Disney Security Tough on Photographers

[ddbowdoin]

I agree with not complaining about the tripod ban (seriously, setting up camp in the middle of a busy area and then giving everyone dirty looks because they are "in your way" is just vacation brain gone from bad to worse), but I doubt that they'll be banning higher quality lenses/ camera's any time soon. Maybe what you heard about was a time when someone saw security "taking a closer look" at someone's camera bag and it was misinterpreted as them not being allowed in the park.
I know my husband's bag has been searched at events and such before, but the only thing we were ever told (it was at an NHL game) is that a few of the really high end lenses are banned due to issues with licenses/contracts with sponsors. When you consider how many photo contests Disney has, I doubt they would ban cameras that produce a decent or higher quality photograph.

people who set up camp will ruin it for all of us... the ban of tripods is a major threat to the quality of images we create in the evening hours. Saying that though, I NEVER let my tripod interfere with another guest. I prefer to find views that are out of the way or just a different perspective.

 

[NowInc]

people who set up camp will ruin it for all of us... the ban of tripods is a major threat to the quality of images we create in the evening hours. Saying that though, I NEVER let my tripod interfere with another guest. I prefer to find views that are out of the way or just a different perspective.

Thats how I see it. I also never ever let a tripod be an obstruction..but you know..we're a minority. Having seen it myself MANY times, I can say that most people with tripods (most of which are using them with point and shoots!), have no regard for anyone or anything around them and cause headaches for other park goers.

 

[ddbowdoin]

Thats how I see it. I also never ever let a tripod be an obstruction..but you know..we're a minority. Having seen it myself MANY times, I can say that most people with tripods (most of which are using them with point and shoots!), have no regard for anyone or anything around them and cause headaches for other park goers.

:brick::brick::brick::brick:

unfortunately yes

 

[flynnibus]

I can say that most people with tripods (most of which are using them with point and shoots!), have no regard for anyone or anything around them and cause headaches for other park goers.

Ehh... non-SLR cameras have to deal with shuttle speed too. You don't need a big honkin camera body to have manual controls.

 

[ddbowdoin]

Ehh... non-SLR cameras have to deal with shuttle speed too. You don't need a big honkin camera body to have manual controls.

as I've said before... unless you have a Leica in your bag

quality > size

DLSR sensor > PS sensor

 

[flynnibus]

as I've said before... unless you have a Leica in your bag

quality > size

DLSR sensor > PS sensor

So what - it doesn't make a tripod useless for cameras less then a SLR. Sensor quality has nothing to do with the need/use of a tripod.

Get over your camera ego.

 

[maxairmike]

I've never had an issue with my camera or tripod, even during busy times getting night shots, including Wishes. I generally try to make my tripod as "small" horizontally as possible as well as my entire "photo space" by keeping my camera bag inside the tripod legs. Now Universal on the other hand...really, you have to go through their marketing/PR dept. and have someone escort you with a press pass if you want to use a tripod (didn't have an issue until I got to CityWalk after the parks, which really irked me); but that's another time and another thread...

Going to DAK tonight for some shots, so hopefully I didn't just jinx myself. :lol:

 

[ddbowdoin]

So what - it doesn't make a tripod useless for cameras less then a SLR. Sensor quality has nothing to do with the need/use of a tripod.

Get over your camera ego.

no, it doesn't... it does however effect the overall quality of your images.

A PS on a tripod is an oxymoron, if you wanted the best you'd buy the best.... that's the problem when we went digital. We started creating different sized sensors and sensors of variable quality. It creates a anti-democratic aspect to the art.

Film was the complete opposite... 35mm is beautiful, 120 even better. It was really hard to pick an image that came from a 100 dollar film camera and the best Leica. In the digital world, that isn't the case....

So no ego, just knowledge.

Sorry

 

[bethymouse]

Guess they don't want people w/ tripods because they want us to buy into the photopasses! I mean they do take great pics, but it is just too darn expensive!

 

[flynnibus]

no, it doesn't... it does however effect the overall quality of your images.

A PS on a tripod is an oxymoron, if you wanted the best you'd buy the best....

What trip are you on? Using a trip isn't about 'getting the best' or anything like that. Using a tripod isn't about quality - it's about the type of shot you are trying to take. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

Tripod is about stability and longer shutter - which is available on every camera with manual controls.. even mirrorless small sensor digital cameras.

Stop looking at people using tripod as posers and accept stable platforms make sense for film, digital, miror, mirrorless, or whatever the camera type.

My god.. you sound like the type that make an opinion of someone based on the brand they carry.

 

[ddbowdoin]

What trip are you on? Using a trip isn't about 'getting the best' or anything like that. Using a tripod isn't about quality - it's about the type of shot you are trying to take. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

Tripod is about stability and longer shutter - which is available on every camera with manual controls.. even mirrorless small sensor digital cameras.

Stop looking at people using tripod as posers and accept stable platforms make sense for film, digital, miror, mirrorless, or whatever the camera type.

My god.. you sound like the type that make an opinion of someone based on the brand they carry.

Lol... This is slightly comical. Thanks for letting me know what the use of a tripod is for.

I was simply alluding to the fact that the image of a point and shoot on a tripod is humorous.

If you're in the camp that is going to try and argue that image quality is comparable among camera types this conversation just needs to end as its borderline illogical.

 

[maxairmike]

Guess they don't want people w/ tripods because they want us to buy into the photopasses! I mean they do take great pics, but it is just too darn expensive!

Ehhh...gotta disagree with you on that. There's a reason I've never gotten a single PhotoPass photo; I get better (at worst the same) results setting the camera myself and handing it to my mom or another guest. The only time Photopass has an advantage over everyone else is at night, and even then I've never liked their pictures. Maybe I've just had bad luck and gotten all the bad Photopass people. :shrug:

 

[ddbowdoin]

Ehhh...gotta disagree with you on that. There's a reason I've never gotten a single PhotoPass photo; I get better (at worst the same) results setting the camera myself and handing it to my mom or another guest. The only time Photopass has an advantage over everyone else is at night, and even then I've never liked their pictures. Maybe I've just had bad luck and gotten all the bad Photopass people. :shrug:

100% agree

 

[flynnibus]

Lol... This is slightly comical. Thanks for letting me know what the use of a tripod is for.

I was simply alluding to the fact that the image of a point and shoot on a tripod is humorous.

If you're in the camp that is going to try and argue that image quality is comparable among camera types this conversation just needs to end as its borderline illogical.

When did I ever say anything about image quality? And for the what.. 4th time.. does that have to do with using a tripod at all?

Try going back through the posts - you don't seem to get it.

 

[G00fyDad]

When did I ever say anything about image quality? And for the what.. 4th time.. does that have to do with using a tripod at all?

Try going back through the posts - you don't seem to get it.

You have to remember, to a photographer this is sensitive area. You and ddbowdoin are obviously not going to see eye to eye on this. I agree with both of you.

ddbowdoin, true, a tripod does nothing for image quality on a PaS unless you have some issue with your hands shaking uncontrollably.

Flynnibus, true, a tripod is a useful tool regardless of camera. I use one on my trips as well. I attach my crappy PaS to the tripod for parades and fireworks to take video while I use my better PaS to take photos by hand. I also use my tripod for group shots that I want to be in and various other reasons.

I think there is just a miscommunication between you two. :wave:

 

[CP_alum08]

When did I ever say anything about image quality? And for the what.. 4th time.. does that have to do with using a tripod at all?

Try going back through the posts - you don't seem to get it.

Sadly, there is no use arguing with this guy.

"if you wanted the best, you'd buy the best" :ROFLOL::ROFLOL:

I agree with you 100% by the way. There is some sanity left on the internet yet.

 

[ddbowdoin]

Sadly, there is no use arguing with this guy.

"if you wanted the best, you'd buy the best" :ROFLOL::ROFLOL:

I agree with you 100% by the way. There is some sanity left on the internet yet.

There is no argument here...

Yes, I agree 100% on the function and practicality of a tripod.

I was simply poking fun at, as another member here poked fun as well... was someone having a PaS strapped to a tripod.

Yes, the tripod will help you avoid any image blur from a show shutter speed but you're still producing an image from a PaS. Again, as alluded by myself and others, this is an oxymoron. It's like having a spoiler on a Corolla.

"if you wanted the best, you'd buy the best"... yes, because the strongest images in the world are being created on Canon S95's :brick::brick::brick:

 

[G00fyDad]

It's like having a spoiler on a Corolla.

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL: That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Thanks. :ROFLOL::ROFLOL:

 

[flynnibus]

Yes, the tripod will help you avoid any image blur from a show shutter speed but you're still producing an image from a PaS. Again, as alluded by myself and others, this is an oxymoron. It's like having a spoiler on a Corolla.

What a camera snob... how do you manage to get through the day without having your head explode from people taking photos with.. OMG... camera phones!!

You don't use a bazooka to kill a fly. And yes there is practical purposes for using something less than optimal quality. It's not an oxymoron to use the right tool for the right job. Need a stable camera base.. use a tripod. Or are you going to suggest 'need a stable base.. buy a full frame camera and a tripod... so the camera snobs will accept you'.

Or should we be making fun of you for taking photos without full lighting rigs? I mean.. taking photos with a full frame senor camera without the right tools is like driving a ferrari off-road.

 

[ddbowdoin]

What a camera snob... how do you manage to get through the day without having your head explode from people taking photos with.. OMG... camera phones!!

You don't use a bazooka to kill a fly. And yes there is practical purposes for using something less than optimal quality. It's not an oxymoron to use the right tool for the right job. Need a stable camera base.. use a tripod. Or are you going to suggest 'need a stable base.. buy a full frame camera and a tripod... so the camera snobs will accept you'.

Or should we be making fun of you for taking photos without full lighting rigs? I mean.. taking photos with a full frame senor camera without the right tools is like driving a ferrari off-road.

Resorting to name calling... yes, classy.

As for the notion of snobbery, it couldn't be any further from that. I'm stating a fact, over and over again. Image quality from any point and shoot camera cannot compare in image quality due to the mere reality of the difference in sensors used. It's not that difficult to comprehend. Yes, I apologize for making wise cracks about PaS and tripods... that's just something photographers do and will pretty much always do.

It's not about fitting in or joining a club. If I were doing that, I'd be mocking everyone on here because you shoot digital and pure image making can only be done using a mechanical instrument such as a film Leica rangefinder, or a large format 4X5. That is snobbery, not someone telling you that your camera in inferior due to technological differences... I mean, that is pretty clean and cut.

At the end of the day it's your image making process, own it and be happy with it... but if someone comes around here and reads this section of WDW I hate seeing people being given dishonest advise. People come here for information and advise, and being fed the old "no need to get that fancy DSLR because this (x) camera does the same" isn't true and could lead to people wasting money on gear with false expectations.

I hate people being fed the ol' Best Buy sales pitch on cameras.