News Disney Riviera Resort announced

[seascape]

Not sure if the rooms being added at Coronado will be priced to "replace" the rooms that have been lost at CBR, when the PR release only mentions "suites and concierge-level services". I'd guess at least half of the tower rooms will be standard rooms, but the higher rooms will likely be more expensive.

The prices at most rooms will go up quite a bit in 2019 because of SW:GE.

 

[HauntedPirate]

The prices at most rooms will go up quite a bit in 2019 because of SW:GE.

Oh, most definitely. They've already been increasing room rates at a healthy clip ($120/night at All-Star Music, or $250/night at Riverside in early September, anyone?), including raising room rates by $13/$19/$23 per night recently.

 

[GoofGoof]

Not sure if the rooms being added at Coronado will be priced to "replace" the rooms that have been lost at CBR, when the PR release only mentions "suites and concierge-level services". I'd guess at least half of the tower rooms will be standard rooms, but the higher rooms will likely be more expensive.

With the skyliner connected to CBR and SW opening soon I would expect to see the CBR prices go up more than average. I think Coronado was already a notch above the other moderates and had the built in convention visitors already so I wouldn’t be surprised to see an overall price increase there too. There was some speculation a while back that they would be doing away with the value/moderate/deluxe designations and the prices would more reflect amenities, location and also transportation.

What I think they really need is a whole new moderate priced resort. They have added value and deluxe/DVC more recently but it’s been over 20 years since Coronado opened.

 

[HauntedPirate]

With the skyliner connected to CBR and SW opening soon I would expect to see the CBR prices go up more than average. I think Coronado was already a notch above the other moderates and had the built in convention visitors already so I wouldn’t be surprised to see an overall price increase there too. There was some speculation a while back that they would be doing away with the value/moderate/deluxe designations and the prices would more reflect amenities, location and also transportation.

What I think they really need is a whole new moderate priced resort. They have added value and deluxe/DVC more recently but it’s been over 20 years since Coronado opened.

Resort pricing is going to be all about location, location, location:

Close to a theme park =
A little further away from a theme park and connected via direct transportation (read: Skyliner) =
Glorified Motel 6 (aka. All-Stars) with theming =

Basically, just about every resort will be thought of as a "[Theme park]-area resort", and priced accordingly. If you thought room prices were high before, just wait a year.

 

[GoofGoof]

Resort pricing is going to be all about location, location, location:

Close to a theme park =
A little further away from a theme park and connected via direct transportation (read: Skyliner) =
Glorified Motel 6 (aka. All-Stars) with theming =

Basically, just about every resort will be thought of as a "[Theme park]-area resort", and priced accordingly. If you thought room prices were high before, just wait a year.

If they go up enough that $200 direct DVC price may actually start to be a good deal again

 

[GoofGoof]

My story is pretty similar. I had been to Disney when I was a pre teen when it first open but back then, I don't think we even entertained staying "onsite", there was only I think the Contemporary and the Poly.

When I returned for the first visit with my family we stayed at the cabins at Ft Wilderness. Love at first sight. we enjoyed the extra space, the full kitchen and the deck with a grill. It definitely made travelling with 3 small kids really nice. We joined dvc in 2001, before 9/11 so I don't think Disney had all the discounts they have now but we knew immediately that we always wanted a full kitchen when we came so going DVC was perfect. At the time they were pre selling the Beach club, my coworker had just purchased at the Boardwalk (also direct) so we crunched the numbers and purchased.

For us it was not about the "deals". we knew that if we wanted to save money there were more economical ways to go to Disney. for us it was strickly about the ability to travel annually and stay like we wanted to. lol, once my late husband walked out the back of the resort right to Epcot it was game over.

Now looking back I can see the cost savings, last year I took maybe 9 family members, would I have done that out of pocket? this year I've got 3 trips on tap. first one is with my friends of 35 years. 4 of us staying in a 2 bedroom at Kidandi village, then in August it's a trip with the minions (5, 20 somethings, may God have mercy on my soul). lol

But I will say I have on many occasions and will probably do so again, made purchases that were probably not the most economical way to go. Not every aspect of my life is governed by the bottom line.

2 weeks to go!! doing happy snoppy dance.

You bring up a good point on the difference between Villas and Studios. If you want a room with a full kitchen on Disney property your only viable option is owning DVC (or maybe renting points each year, but in the long run owning is still probably better). Most analysis people post here is comparing a studio hotel room to a studio DVC room. I have so far used my points on Villas only. Once you have all that space it’s hard to go back.

 

[Biff215]

Everyone is certainly entitled to purchase at today’s prices, but I hope DVC no longer markets itself as a way to save money as they once did. As others have pointed out, it really depends on your vacation habits. We used to go twice a year (now once) and always stay deluxe. With 175 points at $86/point, I’d argue I’m saving money even with annual dues factored in. I don’t know how that would be remotely possible at $200, but to each their own.

It’s a shame that today you have to buy direct to get perks and discounts that used to be available with resales as well (rightfully so IMO). It’s really the only way Disney can charge what they do, so I understand why they did it. Personally I still wouldn’t buy direct for that reason alone.

We haven’t had a problem staying where we want (BC and Poly mostly) with the SSR points, but I do see it getting tougher. If we end up stuck with SSR and OKW at 7 months, that’s when I’ll be ready to sell.

Not really interested in Riviera as of now, but I’m sure plenty will be. Will be interesting to watch with it being the first since SSR not attached to a deluxe.

 

[MisterPenguin]

More aerials from @bioreconstruct.

 

[cjkeating]

This looks a lot less intrusive than the Coronado tower.

 

[Biff215]

This looks a lot less intrusive than the Coronado tower.

I think I agree, solely based on pictures. Keep in mind the Riviera is considered a separate resort from CBR, so this makes sense. I still don't like either of these towers where they're being built, but it is what it is.

 

[GoofGoof]

Once they put in the tropical decore and pool area I think it will blend pretty well. It’s not uncommon to be on a beach in the Caribbean and see the next resort over.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Soon....

It will be glorious...

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[NiarrNDisney]

Soon....

I didn't realize it would be visible from the park! I hope they will do something to help it blend in like they did with the Hollywood Tower Hotel and Morocco.

 

[nicb88]

Am I right in thinking that Riviera is pretty much as high as it’s going to get?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Am I right in thinking that Riviera is pretty much as high as it’s going to get?

Yes... they are done with guest room floors if the artist's conception is correct. However, there may be one more floor for the top-of-tower restaurant if it's not already built into the top floor.

 

[Horizons1]

Soon....

Poor Epcot.

 

[disneyC97]

I think this will be slightly visible from only certain vantage points. Some of the hotel plaza hotels have been similarly visible since day one. Different than how the Swan and Dolphin dominate certain vistas.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I think this will be slightly visible from only certain vantage points. Some of the hotel plaza hotels have been similarly visible since day one. Different then how the Swan and Dolphin dominate certain vistas.

Not only that, but a telephoto lens from across the lake completely takes out any depth perception. One can not judge how it will look from pictures.

Telephoto shots of the Swan behind France makes it look like the Swan was built directly behind France, and not 2,000 feet away. The distance between Germany and Riviera is 1,400 feet. And photos where you can see ToT behind Morrocco has a 3,800 ft distance.

 

[GoofGoof]

Not only that, but a telephoto lens from across the lake completely takes out any depth perception. One can not judge how it will look from pictures.

Telephoto shots of the Swan behind France makes it look like the Swan was built directly behind France, and not 2,000 feet away. The distance between Germany and Riviera is 1,400 feet. And photos where you can see ToT behind Morrocco has a 3,800 ft distance.

They just need some miracle grow to get those trees by Germany to grow a little taller

 

[RSoxNo1]

Not only that, but a telephoto lens from across the lake completely takes out any depth perception. One can not judge how it will look from pictures.

Telephoto shots of the Swan behind France makes it look like the Swan was built directly behind France, and not 2,000 feet away. The distance between Germany and Riviera is 1,400 feet. And photos where you can see ToT behind Morrocco has a 3,800 ft distance.

Excellent points.