Disney Ruining Disneyland?

Nicole220

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No, not bad at all. All that hype (OMG they're ruining DL!) for nothing, really. They blend in well, especially the Lion King ones. It took me a while to find them.

edit: The only ones I don't care for are Stitch (way too big), and Cinderella and Prince Charming.
 

mharrington

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You know, I have an idea of where the rainforest can go, should the park actually go through with its plan to remove it from its current location: in the tunnel area between the South America and Oceania scenes. Of course, the tunnel would have to be removed and the walls widened, but the rainforest scene, placed here, would make a good bridge between the two scenes.
 

nemofinder22

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A response from Marty Sklar-
April 4, 2008) A local newspaper reporter got it right when she wrote that, after we updated Pirates of the Caribbean last year, “many fans grudgingly acknowledged that… the additions may make the ride more appealing to young park goers." Now, based purely on rumors that are mostly inaccurate, we are being criticized for touching another one of Walt Disney’s “classics.”

Read the whole thing- http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10029590.asp
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
A response from Marty Sklar-


Read the whole thing- http://www.laughingplace.com/News-ID10029590.asp
Thank you for posting that! It's something that several here need to read AND understand.

Marty Skylar said:
Between Tony [Baxter], our chief designer Kim Irvine, and me, we represent 128 years creating Disney park entertainment and fun for literally billions of guests around the world. We are not “young marketing whizzes” trying to make a name for ourselves. We were fortunate to have trained, and worked with, all of Walt’s original Imagineers.

He could have easily replaced "young marketing whizzes" with "internet fanboys that have zero real world experience" and it would be all the more true.
 

Erika

Moderator
Very interesting! I'm a bit disappointed to have missed the original (before learning of the rehab we had wanted to go this spring) but :shrug: that's not Disney's fault :lol:

Now matter how minuscule the changes are they are bound to be polarizing. Can't wait to check it out for myself.
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
Thank you for posting that! It's something that several here need to read AND understand.



He could have easily replaced "young marketing whizzes" with "internet fanboys that have zero real world experience" and it would be all the more true.

And your real world experience that makes you entitled to make that statement would be...?
 

dxwwf3

Well-Known Member
I really don't think comparing POTC changes to the proposed IASW changes is a fair comparison. The people against the POTC changes was a very small percentage among the internet fan community. No matter how much some would want to believe otherwise, most people were in favor of the changes there. They fit the attraction. They changed VERY little about the tone of the attraction. People expected to see something from the film in the attraction after the huge success of the film. It makes sense.

People are not calling for characters to be added to IASW. I guarantee very few people walk off of IASW and say "That was nice, but where were the Disney characters?" :lol:. Disney is doing this mainly because of merchandise and it's hard to convince me otherwise. Is that the worst thing in the world? No, but it is what it is.

From what I've seen, I doubt these characters are going to ruin the attraction. I still think they are not needed, but this probably won't be a big mistake. FOR ME, I hate the principles behind this more than anything. We're almost to the point where Disney thinks everyone expects to see well known characters at every turn in the parks. The majority of the general public might think so, but not everyone. Luckily there have been a few new things around the parks that have been completely original to the parks. And hopefully all originality isn't dead.

I think one thing Disney needs to remember: Look at the Tiki Rooms at the two US Parks. Which one is more popular right now, as far as crowds go? Different parks do have different audiences, I realize. But the Disneyland version is unquestionably more popular right now and it was one of the highlights of my trip to DL this past summer. Kids enjoyed it a ton and so did adults. I saw it twice and it was packed both times. There is more than one way to attract crowds.
 

dxwwf3

Well-Known Member
Another thing I forgot to mention was that I could see them doing this at WDW a lot more than I could at Disneyland. Their Fantasyland is remarkable and has many more character based attractions. Our Fantasyland isn't in the same league and could use the "help" (;)) more. I know that our IASW just had an extensive refurbishment, but it doesn't seem to be as popular as it is on the west coast.

So I would have thought they would have tested this out at the MK, where less is considered sacred, to test audience response. Then if it was a welcome addition for most guests, then they could put it in at DL.
 

dxwwf3

Well-Known Member
Re-Imagineering has a new post with some quotes from the "world of animation". I have stated that I don't these changes are going to be the end of the world, but I still wish they wouldn't happen. And I do respect Marty's comments as well, but some of these have some good points as well.

http://imagineerebirth.blogspot.com/2008/04/world-of-animation-speaks.html

The one that takes the cake for me comes from Tia Kratter, Art Director:

"Let's keep the original integrity of It's a Small World. It's refreshing to have rides that don't always pay homage to the Disney characters. It gives Disneyland greater breadth and richness."
Couldn't have said it better myself :sohappy:
 

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