News Disney removing plastic straws and more by mid-2019

s8film40

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I am pretty sure most people at one point or another have tried soda without ice. Most places are self serve here. It is not that we don't know any better, it is just that most people PREFER it with the ice. Sorry to say that you are in the minority here.
Yeah most people prefer plastic straws too, doesn't mean people can't try something out for a while and realize it's not too big of a change after all. Most people consume bottled drinks at around the same temperature as fountain and seem to get by.
 

jaklgreen

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Yeah most people prefer plastic straws too, doesn't mean people can't try something out for a while and realize it's not too big of a change after all. Most people consume bottled drinks at around the same temperature as fountain and seem to get by.

You seem to be a bit obsessed with getting people to drink their soda without ice.
 
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s8film40

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At theme parks in Florida probably...10 months out of the year, a soda w no ice is going to be room temp in a short amount of time. Part of the reasoning for a beverage there is to cool off a little.

I get some people are used to no ice though- when I worked at Busch Gardens and a UK or Brazilian came up to me ordering a drink I tended to assume they did not want ice. Oh well. Unless WDW is keeping the sodas at a colder temp as well as selling me a refillable Yeti-like thermos to keep the drink cold, I'd pass on that 1.
Honestly I drink no ice all the time and I prefer my drinks in the upper 30's. In my experience it takes a while for them to get warm and of course by that point the ice would've melted anyway. To me watered down soda is definitely more gross than warm soda, but that's just my preference. Also they sell bottled sodas out of carts in the hot parks, same thing.
 

s8film40

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You seemed to be a bit obsessed with getting people to drink their soda without ice.
No, I'm just continuously impressed by how obsessed most people are about having ice in their drinks. I'm a big believer in "I'll have mine my way and you can have yours your way" that being said I think WDW's straw ban is a little over the top. They could've easily just made them a little less readily available. For me though because of my preference it doesn't matter at all. I'm just pointing out for those that have a problem with paper straws, just give it a try without ice, it's really not that bad.
 

Daveeeeed

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Personally, I want them to keep putting water bottle filling stations all over. I’ll gladly pay 15 bucks for a Disney decorated Nalgene bottle over a couple Dasanis any day.

What I’m saying is an EPCOT Center nalgene is my kyptonite.
At Tokyo Disneyland there are water stations and paper cups for free. That would be a welcome change in the States.:)
 

s8film40

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A bottle (or can) is providing some insulation from heat that a paper cup isn't though. Sit a can, bottle and cup side by side outside for 5 min and measure temps and I'd be willing to bet ($3 whole dollars!) the cup was warmer. Not saying the bottle would still be high 30's or anything but I'd take an educated guess its cooler.

I agree w you though on the fountain drink where the ice gets all melted and waters it down, but, I'd be willing to guess, as I have had fountain soda w no ice before, that by that time my drink would be room temp anyway and I'd likely toss it either way.

Refillable mugs with a reusable straw, with Coke Freestyle machines set up everywhere (like Universal) seems to be the best compromise to me. Let people get what ice they want, and not go thru 8 straws in a day (just please God, don't put a 10 or 80 year old in front of me on 1 of those machines. You are lucky to get your drink in the next hour while little BraxLeigh goes thru every flavor on the machine...twice)
Yeah I agree freestyle machines are the best! Also, yeah I've been behind some slow people. Once I stood behind someone who kept rechecking her cup waiting for the minutes to go down before she could refill.
Again, most of us have tried the paper straws, hence the strong reaction.
Yeah "strong reaction" is definitely the right way to put it! I only made a few small comments about it and everyone is desperately trying to prove to me that drinking soda without ice is impossible, wrong and should never be attempted.:D
 

Lensman

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Honestly I drink no ice all the time and I prefer my drinks in the upper 30's. In my experience it takes a while for them to get warm and of course by that point the ice would've melted anyway. To me watered down soda is definitely more gross than warm soda, but that's just my preference. Also they sell bottled sodas out of carts in the hot parks, same thing.
Tomayto tomahto. There's no point arguing the merits of icing one's drinks - though people inevitably do.

I'd like to anoint myself squarely in the middle ground, as I sometimes have my soda at 37 F, no ice, and sometimes at 32 F with ice. I even have a bunch of those reusable [mickey] ice cubes to keep my drinks from getting watered down when I use ice.

No, I'm just continuously impressed by how obsessed most people are about having ice in their drinks.
I don't think anyone in the U.S. who prefers their fountain drinks with ice is "obsessed" at all since they represent 99% of people and probably 99.9% of those who grew up here. The numbers are probably even higher in the areas with hotter climates like Florida and the South.

Now the people who insist on having pebble ice in their homes are obsessed - though no more so than anyone else who has a fine appreciation for detail other areas like sightlines in WDW.

Now water with ice vs no ice is probably a lower percentage, especially with the recent bias towards bottled water.
 
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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
I admit that I overstate. I thought the contrast in mentality demonstrated by the funny video from Mad Men would make you laugh, but apparently I was too hopeful that this board is a place for humor and fun while discussing serious topics.

Littering is down 60% since 1969 despite a 50% growth in population and what I'd consider big growth in disposable products. But that's probably an optimistic view that few here will share. Instead, I suppose the prolific contrarians here will insist that people are hopelessly self-centered and selfish and that there's nothing that we can do to stop the decline in the quality of life on this planet so we may as well give up now and all kill ourselves even more quickly by smoking and bathing in dioxins.

Thanks for your encouragement.

Oh, and to show that I haven't totally lost my sense of humor, here's a picture demonstrating that there's been *some* progress on littering. This person obviously isn't throwing their trash out the window of their car - at least not immediately. :)
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Well, I'm sure you have no idea who "this person" is, right? ;) (wink, wink...)
 

GoofGoof

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Does Disney serve their fountain soda at greater than 40 F? We need @The Mom to do some thermal research for us at the parks!

Also, are you saying that in general, modern soda fountains are dispensing beverage at greater than 40 F or are you saying that in general, bottled sodas are sold at significantly less than 40 F? 40F is also standard refrigeration temperature. My fridge is set to 37 F.

I found a Subway manual that states that the standard temperature for drinks dispensed by their fountains is less than 40 F. Page 7 says that fountain drinks dispensed at greater than 40 F have a tendency to taste flat since the higher dispensing temperature will drive out too much of the CO2. Note that it also calls for the cup to be exactly 1/3 ice for proper "ice dilution", so you're spot on that point.
I have no idea what temperature the soda is kept at. I assume the bottles kept in a bin of ice and water are pretty close to 32 degrees unless you pull one that just got put in which does happen especially on busy days.
 

s8film40

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I have no idea what temperature the soda is kept at. I assume the bottles kept in a bin of ice and water are pretty close to 32 degrees unless you pull one that just got put in which does happen especially on busy days.
Bottled soda has always seemed slightly warmer than fountain with no ice to me. Of course that varies and there are occasional exceptions. Just my observation, I’m not carrying a thermometer around or anything.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Bottled soda has always seemed slightly warmer than fountain with no ice to me. Of course that varies and there are occasional exceptions. Just my observation, I’m not carrying a thermometer around or anything.
Unless, of course, the bottled soda is at that rare, exact temperature where the pressure release upon opening drops the temperature just enough to freeze some of the water in the bottle, giving you those few sublime moments of slushy, bottled bliss...
 

21stamps

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Just wanted to put this here..

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Real Madrid has revealed its new third kit for the 2018/19 season — and it’s made entirely from ocean plastic waste.

The pink strip was designed by Parley Ocean Plastic in collaboration with Adidas, and imitates the colour of different types of coral under threat from plastic pollution.


However, the replicas are still the normal polyester. Either way, I think it’s a nice thing to do.
https://m.adidas.com/us/parley
 
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ABQ

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Just wanted to put this here..

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Real Madrid has revealed its new third kit for the 2018/19 season — and it’s made entirely from ocean plastic waste.

The pink strip was designed by Parley Ocean Plastic in collaboration with Adidas, and imitates the colour of different types of coral under threat from plastic pollution.


However, the replicas are still the normal polyester. Either way, I think it’s a nice thing to do.
https://m.adidas.com/us/parley
The MLS did the same last year, granted the Real Madrid exposure is countless times larger than any particular MLS team's. But i'm skeptical on the "made entirely from ocean plastic" claim Gareth Bale is making, only because when the MLS unveiled their uniforms last April, only a vague "Each product is crafted using Parley Ocean Plastic™ upcycled from plastic waste intercepted on beaches and in coastal communities. " statement was made. Whether that is 10% or 100% makes me wonder. Any amount is better than none, but I'd like to know for curiosities sake.
 

21stamps

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The MLS did the same last year, granted the Real Madrid exposure is countless times larger than any particular MLS team's. But i'm skeptical on the "made entirely from ocean plastic" claim Gareth Bale is making, only because when the MLS unveiled their uniforms last April, only a vague "Each product is crafted using Parley Ocean Plastic™ upcycled from plastic waste intercepted on beaches and in coastal communities. " statement was made. Whether that is 10% or 100% makes me wonder. Any amount is better than none, but I'd like to know for curiosities sake.

I admit that I don’t follow the MLS, but I will next year now that my team is joining!! :)

I have to make a correction to my previous post, I don’t know if the Real Madrid site was wrong, or if my eyes were wrong.. but the Adidas site does list the replica jerseys at “100% recycled polyester interlock”


However, when I pay the extra stupid $30 to add the name.. I doubt the letters will be made from recycled materials. ;)

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tissandtully

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So when I opened Islands of Adventure, Universal thought it was a good idea to go without lids for drinks as a cost-saving measure, and I'm sure some excuse about the environment too. Didn't end up being a big deal, but they brought lids back a few years later.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Just wanted to put this here..

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Real Madrid has revealed its new third kit for the 2018/19 season — and it’s made entirely from ocean plastic waste.

The pink strip was designed by Parley Ocean Plastic in collaboration with Adidas, and imitates the colour of different types of coral under threat from plastic pollution.


However, the replicas are still the normal polyester. Either way, I think it’s a nice thing to do.
https://m.adidas.com/us/parley
Maybe Disney can make shirts out of the leftover plastic straws...another way to profit from this evil plan ;)
 

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