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Disney pools to be locked/ inaccessible in the overnight hours
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daisyduckie
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The fridges were already standard amenities, just not at the value resorts. But I agree, Disney isn't going to fork over this money without finding a way to make us all pay for it.
ToTBellHop
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I would imagine the number of toddlers in the kiddie pool at midnight is quite low.
draybook
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Wow, I only made it to the second page before I had to stop reading.
People are getting upset about gates being put around the pools because a "stupid" kid died right in front of his parents. Man, some of you people have your priorities really messed up. This was somebody's kid and he died right in front of his family. I'm really sorry that it's going to hurt your eyes so bad to look at a gate while this family has to visit their child at a cemetery......
People are getting upset about gates being put around the pools because a "stupid" kid died right in front of his parents. Man, some of you people have your priorities really messed up. This was somebody's kid and he died right in front of his family. I'm really sorry that it's going to hurt your eyes so bad to look at a gate while this family has to visit their child at a cemetery......
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Your empathy should be commended...
may I also point out:
- In 2004, there were 3,308 unintentional drownings in the United States, an average of nine people per day.(CDC 2006)
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
- In 2004, of all children 1-4 years old who died, 26% died from drowning (CDC 2006). Fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death for children ages 1 to 14 years (CDC 2005)
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - It is estimated that for each drowning death, there are 1 to 4 nonfatal submersions serious enough to result in hospitalization. Children who still require cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) at the time they arrive at the emergency department have a poor prognosis, with at least half of survivors suffering significant neurologic impairment.
American Academy of Pediatrics
- 19% of drowning deaths involving children occur in public pools with certified lifeguards present.
Drowning Prevention Foundation - A swimming pool is 14 times more likely than a motor vehicle to be involved in the death of a child age 4 and under.
Orange County California Fire Authority - Children under five and adolescents between the ages of 15-24 have the highest drowning rates.
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention - An estimated 5,000 children ages 14 and under are hospitalized due to unintentional drowning-related incidents each year; 15 percent die in the hospital and as many as 20 percent suffer severe, permanent neurological disability.
National Safety Council - Of all preschoolers who drown, 70 percent are in the care of one or both parents at the time of the drowning and 75 percent are missing from sight for five minutes or less.
Orange County, CA, Fire Authority - The majority of children who survive (92 percent) are discovered within two minutes following submersion, and most children who die (86 percent) are found after 10 minutes. Nearly all who require cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) die or are left with severe brain injury.
National Safe Kids Campaign
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draybook
Well-Known Member
I guess I'm just partial to it because I have almost drowned twice in my life......once when I was 12(Newport Beach) and again when I was 19(TN).
Point being, someone lost their kid and all some people here can think about is how the gate will somehow interfere with their vacation.....
Point being, someone lost their kid and all some people here can think about is how the gate will somehow interfere with their vacation.....
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I had a close call myself when I was about 9....I went on to become a very good swimmer and even a lifeguard later on.
I agree that some people take things a little far but that's kind of par for the course on a discussion board. (We've had our disagreements as well.)
In this litigious society that we live in, it's surprising that Disney doesn't make everyone sign a waiver when they check in, because as the stats show just because a lifeguard is present will not prevent a drowning. Parents need to be EVER diligent when it comes to their children's safety around water.
Polydweller
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Would make sense except it doesn't at all because Disney is a union shop and the lifeguards are part of that. Working two shifts of 8 hours (7-3, 3-11) is easy to do. Now try doing that making it an 18 hr day. That isn't simple at all. I don't know them but its a very safe bet there are lots of negotiated rules about scheduling that would have to be met. So, I'd say what you need to do is find out what those union negotiated rules are, what the costs would be for overtime shifts, extra staff, short shifts (what is the minimum work shift allowed and the maximum), the number of extra staff required across all pools (at least 14 pools maybe more) before coming to a definitive figure like you have. Having had to schedule staff under union rules I'm willing to bet it isn't easy and not cheap to do it. And, of course, contrast that to the cost of the fencing.
Oh, if things were as easy as people think.
Polydweller
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Me twice, once when I was six, and one when I was 8. Very close both times. I definitely agree with you draybook, a gate and a fence won't interfere with anyone's vacation.
jkl2000
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Yeah, but I might use it!
Bairstow
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If Disney is going to enforce an 11pm shutdown time for all their primary pools, I think it's crystal clear how this will interfere with people's vacations.
The fences they'll have to build are incidental.
draybook
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Ok, and I'd love to see a poll of how many people actually use the pools after 11pm. I know that in my 4 stays on site I can count that number on two hands if that. That was including 2 stays at Pop and 2 at POFQ.
jkl2000
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Yes, people will "only" be able to swim in the main pools for 15 hours per day.
Bairstow
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awoogala
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because "quiet " pools are supposed to be adult pools, they assume everyone there will be a respectful adult, who will (hopefully) not be at risk for drowning/noisiness/etc.? All that will happen, though, is that all the parents who don't care if their kids are loud, or swimming dangerously, or unsupervised ...will just tell them t use those quiet pools, and lose their minds if someone stops their kids..
willtravel
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According to article, it states November. Just wondered if this has happened?
Sparkle81
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When I was there between 3rd-13th Dec, the pools at Saratoga Springs Resort were still open 24 hours.
stevehousse
Well-Known Member
Maybe it depends on the resort because when I was there during November at all star movies, the pools would close at 12am with signs stating the pools were closed. Even the mighty duck "quiet pool" had the signs up...
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
The fact that only certain resorts are closed points to the fact they were closed due to guests making to much noise after hours not closing due to safety issues.