. We buy pop/soda drinks in 2 liter and 1 liter bottles. Hospitals are metric. Even the drug trade is metric. Military is metric. Its coming give it another 50 years.

Keep hoping. I learned the metric system in grade school since it was coming soon. Let's just say I'm not a recent grad.