alissafalco
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How disappointing!!!
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Disney Playing catch up with Universal... Potter Disney's biggest mistake in 20 years...
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space42
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It will be a great addition if there is truly a groundbreaking, one of a kind, only Disney can build, E-Ticket. Soarin' in 3d??? To me, this has little to do with Avatar and everything to do with the scope of the headliner attraction.
Has anything changed in regards to the ideas presented in the storyboards of Avatar: World of Pandora.
At some point we just have to wait and see what happens.
From my standpoint, if Cameron signed off on this as the e-ticket attraction, then it's going to be good.
It's his reputation that is on the line.
If the land is terrible, Disney won't be blamed..it will all fall on Cameron. He knows this and he is going to make sure this world is spot on.
He past work shows this, he is a very detailed person.
He will be compared to JK Rowling and be judged by what they did at Universal.
At some point we just have to wait and see what happens.
From my standpoint, if Cameron signed off on this as the e-ticket attraction, then it's going to be good.
It's his reputation that is on the line.
If the land is terrible, Disney won't be blamed..it will all fall on Cameron. He knows this and he is going to make sure this world is spot on.
He past work shows this, he is a very detailed person.
He will be compared to JK Rowling and be judged by what they did at Universal.
Jae99
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I have to agree.
James Cameron doesn't do anything on a small scale when you look at the movies that he has produced. I can't see him doing Avatar Land on a small scale. Cameron has always used or created the newest technologies when making his films.
Lets hope he does the same thing when bringing Avatar to Animal Kingdom.
I agree with you guys...too many people assume that they wont like the land because they didn't like the movie.... if Cameron gave the ok im sure it will be good...how good we ll have to see...Pandora will be compared to WWOHP and Cars Land so we ll see if it stacks up in terms of immersiveness
in terms of merchandise can Disney and Cameron create new/quality items to be sold like universal did?
in terms of merchandise can Disney and Cameron create new/quality items to be sold like universal did?
How much did the mine train cost? By the looks of it they didn't do it on the cheap. They did shorten it but this is a ride for those at the height of 38 inches. It's a d-ticket ride. It fits fantasyland.
Avatar is going to have an e-ticket and you need to compare Disney's last e tickets for a better comparison of what Disney will do. This is also for a teen-tween market. Very different then the kiddie ride.
Also and don't forget...Cameron's name is attached and he is a detail freak. His reputation is on the line. This is his world...it isn't Disneys. It just happens to be in a Disney park.
lazyboy97o
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There was plenty of thought that Universal would get the rights and it that speculation came with the same lack of excitement.
Disneyhead'71
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Universal passed on Avatar.
kucarachi
Active Member
Good movie or not it is the highest grossing movie in the world for all time...so there are people that want to see the product. I personally am not a fan of naked blue people (Sorry smurfette)
Well...we will just have to see what happens.
I feel people are going to be surprised at this land.
I also feel if this wasn't call Avatar...people would be freaking out about this new world at Animal Kingdom. It fits perfect with the concept of this park and brings in the fantasy creatures we have all dreamed would inhabit this park when beastly kingdom was on the table. This themed area of Animal Kingdom is going to rock.
We as fans of theme parks are in for a treat. Avatar Land, Harry Potter, future Star Wars. Who cares who builds what...it's getting built. How fun is that! Theme parks are becoming just like movies studios. They are just funding other peoples imaginative ideas. Rowling, Lucas, Cameron.
Would you not see a blockbuster movie if it was distributed by someone else besides Disney or Universal?
Movie going patron: "Wow...that movie looks amazing! Who distributed it? Oh...Sony did. To heck with that, I'm not going."
I think those people who aren't excited about this land lack vision.
Movie was average, I agree. The world created was amazing. Again...if this land wasn't called Avatar...Disney fans would be freaking out of what was coming to Animal Kingdom based on these visuals.
Besides, who is to say the next movies aren't amazing. Cameron has spent a lot of time on them. Maybe...just maybe...this becomes a huge movie franchise and an amazing world to explore. Time will tell...
James Cameron's name is on the line. It's his reputation that will be damaged if this land isn't up to his standards...it will be!
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Then it was their mistake...
Univesal doesn't have Animal Kingdom, this fits perfect at this park. I'm glad Universal passed.
Maybe Universal didn't want to spend the money...they were to cheap.
Besides it wasn't Cameron who was pitching the idea....Disney called him, not the other way around.
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NoChesterHester
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Well...we will just have to see what happens.
I feel people are going to be surprised at this land.
I also feel if this wasn't call Avatar...people would be freaking out about this new world at Animal Kingdom. It fits perfect with the concept of this park and brings in the fantasy creatures we have all dreamed would inhabit this park when beastly kingdom was on the table. This themed area of Animal Kingdom is going to rock.
We as fans of theme parks are in for a treat. Avatar Land, Harry Potter, future Star Wars. Who cares who builds what...it's getting built. How fun is that! Theme parks are becoming just like movies studios. They are just funding other peoples imaginative ideas. Rowling, Lucas, Cameron.
Would you not see a blockbuster movie if it was distributed by someone else besides Disney or Universal?
Movie going patron: "Wow...that movie looks amazing! Who distributed it? Oh...Sony did. To heck with that, I'm not going."
I think those people who aren't excited about this land lack vision.
Movie was average, I agree. The world created was amazing. Again...if this land wasn't called Avatar...Disney fans would be freaking out of what was coming to Animal Kingdom based on these visuals.
Besides, who is to say the next movies aren't amazing. Cameron has spent a lot of time on them. Maybe...just maybe...this becomes a huge movie franchise and an amazing world to explore. Time will tell...
James Cameron's name is on the line. It's his reputation that will be damaged if this land isn't up to his standards...it will be!
http://www./wp-content/uploads/2013/10/avatar.jpg
That concept art is incredible. I keep seeing it said on here that Cameron's people did the art work not WDI.
I'm telling you. This is Cameron's baby. He will not let it be some half arsed could have been/should have been concept.
It is either up to his standards...or it isn't made.
That doesn't mean there isn't a budget...everything has a budget. But...Cameron has been known to go over budget on other peoples money.
DinoInstitute
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Was there any ever concept art or just info given on what would have gone into the extra dark ride scenes?
That wouldn't cut it.
A 3-4 or even 5 minute Soarin' style ride as the anchor? It'd be a good support act to the main attraction if there was one.
This land needs a true E ticket. 10-15 minutes of proper WDI storytelling. Ride system to die for. Physical space to move through. Pirates of the Caribbean in Pandoraland. Worth queuing an hour for. RSR or Mystic scale. Re ridability. Not Soarin 2.0.
It is in danger of being another FLE. Beautiful to look at but mediocre substance.
The park needs and deserves more.
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Marni...described what you know about the rides in Pandora. What will it be like to ride Soarin 2.0. What does the ride vehicle look like? How are we transported into the world?
The boat ride... How do they make it come to life, how long is it. Does it go inside and outside?
Sounds like you have seen the concept first hand and are disappointed in what James Cameron has approved of.
Whatever you saw, you feel the park deserves more. What is it you saw? What is it you didn't like?
AndyMagic
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There is no doubt in my mind that Pandora will be gorgeous and immersive. I think the main worry about the expansion is the headliner attraction. I know Cameron is almost as protective as Rowling when it comes to quality control but since his main passion is film technology he had no trouble signing off on Soarin 2.0 since it is a chance for him to showcase and produce more filmed sequences. Rowling helped make sure The Wizarding World of Harry Potter was built with almost unprecedented attention to detail but it was Universal Creative that was wholly responsible for Forbidden Journey with only minor tweaks provided by Warner and Rowling. In other words, Cameron might have the ability to maintain quality control but he can't make Disney do what they used to do and innovate by creating a truly groundbreaking main attraction.
Mike S
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I don't know about concept art for the extra dark ride scenes but I know I've seen concept art of an outdoor scene where you passed under a bridge as the Dwarfs march across but I can't seem to find it. Maybe @marni1971 can help me with this?
interesting that they did that considering how good the Terminator attraction is and that avatar was much bigger and better than Terminator
imagineer boy
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I don't think Disney missing out on the franchise is the thing to bemoan here. The fact that Universal has given Disney an a$$ whooping in terms of WWoHP's sheer quality and innovation is what really did it. Disney's idea of "innovation" these days is simply cramming pre-existing marketable characters into tired old attractions. No technological or artistic breakthroughs what so ever.